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This actually is about sex. Can anyone explain to me what sex has to do with virtue?

Backstory: Chatting with a coworker, sex comes up, somehow I mention I don't think there's anything morally wrong with casual sex with multiple partners, he gives me a Bert stare and mutters something about society's moral compass going down the shitter.

I guess I forgot that my view was considered a radical one. I just fail to see how messing around with anyone, even a total stranger, is wrong. If there's mutual consent, nobody's underage, and you're not betraying a partner's trust to do so, how is promiscuity wrong?

Please discuss
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#2
Animal nature.
Your coworker probably can't get any, hence the mad.
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#4
I draw the line when i get syphilis.
You dirty piece of shit, you.

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#5
cause you're putting yourself in someone else literally




#7
lets have sex ts
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#9
I saw sex in the title, i'm listening.....
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can i join? i showered!

Shure, but use protection. I don't want to have another mud baby.
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#13
The only reasonable reason for 'promiscuity' being wrong in a consensual, legal context is the betrayal of trust that might result.

If there's nothing like that, I don't see it as wrong at all. Whether it's wise or not, given the array of STDs around, is another matter completely.

Although I would say in areas in which there are no means of protection against disease and pregnancy that my position would change to one of disapproval of such practices, especially if there are no means of testing or treatment of STDs, one would in fact be potentially killing others and hurting/killing oneself.
#14
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#15
Different opinions.

Personally I dislike the idea of lots of casual sex... mainly because I'm too shy to get casual sex and thus have to make do with more long term commitment.
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#17
It's a very easy way to pick up a slew of diseases, and for that reason, can be seen as unclean.
#18
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#19
TS's views are too edgy for me.


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More or less.


To be fair, he and most other people I know think it's wrong for men to be promiscuous as well.

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It's a very easy way to pick up a slew of diseases, and for that reason, can be seen as unclean.

How does that translate to immoral?
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#22
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How does that translate to immoral?


I think most judgments of morality are in fact a result of societal conditioning to adopt or reject practices that may be helpful or harmful.

Obviously, in first world countries, it's not much of a problem as long as precautionary measures are taken. So, since we have that, the belief is not morally relevant anymore from a practical or ethical standpoint.
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#24
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To be fair, he and most other people I know think it's wrong for men to be promiscuous as well.
Most of the guys I know are pretty open and casual about their sexual encounters and intentions of going out to hook up with girls

In America religion is probably more responsible for the stigma against casual sex than anything what with sex to be something shared between a man and women bound in holy matrimony. If you're looking for a more logical underlying reason other than "this is how I interpret the bible" I'm not sure that one exists.

From an evolutionary standpoint it makes sense that a woman who will bear the child and undergo a 9 month period of gestation would be more selective in choosing a mate than a male who can reproduce multiple times a day with no real ill-consequence to himself and no real liability to stay and care for the mother/baby. However, with modern contraception that is out the window, but one can argue we're still "hardwired" to think that way. But since you're claiming that people are also judgmental of promiscuous men that would suggest something cultural, so we're back to the bible.
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I think most judgments of morality are in fact a result of societal conditioning to adopt or reject practices that may be helpful or harmful.

Obviously, in first world countries, it's not much of a problem as long as precautionary measures are taken. So, since we have that, the belief is not morally relevant anymore from a practical or ethical standpoint.
Morals are simply a reflection of a society's ideals.

So, I guess that could be the root of the ideal.
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How does that translate to immoral?


People failing to differentiate between the two? **** if I know.
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#28
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It's a very easy way to pick up a slew of diseases, and for that reason, can be seen as unclean.

Same with not wearing a jacket out in the cold, but that doesn't make it immoral.

OT: Your coworker is wrong to judge anyone based on promiscuity, and is likely in need of a night out.
#29
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This bro wasn't even religious. I also have a friend who's a very forward thinking feminist and he's against anything other than monogamy. He also thinks virginity is something you have to save for the right person and that it's wrong for a 20 year old to have sex with someone over 26. Sex is definitely something even so-called progressives are behind on.
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This bro wasn't even religious. I also have a friend who's a very forward thinking feminist and he's against anything other than monogamy. He also thinks virginity is something you have to save for the right person and that it's wrong for a 20 year old to have sex with someone over 26. Sex is definitely something even so-called progressives are behind on.

You need to show your friend the half your age + 7 rule.
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This bro wasn't even religious. I also have a friend who's a very forward thinking feminist and he's against anything other than monogamy. He also thinks virginity is something you have to save for the right person and that it's wrong for a 20 year old to have sex with someone over 26. Sex is definitely something even so-called progressives are behind on.

Or maybe your view of promiscuity isn't the right one. Ever consider that? No, you probably haven't. I doubt you even have casual sex all the time.
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How does that translate to immoral?

Exposing others to disease, shows a lack of self respect, etc.
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I feel like there should be things that are kept somewhat "sacred" for the reason that if everything was casual, then life loses a lot of specialness.

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#33
Nothing wrong with a bit of hedonism.
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#34
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Or maybe your view of promiscuity isn't the right one. Ever consider that? No, you probably haven't. I doubt you even have casual sex all the time.

Exposing others to disease, shows a lack of self respect, etc.

Why does having sex show a lack of self respect? It's just putting a penis in a hole, or getting a hole filled with penis.

edit: or fingers or tongues or dildos etc etc
#35
I'm an atheist dude (I saw religion brought up somewhere in here, so I thought I'd state that) and I think that sex should be between two people that love eachother. I think that hooking up just to have sex then leave is stupid and immoral; People who date women just to get laid are at the top of my shit list as well.

Just my 2 cents.
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Why does having sex show a lack of self respect? It's just putting a penis in a hole, or getting a hole filled with penis.

edit: or fingers or tongues or dildos etc etc

you already said it yourself, it exposes people to disease
#37
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I feel like there should be things that are kept somewhat "sacred" for the reason that if everything was casual, then life loses a lot of specialness.

Then hibernate more, so waking up doesn't lose its "specialness". Or hey, why not starve yourself more often? Or don't play music everyday, so it doesn't lose its specialness.


I get the 'too much of a good thing is a bad thing' view, but 'casual sex' doesn't equate to sex addiction (I guess it's how you choose to define promiscuity). There are lots of responsible people out there who don't overdo everything and use safe-sex practices, don't make 'em dirty, immoral people.
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I feel like there should be things that are kept somewhat "sacred" for the reason that if everything was casual, then life loses a lot of specialness.

But no one is going to force you to have casual sex with people. If you prefer to only have sex with someone you're in a committed relationship with that's fine, but why should you impose your preferences on other people and frown upon them if they act differently? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth and thus am not directing this specifically at you, but the stigma is there so that is how some people think.
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Why does having sex show a lack of self respect? It's just putting a penis in a hole, or getting a hole filled with penis.

edit: or fingers or tongues or dildos etc etc


Well sex is a self-pleasuring exercise (yes you read correctly), and hedonism is just a more fun version of nihilism.

I wouldn't go as far as to say promiscuity is actually disrespectful to oneself, but it certainly isn't all fine and dandy, especially thanks to STIs and the amount of people that neglect to get themselves checked.
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I'm an atheist dude (I saw religion brought up somewhere in here, so I thought I'd state that) and I think that sex should be between two people that love eachother. I think that hooking up just to have sex then leave is stupid and immoral; People who date women just to get laid are at the top of my shit list as well.

Just my 2 cents.

What about women that date guys just to have sex? What if both parties just mutually want to indulge in lust and nothing more? Instead they have to suppress those feelings for some arbitrary quest for love?
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