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#41
Quote by arthur_s
Never get tired of them These are Gods and always will be, even when the world will die after 1000 years, these old bands will remain
Agree?


no I do not.
#42
Quote by VampireGoldfish
I like music that tickles my fancy
Magero likes music that tickles his fancy
This is fine with me

Anyways dumb thread.


All the fancies must be tickled!

OT: The bands you posted? Lawl, I haven't listened to them in forever 'cause bleh.
#43
Quote by arthur_s
Never get tired of them These are Gods and always will be, even when the world will die after 1000 years, these old bands will remain
Agree?

Not really. There are a lot of bands that I like to listen to, but if I'm not in the mood, then I'll stop listening to them and move on to other stuff. For example, I like Trivium a lot (inb4 lololololol he's a Trivitard and irrelephant hurhurhur), but I get burned out listening to them. They're certainly a band I think has the potential to stick around for a while, but it's not something I can listen to day in and day out.
#44
Quote by Sanitarium91
but it seems the old schooler's are more vocal about their view. Or then maybe I've just been subjected to this view more frequently.

I think it's really ironic that old schoolers have been hipsters since even before the word hipster was even invented.
#45
Quote by Geldin
Not really. There are a lot of bands that I like to listen to, but if I'm not in the mood, then I'll stop listening to them and move on to other stuff. For example, I like Trivium a lot (inb4 lololololol he's a Trivitard and irrelephant hurhurhur), but I get burned out listening to them. They're certainly a band I think has the potential to stick around for a while, but it's not something I can listen to day in and day out.


Any band, that one listens to in excess, will get tiring after awhile. I'm that way with Trivium, mostly specific albums. I also get that way with Vehemence, which is pretty much the reason I've been listening to Helping The World To See more than God Was Created lately.
#46
Quote by Morphogenesis26
Any band, that one listens to in excess, will get tiring after awhile. I'm that way with Trivium, mostly specific albums. I also get that way with Vehemence, which is pretty much the reason I've been listening to Helping The World To See more than God Was Created lately.

I had completely forgotten that Vehemence existed.
#47
Quote by Scourge441
I had completely forgotten that Vehemence existed.


For shame.
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#48
Quote by CoreysMonster
I think it's really ironic that old schoolers have been hipsters since even before the word hipster was even invented.
I didn't know hipsters (women's panties) were such a recent invention.

In all seriousness though, I don't think I got your joke. Please elaborate.
#49
Quote by Sanitarium91
I didn't know hipsters (women's panties) were such a recent invention.

In all seriousness though, I don't think I got your joke. Please elaborate.


I think it's because "old schoolers" talk about how much better and/or obscure their favourite bands are. Of course, obscurity/underground is all relative..
#50
Do serious people ever really talk about how obscure bands are anymore?
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#51
Quote by The Wildchild
Do serious people ever really talk about how obscure bands are anymore?

No. That's how you know if they're serious or not.
#52
Quote by technicolour
I think it's because "old schoolers" talk about how much better and/or obscure their favourite bands are. Of course, obscurity/underground is all relative..

This, and how much better old things are and how metal was better before it was popular.
#53
Quote by technicolour
I think it's because "old schoolers" talk about how much better and/or obscure their favourite bands are. Of course, obscurity/underground is all relative..
Oh, alright, I just didn't see "old schooler" as automatically an underground thing. But I see the point.

While it's relevant to the discussion at hand, this got me thinking, and I'd like to hear you guys answer to a classic question you might hear from a person in real life: "What are some bands you like to listen to?"

After that, I'd like you to give a brief description of how well the people around you know these bands. I know we live in all parts of the world and have all kinds of tastes. I'm curious as some of us might be lucky enough to be surrounded by musically likeminded people, but I for one am not. Curious how I can relate to your feelings about the music you listen to when perceived by others around you.
#54
Quote by Sanitarium91
While it's relevant to the discussion at hand, this got me thinking, and I'd like to hear you guys answer to a classic question you might hear from a person in real life: "What are some bands you like to listen to?"

