#1
I'm thinking of getting a fuzz pedal due to the fact my favourite guitarists Matt Bellamy from muse, John Frusciante ex red hot chilli peppers, Jack White ex white stripes & Dan Auerbach of the black keys so I decided to get the Akai drive3 fuzz because I saw it on ebay but then I bought a guitar magazine which had a guide to all effects and what the best pedals for that effect and it had the EHX big muff pi w/tone wicker which costs the exact same price £59/$93 so I decided to check it on the EHX website and it was classed as a distortion pedal not fuzz so which one should I get

Akai drive 3 fuzz which is clearly a fuzz pedal and has 3 modes of fuzz

Or

EHX big muff pi which the magazine classed as one of the top 3 fuzz pedals but on the website classed it as a distortion pedal

2 pedals same price, peoples opinions please
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#2
the akai is a rebranded biyang. (a) you can get them cheaper elsewhere (e.g. on musicstore's site, rebranded as "fame") and (b) more importantly, if my experience was anything to go by, they break if you look at them funny.

i've only tried the normal muff, not the wicker one. ages ago, too, can't remember much about it.
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#3
Quote by Dave_Mc
the akai is a rebranded biyang. (a) you can get them cheaper elsewhere (e.g. on musicstore's site, rebranded as "fame") and (b) more importantly, if my experience was anything to go by, they break if you look at them funny.

i've only tried the normal muff, not the wicker one. ages ago, too, can't remember much about it.

Thanks dave I'll check that out
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#4
woodbrass might have them too, under the eagletone brand

though as i said, mine were so unreliable as to make me avoid them, regardless of how cheap they are.

joyo is good on the cheap (or rebranded versions, e.g. harley benton on thomann)- i know tim/greeny (who makes pedals) doesn't like them, but none of mine have broken yet either.

problem being they only do the one fuzz, and it's an octave fuzz.
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#5
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woodbrass might have them too, under the eagletone brand

though as i said, mine were so unreliable as to make me avoid them, regardless of how cheap they are.

joyo is good on the cheap (or rebranded versions, e.g. harley benton on thomann)- i know tim/greeny (who makes pedals) doesn't like them, but none of mine have broken yet either.

problem being they only do the one fuzz, and it's an octave fuzz.

Couldn't find the fuzz pedal by 'fame' on musicstore and I'm just about to look at woodbrass
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#6
i was on woodbrass last night for teh lulz, they seem to have the fuzz

EDIT: http://www.woodbrass.com/en/electric-guitar-effects-distortion-overdrive-fuzz...-eagletone-mozzer-fuzzer-distortion-p75840.html ah only in their shop in paris, though, sorry

but as i said, if the reliability of mine was anything to go by, i wouldn't bother.
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#7
Don't get the Akai. It's ridiculous how they can get away with the prices on those things. If you're only going to choose between those two then the Big Muff wins hands down. I have one and I love it. I didn't use the wickers at first but when I started to I really enjoyed the sound I was getting.
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#8
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Don't get the Akai. It's ridiculous how they can get away with the prices on those things. If you're only going to choose between those two then the Big Muff wins hands down. I have one and I love it. I didn't use the wickers at first but when I started to I really enjoyed the sound I was getting.


What settings do you use with the wicker mate?
I'm in the same boat, I have the pedal but never use the wicker switch at all, probably because it sounds so damn good without it lol.
#9
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Don't get the Akai. It's ridiculous how they can get away with the prices on those things. If you're only going to choose between those two then the Big Muff wins hands down. I have one and I love it. I didn't use the wickers at first but when I started to I really enjoyed the sound I was getting.

What settings do you use to get a modern day fuzz not a vintage 60's fuzz
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#10
I consider muffs to be a modern sounding fuzz. They're used most notably by Smashing Pumpkins and Silversun Pickups... Those both sound very modern to me. Vintage fuzz sounds are usually fuzz face variants.
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#11
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I consider muffs to be a modern sounding fuzz. They're used most notably by Smashing Pumpkins and Silversun Pickups... Those both sound very modern to me. Vintage fuzz sounds are usually fuzz face variants.

