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#1
Hello guys Im 17 years old..
Im playing guitar 3 years..I teached everything myself .I never took any courses.
Now Im a intermediate player who can also do advanced stuff(sweep malmsteen etc..).
I get a lot of good comments about my fast progress from other musicians around me .I love playing it.
But lately I stucked in a rut and I cant really get out of it.I was a good improv player now jusy my mind blocked.
My licks are all sound same...What can cure it? and What caused of that?

and I want to talk about my pratice routine... I play 8 hours guitar everyday and practice 7 tecniques as I said I learned guitar myself I also learned wrong techniques I mean I was a metallica player so I played a lot of down picking stuff and I also wasnt using my pinky alot now I can...

Today my problem is I dont know what to play or what to do...I just watch videos over and over again...

I will be so glad If guys can help thanks ^^
Last edited by gtgates at Aug 10, 2012,
#3
Listen to different styles of music. Learn some songs or solos from songs that sound interesting to you.

Getting a good teacher is always a good idea.
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#4
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Listen to different styles of music. Learn some songs or solos from songs that sound interesting to you.

Getting a good teacher is always a good idea.


I also play blues I dont have a certain style..
Actually I love song that gives me chill but I dont know what to listen.Im like bored..
I listen Pantera Megadeth Avenged Sevenfold GNR and many other...

It will be cool If you guys can give some songs that might help me...

Paul Gilbert??!! ---

I will check his lesson to..
Last edited by gtgates at Aug 10, 2012,
#5
Seems to me this is more a personal issue than a technical one. From what you've written I can tell you're a really dedicated player, someone who doesn't give up before he reached his goal. While that is admirable, that's exactly where the problem lies.

In such a demanding and time-consuming area as guitar it is essential to have a correct practice schedule and a lot of patience. It is also very important to know when to pause. Stopping for a day of two every once in a while is fundamental for your muscle memory as well as your mental processing. You say you practice 8 hours a day, I say don't. You say you don't know how to progress, I say take a break.

Taking a break is one of the most difficult things a dedicated player has to face, for fear that he will lose what he had previously learned. But this is not the case, putting the guitar down for a day or two will dramatically increase your guitar-libido and your mental perception of the various techniques you've been learning.

Don't be discouraged, we all have passed through this stage at least once.
#6
Ruts happen,

Try changing up when and where you play this can really affect your mindset when you play, or like Rock said try listening to different music to try and get some inspiration.

Taking a break is always an option as well, don't stop playing completely but take some time to go hang out with some buds more often, in no time at all your going to want to run home to your guitar and want to play.
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#7
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Seems to me this is more a personal issue than a technical one. From what you've written I can tell you're a really dedicated player, someone who doesn't give up before he reached his goal. While that is admirable, that's exactly where the problem lies.

In such a demanding and time-consuming area as guitar it is essential to have a correct practice schedule and a lot of patience. It is also very important to know when to pause. Stopping for a day of two every once in a while is fundamental for your muscle memory as well as your mental processing. You say you practice 8 hours a day, I say don't. You say you don't know how to progress, I say take a break.

Taking a break is one of the most difficult things a dedicated player has to face, for fear that he will lose what he had previously learned. But this is not the case, putting the guitar down for a day or two will dramatically increase your guitar-libido and your mental perception of the various techniques you've been learning.

Don't be discouraged, we all have passed through this stage at least once.


thanks a lot man...



My problem is the future...I didnt learned a new song since May.and some how I dpnt want to learn a new song right now like I dunno Im not in mood... I dont know what can help me to progress?? and I think I will ask myself this question a lot .What my guitar level will be on future?

I dont know I should work on my techniques or theory?

I want to learn I want to practice a lot..


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thanks man
#8
I think you got burned out.


Take a week off.
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#9
and I have an other question ..everything I play turns in to an EASTERN ARABIC sound/song I can make 100 songs with them but I dont want that sound.. I want to have a more rockn roll and blues solo song

What things can I pratice?
#10
Your guitar doesn't play itself, it only does what you tell it to do.

If you want to play something else then do it, if something doesn't sound the way you wanted all you need to do is change it.
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do you write songs ?

yep but as i said i turns into a arabic song...
#13
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yep but as i said i turns into a arabic song...

and why does that happen?
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and why does that happen?

I dont know...maybe a result of overpractising I cant use my ring finger right now so im using my middle finger to much so i hit minor notes which makes some arabic turkish sound.