After that, I'd like you to give a brief description of how well the people around you know these bands. I know we live in all parts of the world and have all kinds of tastes. I'm curious as some of us might be lucky enough to be surrounded by musically likeminded people, but I for one am not. Curious how I can relate to your feelings about the music you listen to when perceived by others around you.

I'm actually lucky enough to have a couple of friends who are also metal fans. A number of my friends who aren't real metalheads like a few of the artists I listen to (Meshuggah and BTBAM are pretty accessible, I guess?). Only a few of my friends actually dislike my music and refuse to listen to any of it.
#55
Quote by CoreysMonster
This, and how much better old things are and how metal was better before it was popular.


Popular is also relative. I think Burzum was way more popular in the early 90s than now. Most of the "older" bands are better though because the genres have practically run their course, it's difficult to bring something worthwhile to the table nowadays.

That being said I like plenty of modern metal bands.

My closest friends are past or present metal tourists. One of them is just obsessed with technicality and isn't interested in metal that isn't hard to play. Another one I've gotten in to black metal because he digs the atmosphere and ambiance, but he isn't actively searching for more in metal, he mostly listens to electronic stuff (not dub step).
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#56
Quote by Sanitarium91
Oh, alright, I just didn't see "old schooler" as automatically an underground thing. But I see the point.

While it's relevant to the discussion at hand, this got me thinking, and I'd like to hear you guys answer to a classic question you might hear from a person in real life: "What are some bands you like to listen to?"

After that, I'd like you to give a brief description of how well the people around you know these bands. I know we live in all parts of the world and have all kinds of tastes. I'm curious as some of us might be lucky enough to be surrounded by musically likeminded people, but I for one am not. Curious how I can relate to your feelings about the music you listen to when perceived by others around you.

I avoid that question like the plague.

Depending on how pretentious I feel like sounding at the moment, my answer ranges from name dropping Romantic composers to just shrugging my shoulders and saying "eh just some old rock and stuff".
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#57
If you just give someone band names: "I've never heard of any of those"
In all other accounts you either get misrepresented (I listen to metal, or hardcore, or "everything") or they might not understand your answer, eg: I listen to music that challenges the ear/mind.

It's lose lose lose
#58
Yessir. Which is why I avoid it.

I mean, why should I say that I listen to Ildjarn, Beherit, and King Crimson. We both know they haven't heard of any of the bands, and sometimes I will even get nods and words of approval from these chaps as if they know the bands quite well. Speaks more as a merit of bad character than anything else, but thats something else.

I suppose I could just say Meshuggah and ask for anal penetration. Thats what all the kids are doing these days.
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#59
Haha, alright, so I guess I'm not the only one who gets uncomfortable when the question is thrown. I'm guessing that in 'murica the ratio of metal listeners is smaller than in a lot of European countries, so it might be even more dreadful a question there.

I guess I try to avoid it by giving some vague genre based answer, and maybe add a household name like Miles Davis. But if they want bands it gets awkward when they know none of them, and then I get uncomfortable and say something stupid like "yeah they're pretty underground" and end up looking like a hipster douche who listens to that music cause no one knows it. True story.
Quote by Geldin
I'm actually lucky enough to have a couple of friends who are also metal fans. A number of my friends who aren't real metalheads like a few of the artists I listen to (Meshuggah and BTBAM are pretty accessible, I guess?). Only a few of my friends actually dislike my music and refuse to listen to any of it.
I have plenty of friends who listen to metal. It's just usually very different bands than what I do. I feel like there's not a person in the world who hasn't heard of Meshuggah. And you know, everyone knows Opeth while no one knows Cynic.
#60
Most of my friends are into surface level metal and crappy metalcore.

It's pretty shite tbh. I'm all like, guys check out this new album from Between The Buried and Me it's awesome!

And they'll be like "nah" and will listen to Pantera and Asking Alexandria.
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#61
Quote by Sanitarium91

I have plenty of friends who listen to metal. It's just usually very different bands than what I do. I feel like there's not a person in the world who hasn't heard of Meshuggah. And you know, everyone knows Opeth while no one knows Cynic.

Strangely enough, I have more friends who know Cynic than Meshuggah or Opeth.
#62
This is part of the reason why I don't like some bands, like Metallica. To be honest, it's the fans that take it too far I don't like that much. Before you rip me apart, hear me out.