More of a muse fan than smashing pumpkins or silversun
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#12
i think muse is a fuzz factory, but don't quote me on that

just noticed what amp you're using- honestly if you end up buying a boutique fuzz (different if you buy a joyo or similar, of course) you could get a far better amp than you have for the money and that might be more useful. if you're mainly using pedals for your distortion even a little 5 watt tube amp (e.g. vht special 6 or something like that) would sound way better than what you're currently using...
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#13
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i think muse is a fuzz factory, but don't quote me on that

just noticed what amp you're using- honestly if you end up buying a boutique fuzz (different if you buy a joyo or similar, of course) you could get a far better amp than you have for the money and that might be more useful. if you're mainly using pedals for your distortion even a little 5 watt tube amp (e.g. vht special 6 or something like that) would sound way better than what you're currently using...

The discreet...you need a new amp suggestion
But Dave is right. A new amp might be a better choice right now. Even if it is something small.
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#14
Yeah I know it is a fuzz factory but surely you'd be able to get close to that tone with the big muff

And I know I need a better amp as everyone who looks at my sig tells me to but I'm happy with that and I expected for £150 odd it would not be the best amp in the world but for now it works
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#15
Youre better off looking for a zvex mastotron then a big muff
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#17
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Youre better off looking for a zvex mastotron then a big muff

Why is that ???
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#18
Wow, I didn't notice the amp either. I wouldn't bother with a good fuzz until you get that amp sorted out.
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#19
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Why is that ???

In a lot of ways it is similar to the Fuzz Factory
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#20
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In a lot of ways it is similar to the Fuzz Factory

Oh right but how much is it due to the pedals this thread is about are both £60 odd
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#21
You know what, just get a Joyo.
It's cheap and it won't be that big of a loss when you realize it won't sound good with your MG
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#22
Look up what amps those guys run their fuzzes into and you'll realize that its pointless to spend this much time and money thinking about what fuzz they use and completely ignore the amps.
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#23
sell the mg and get a new amp with the money. May I suggest a windsor studio?
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#24
This isn't a "which amp should I get so I can get a fuzz pedal later to run into it" thread. Run the fuzz through the Clean channel on the MG and you're fine. They have passable cleans to run fuzz pedals into. Trust me, I had to do it many times when I was back at school.

Seriously, how hard is it just to answer the question being posed?
#25
FWIW, I read a lot of info & reviews about the Big Muff pedals before buying one. Even though EHX describes most of them as distortion, pretty much all reviews & other sites describe them as fuzz. As with all things, the best advice if you aren't sure is to try one and decide if you like it or not.

Have to admit though, despite being one of the few people brave enough to say MGs aren't as bad as most people here say they are, it is still the obvious weakness in your sound. If you've reached the point where you have outgrown the sound of your amp, then a better amp should be your first priority.
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#26
Quote by Dan_5893
This isn't a "which amp should I get so I can get a fuzz pedal later to run into it" thread. Run the fuzz through the Clean channel on the MG and you're fine. They have passable cleans to run fuzz pedals into. Trust me, I had to do it many times when I was back at school.

Seriously, how hard is it just to answer the question being posed?


we already did answer the fuzz thing. and as most of us said, if he can get one cheap enough, he can go for it.

But we'd also be doing him a disservice if we didn't also warn him that his amp is the problem (especially when matt bellamy tones came up- fuzz factories are expensive here!), and unless he can get a cheap fuzz, a new amp might be a better use of his funds.

this forum is for advice- if someone asks how to do something which isn't sensible, or which is dangerous, then we're going to tell them not to do it. We don't just rubber stamp things here- obviously it's still the threadstarter's call at the end of the day, as it's his/her money (and that's as it should be), but that doesn't mean we're going to humour them if we think that what they're planning to do isn't sensible.
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#27
You know what I'm just gonna buy the german diy copy of the fuzz factory
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I hit 'em and they stay down
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