I was a really great blues rock player I was fast.. As i said I overpracticed this summer than a liitle injury happened I guess ...
while I was learning chromatic dimebag darrel lick
5 -7 -9
1 st finger - middle finder - little finger

you know. I I overpracticed and many other stuff same time.. I rested like a week and I felt good and I took the guitar again start to learn new things which I can use my ring and little finger..and It injured again.I have gone to doctor he said take a rest
I looked at me tecnique I didnt see something wrong...Im much better now
but every blues I play sound same..A cool lick and shxt...
Should I learn new scales?


I used my middle finger for bending a lot now Im trying to use my ring finger...

How can I warm up my ring finger for bend?

I can play a lick which uses "first-middle-little finger "fast and easly.. but when its come to "first-ring-little finger" i can go fast but more hard but my finger hurts after a while.
Last edited by gtgates at Aug 11, 2012,
#15
it's got nothing to do with scales, technique, practicing or anything else - stuff doesn't just "come out" of your guitar, it's only doing what YOU are telling it to do.

So if you want to stop hearing "arabian sounding stuff" coming out of your guitar YOU have to stop playing it.
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#16
music is not a physical affair. your fingers will not make good music without direction from your head.

it's become a trend to identify a few notes on the fretboard and just start masturbating. this isn't as common with other (read: classical) instruments because they're typically taught with sheet music that tells you far more than a tab will.

you get the tempo, the rhythm, the dynamics, the type of articulation on each note, and fair warning for when any of these aspects change. you can read a score and, for all intents and purposes, be able to understand the entire piece as if you were listening to it. most "modern" instrumentalists (read: electric bassists and guitarists) are unfortunately robbed of this experience and immersion with transcribed music.

start learning music by ear and identify each parameter of each piece you come across. write it down if it helps. transcribe it on sheet music if you can. become familiar with more than just the notes you're playing and think of what your instrument will sound like beyond the shapes and intervals you're approaching.

by focusing too heavily on the notes (which you apparently don't have a proper grasp on, either, but we'll consider shapes in this category) you completely disregard other aspects of your playing that add dimensions and textures beyond the scope of the notes coming out of your fretboard.
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#17
fpr example What scales or things I can learn to play jazz guitar?
#18
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fpr example What scales or things I can learn to play jazz guitar?

Learn some 'jazz chords' and then use them to play some jazz standards. Which you will find in a Real Book. Also, you gotta listen to a lot of jazz to play jazz.
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fpr example What scales or things I can learn to play jazz guitar?


Music =/= scales.

You have to play jazz to play jazz. And listen to jazz. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN MUSIC.

You listen, you learn. Scales won't really help.
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fpr example What scales or things I can learn to play jazz guitar?


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music is not a physical affair. your fingers will not make good music without direction from your head.

it's become a trend to identify a few notes on the fretboard and just start masturbating. this isn't as common with other (read: classical) instruments because they're typically taught with sheet music that tells you far more than a tab will.

you get the tempo, the rhythm, the dynamics, the type of articulation on each note, and fair warning for when any of these aspects change. you can read a score and, for all intents and purposes, be able to understand the entire piece as if you were listening to it. most "modern" instrumentalists (read: electric bassists and guitarists) are unfortunately robbed of this experience and immersion with transcribed music.

start learning music by ear and identify each parameter of each piece you come across. write it down if it helps. transcribe it on sheet music if you can. become familiar with more than just the notes you're playing and think of what your instrument will sound like beyond the shapes and intervals you're approaching.

by focusing too heavily on the notes (which you apparently don't have a proper grasp on, either, but we'll consider shapes in this category) you completely disregard other aspects of your playing that add dimensions and textures beyond the scope of the notes coming out of your fretboard.


it's really heartbreaking, i need to stop making long posts
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TS, use C#. The note C# will make your music better and break out of your rut and help you sound jazzy. If you get lost on what mode to use, throw in that C#. Even if you are playing in Db. That's the secret - I shouldn't let it slip, but you seem like a trustworthy enough fellow.
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and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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Last edited by Hydra150 at Aug 12, 2012,
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TS, use C#. The note C# will make your music better and break out of your rut and help you sound jazzy. If you get lost on what mode to use, throw in that C#. Even if you are playing in Db. That's the secret - I shouldn't let it slip, but you seem like a trustworthy enough fellow.