Recently, someone posted an article of 'The best Metallica song'. If it was the best song for another band, not Iron Maiden, Metallica, etc. there would be a lot of hate. For instance, if I posted 'The best Slipknot song', there'll be people posting why Slipknot is shit in their opinions.

However, I am not saying that those bands (Metallica, Iron Maiden, etc.) made bad music (there must be a couple of exceptions).
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#63
Quote by Geldin
Strangely enough, I have more friends who know Cynic than Meshuggah or Opeth.
Pfft. You lie. Stop lying.

I do find that very strange actually, I would think anyone who would know Cynic would know those bands as well. Then again, Opeth and Meshuggah are from our neighbor country so maybe things are different here. I thought the djent fad had became so huge all across the world by now so I'd have though there's no place on earth where Meshuggah isn't known.
#64
Quote by ChemicalFire
Most of my friends are into surface level metal and crappy metalcore.

It's pretty shite tbh. I'm all like, guys check out this new album from Between The Buried and Me it's awesome!

And they'll be like "nah" and will listen to Pantera and Asking Alexandria.

Hahaha
#65
Quote by technicolour
eg: I listen to music that challenges the ear/mind.


Come on man

I normally wittle it down to 'punk, indie and arty stuff' which is a decent coverall
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#66
Quote by dillonrips7
Hahaha


Yes okay, it's not super unknown and niche.

But would you really put BTBAM on the same level as Asking Alexandria?
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#67
Quote by Sanitarium91
Oh, alright, I just didn't see "old schooler" as automatically an underground thing. But I see the point.

While it's relevant to the discussion at hand, this got me thinking, and I'd like to hear you guys answer to a classic question you might hear from a person in real life: "What are some bands you like to listen to?"

After that, I'd like you to give a brief description of how well the people around you know these bands. I know we live in all parts of the world and have all kinds of tastes. I'm curious as some of us might be lucky enough to be surrounded by musically likeminded people, but I for one am not. Curious how I can relate to your feelings about the music you listen to when perceived by others around you.


I don't like the question and get pretty uncomfortable when it's asked, but let me tell you a story on this topic.

Early into the year, I had been taking Violin lessons from a person who had taught me 3 years of guitar and a year of piano. I was in one of his recitals that he holds every few months, but I made this one my last because my family didn't have the money to continue lessons with him(65 dollars a month, 30 minute lessons once a week).

Well, I went to this recital and was getting ready for my performance while all the other students performed, and a few people showed up. They were friends of my mother who have been in music for years, and they asked if I wanted to play with them. So, I figured I'd give it a shot since I can't say no and I wouldn't be taking lessons anymore. Big mistake.

These were two girls, one 18 and the other 13. I live in Tennessee, so generally they just love pop-country like Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Toby Keith, all that tripe. Well, these 2 have been singing and playing all across the state, but they didn't have a lick of knowledge on theory, or even how to play their instruments.

Well, I played some terrible shows with them and finally we went to this center that feeds kids from poor households, but also gives kids the ability to play music. So, I figured this might go well, hell, they even had a Metal night on Saturdays.

I met the guys who enjoyed Metal...They loved Pierce The Veil, Black Veil Brides, Senses Fail, Emmure(Sorry Chem), Asking Alexandria, and other such bands. I tried to jam with the vocalist, who was very good at distorted vox, even could do Demilich-esque gurgles. The problem was, however, that he only wanted me to do breakdown riffs and nothing else.

So, this is the kind of people I'm surrounded by; People who love mainstream country or people who love the most pedestrian of Metal. But something happened at this place; I got asked what kind of music I liked while on their band stage practicing with those 2 girls.

I tried to answer with Melodic Death Metal and Progressive Rock, since that's what most of my listening consists of, but I was met with people saying, "Play The Civil Wars! Play Boys Like Girls! Play Simple Plan!". So, since then I completely avoid the question.

That's my long ass story. C:
#68
Quote by duncang
Come on man

I normally wittle it down to 'punk, indie and arty stuff' which is a decent coverall


Just saying that's something you could say
#69
Quote by ChemicalFire
Yes okay, it's not super unknown and niche.