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#24
wow paul gilbert's lessons really helped me out... I want to explore guitar' neck more
#25
Play in the dark, don't look at your fretboard.

You'll hit some mistakes. They can be good things.
#26
Dude, I did a pretty extensive blog post on how to get out of guitar "ruts" and ultimately improve your playing. 50 pointers in all. I bet you'd find it helpful.

http://www.guitarchalk.com/2012/07/50-ways-to-become-better-guitar-player.html
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thanks man but my rut still on ((( i cant play fast anymore I cant feell the vibrato etc...


Don't worry about playing fast. Just hone some stuff that comes naturally to you. Playing fast is overrated in my opinion.
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#29
Take a break. You burned yourself out. It happens.

Or ignore this. Whatever.
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#30
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Take a break. You burned yourself out. It happens.

Or ignore this. Whatever.

I dont know but I cant take a break...
and I saw all these kids in Guitar Idol youtube...

I dont know which solo I should learn,which tecqnics i should practice,
#31
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I dont know but I cant take a break...

why not?
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#32
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why not?

actually the fact is I Im not playing my electric guitar since July 15 Im practising with my classical guitar which's D string just blowed up lol ..(My electric guitar's bridge damaged a lot Im still trying to get a new brigde).And My first electric guitar's neck damaged thanks to my cousin..

I totally forgot Sweep pick and Im really confused about everything
...Im trying malmsteen's licks on clasicall guitar.Every lick I want it to sound like rock cool and bluesly but It turns arabic turkish lick


I bought a Fender Stratocaster new... They posted it Probably I will have it tommorow.
#33
You are over loaded. You can't handle it now. Really, take a break. You won't forget anything, so don't worry about that. You won't lose any skill, so don't worry about that.

Take a break, in a week come back and things should be better.

Since nothing else seems to be working for you, what harm can be done in trying one more tactic?
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I can write a coherent tune ... But 3/4? I play rock, not polka.
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actually the fact is I Im not playing my electric guitar since July 15 Im practising with my classical guitar which's D string just blowed up lol ..(My electric guitar's bridge damaged a lot Im still trying to get a new brigde).And My first electric guitar's neck damaged thanks to my cousin..

I totally forgot Sweep pick and Im really confused about everything
...Im trying malmsteen's licks on clasicall guitar.Every lick I want it to sound like rock cool and bluesly but It turns arabic turkish lick


I bought a Fender Stratocaster new... They posted it Probably I will have it tommorow.

I'll say it again one more time - your guitar doesn't play itself.

The sounds that come out of it are the ones you're CHOOSING to play - if you want things to sound different....

...play something different.
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#35
Well, I get in ruts pretty often. One of the things I've found is to put it down for a while. Sometimes, I don't play for weeks or even months. Then, when I come back to it, it's like a lost friend and more often than not, all of a sudden sweet sounds start happening. I don't know why it works for me, but it usually does. Other things you can try: find peeps to play with you. If you already play with the same ones, find some others to jam with. If you always play leads, let someone else take the front, and work on your rhythym playing. Try learning some alternate tunings. They can really open up new worlds of sounds for you. Work on fingerpicking technique. Sometimes, just getting pointed in a new direction is all you need. Hope this helps. Peace.
#36
Quote by steven seagull
I'll say it again one more time - your guitar doesn't play itself.

The sounds that come out of it are the ones you're CHOOSING to play - if you want things to sound different....

...play something different.



What songs or style I should practice?
the problem is I dont know what to learn..
I use to learn songs from looking tabs and all sh.t and covered them but now.I dont know what to do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DRui95OM_c&feature=plcp
#37
Why don't you start watching Star Wars: The Next Generation (move on to DS9 [my favourite], Voy and the films if you desire) and take up cycling. Or learn to speak Portuguese.
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that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#38
Take. A. ****ing. Break.

We cant tell you what to learn. You have to learn what interests you.

After your break, try writing.

With that, I'm done here. Good luck.
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I can write a coherent tune ... But 3/4? I play rock, not polka.
#39
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Take. A. ****ing. Break.

We cant tell you what to learn. You have to learn what interests you.

After your break, try writing.

With that, I'm done here. Good luck.


thanks and ok Im taking a break Im gonna watch all the star wars again on bluray


Thanks all you guys for help
#40
Don't forget to take up cycling. The learning Portuguese is optional, but recommended.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
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