But would you really put BTBAM on the same level as Asking Alexandria?
No, but it's not such a stretch.

Really though, I'm sure they have songs that could ease them into it. I don't know the music well enough to say if they have the necessary amount of catchy choruses and breakdowns, but they kinda have some similar aesthetics anyway. I know they're obviously not as blatantly pop music though.
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That's my long ass story. C:



Goddamn man, I guess that's America for you. At least I have some agreeable band likings with a lot of people. Even if our favourites tend to be very different.
#70
Quote by Sanitarium91
No, but it's not such a stretch.

Really though, I'm sure they have songs that could ease them into it. I don't know the music well enough to say if they have the necessary amount of catchy choruses and breakdowns, but they kinda have some similar aesthetics anyway. I know they're obviously not as blatantly pop music though.


You are right, but the point is is that don't give it a chance because it's not cool and on the front cover on Kerrang or some crap.
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#71
Haha, and I thought the place were I lived was a cultural wasteland. At least I know a couple of people who like pedestrian black/death bands and European power metal. Must suck to be you guys.

Oh and the question, depends on whose asking, but I guess generally I just tell them I like metal bands like Sabbath, Priest and Maiden (Oh hey look, almost back on the subject of the thread) and progressive rock bands like Genesis and Yes. Most people will respond to at least one of those names. If I'm feeling daring, drunk* or I'm talking to someone who doesn't look like they've had a haircut in the past couple of years I might test the waters by asking if they're familiar with Venom or Mercyful Fate.

*When I'm drunk I tend to lose all sense of what's acceptable musically. A couple of months back I got dragged to some house party and after a couple of beers I started telling the guy who was playing music over the speakers to put on some Sodom. It did lead to a conversation about metal in which he revealed that he doesn't like Bruce Dickinson's vocals. At that point he was pretty lucky that I was incapacitated.
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#72
Quote by Sanitarium91
Goddamn man, I guess that's America for you. At least I have some agreeable band likings with a lot of people. Even if our favourites tend to be very different.


I could find common ground with some of these people, but the problem is that they're more nostalgic mainstream rock bands I used to like a lot, such as Breaking Benjamin, Finger Eleven, Groundswell, Three Days Grace, Trapt, etc. You'd think that wouldn't be a problem, right? Well, these people treat those bands as bands they've grew out of and are too old for, yet they listen to bands that are arguably worse.

But, oh well.
#73
Hear ya man, in that case it's not worth calling common ground really.
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I started telling the guy who was playing music over the speakers to put on some Sodom.
Ha, I've sort of made a point to myself not to play metal in parties these days. Or sometimes I might even be asked to put something on, but I find it hard to think of anything suitable for the moment, cause I feel the music I listen to is somehow very personal. It's hardly ever anywhere near any kind of social music. Even if it's jazz or something. It makes me feel like a retard for putting it on, almost as if I'm embarassed of the music I like.
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You are right, but the point is is that don't give it a chance because it's not cool and on the front cover on Kerrang or some crap.
I know man, I know.
#74
Quote by Morphogenesis26

I met the guys who enjoyed Metal...They loved Pierce The Veil, Black Veil Brides, Senses Fail, Emmure(Sorry Chem)


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#76
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#77
i get tired of boring bands like metallica
#78
Sincerly i got tired of bands like Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and all this bands from the 70's early 80's bit i still love bands like Slayer (Hail) and Testament. But my most beloved metal band are from the late 80's and the early 90's bands like Sarcofago, Morbid Angel, Death and Krisiun... And yes, i think that the older bands are very overrated and worshiped, there's a lot of good underground metal bands now days, specially thrash metal, bands like warbringer, suicidal angels and ect..
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#79
I got bored of Metallica after 3 years of listening...

But Slayer, Megadeth, and Testament still come out with good albums.
But they will never be as good as they were in the 80s.
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#80
I used to be an elitist wanker who would only listen to the old bands, but recently Ive changed and couldnt care less, as long as the music is awesome

I am pretty sick of listening to the same sabbath etc albums all the damn time