dimenzakk
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#1
hey peeps.
i'm looking for a pedal or maybe eq options or something the like to add more bottom end to passages.
so imagine riffing along to death metal and as your outro you have this huge riff that has a half beat behind it and the crowd is going off.
you stomp on this pedal/eq/whatever and it doesnt boost the volume but it just makes it sound "bigger" and people go nuts......
good idea i thought.
anyone know my options?
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#2
I love your description, makes it sound bigger and people go nuts

It'd help to know what amp you're using. an MXR 10-band EQ would probably help, maybe a TS-9 even?
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well. a bigger cab but thats bigger all the time not on a stomp. same with thicker strings.

EQ pedal will easily do it.

in terms of a boost, there are some pedals that add that charasteristic. one is the xotic EP booster. it makes just about anything sound thicker and more full. i even tried it on my friends high gain setup and he loved it.

adds a touch of bass too but its still good and tighter, not flubby. i know many boosts that are miidded out or flat, the EP has a unique EQ curve for a boost. adds a touch of compression too.
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dimenzakk
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#4
ok.....
i run a Rivera KR7.
already have a maxon od808 AND a ts9 looped through a GCX.
maxon is always on and the ts9 boosts and smoothes out solos.
i HAD a mxr kk 10 band but i just diced it, didnt need it.
but i also have a G major2 which has onboard eq if i need it.....
so i was thinking of loading something into the gcx.
ive heard aphex Big Bottom or Aural xciter are good, but i havent heard these before or know a shop that stocks one i can check out.....
so i'm trying to pull collective knowledge
thanks
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#5
I'd probably use one of the EQ to cut the bottom end and then kick it out when you want bigger. The crowd won't really notice the bottom was missing
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Quote by dimenzakk
ok.....
i run a Rivera KR7.
already have a maxon od808 AND a ts9 looped through a GCX.
maxon is always on and the ts9 boosts and smoothes out solos.
i HAD a mxr kk 10 band but i just diced it, didnt need it.
but i also have a G major2 which has onboard eq if i need it.....
so i was thinking of loading something into the gcx.
ive heard aphex Big Bottom or Aural xciter are good, but i havent heard these before or know a shop that stocks one i can check out.....
so i'm trying to pull collective knowledge
thanks

What's your cab? Frankly that rig should be plenty ballsy enough! Maybe a Port City or Mesa oversized cab would help.
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tweak the preset on the G Major 2. That parametric EQ is pretty nice, and you can footswitch it in to give you some extra "hugeness".

Do you have the PC editor for the GM2? Makes editing the para EQ WAY easier.
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dimenzakk
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No I don't.
Some stupid glitch won't let me computer run it.
Which present are you talking about?
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#12
Swollen pickle with the sustain a tad bit low, loudness at unity, and the filter up just enough to thicken your sound, it won't sound like a fuzz so much as it will just fill in harmonics and add the bottom end you want.
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I use a bad monkey to boost and help add bass back in. I have been wondering about the Ibanez big bottom boost though......
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Start out with a thinner sound as someone mentioned.
Maybe play the first part of riffage through a distortion pedal or something, this is only a example and play the fatter part on your amp set to maximum lard impact XD
I would imagine having a eq pedal to be helpful in this situation.
I don't have experience with the Rivera amps, but if it's not giving you the low end you want , there's always some other options too that don't require extra pedals to get there.
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Oh this KR7 has a MASSIVE bottom end. Almost too big!!!
And it's still tight and awesome.
But some passages just call for..... More
Which is why I'm asking. Thanks for all this though.
There's some great tips here. So far I'm using the eq.... Can't say I'm happy with it..... Yet.
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Try writing a patch on the g-major that combines the parametric eq and the compressor.
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What you need is a Boss HM-2.

One of my favorite pedals, but probably not the best for what he's doing.
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Too lazy to read the above posts so I'm gonna suggest a couple cheap pedals...

EHX Mole or Devi Ever Dark Boost
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+1 on the EHX Mole.
Also, check out the Ibanez BB9 - big bottom boost.
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Delay set real short, before the amp, or chorus with the least amount of depth/detune?
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I don't understand... why wasn't the EQ working for you? Set it as a bass boost and only turn it on when you need it...
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I run a ts808 that is always on through a peavey classic 50. I have the gain on the dirty channel pretty much maxed, and the 808 ran as a boost straight into the amp. The 808 kills the lows in our tone. I went out and bought an Xotic Ep booster because I've been gassin for on for a while now. I put it through the peavey's fx loop, and set the dip switches in the back of the pedal so that whenever the ep is set to it's minimum setting, it matches the current volume of everything. Leaving it set minimum enhances your tone in a way I really can't put my finger on. I have it set at 9 o'clock, and I leave it on all the time. It even improves the tone of my clean channel. Really brings out the SRV tone i'm going for running the ts808 into the clean channel. Gives it that FAT Stevie strat sound. First off, it doesn't change your core tone in ANY way. The Ep tastefully adds a little bit of a high end sparkle as well. But the main reason i've fallen in love with this little pedal is because it adds these lows to the tone, that doesn't make it boomy, as in if you just turned the bass up on your amp, but makes whole tone sound fatter, and cut through the mix better. Kind of like if you had a thicker guage of strings. The lower mids I guess? I tried turning the pedal off, and simply turned up the volume and bass/mids, but it honestly was not the same. The only word I can think of that describes the enhancement on my orignal tone is magical. Haha, but for real, this pedal KILLS in a band situation.
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Stack like 15 Tubescreamers..
But actually, get a compressor and/or EQ
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Quote by jmaguire
Stack like 15 Tubescreamers..
But actually, get a compressor and/or EQ

Tubecsreamers tend to cut bass

I agree with the compressor pedal suggestion
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Quote by AxSilentxLine
Tubecsreamers tend to cut bass

I agree with the compressor pedal suggestion


I realise, I was just mocking the whole 'get a boost' suggestion.
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dimenzakk
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#28
I guess I haven't worked out what frequencies to tweak yet cause with just an eq boost it just gets "woofy" and not "big" get me?
It's hard to explain. I'm liking ALOT of these ideas but.
Just still don't know what road to take. I guess I got some stuff to buy :/
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#29
If you can't get what you need out of what you have already you haven't worked out how to drive it properly. You shouldn't need to buy squat.


For the parametric, start with a high Q (ie narrow bandwidth) and a boost of between 3 and 6 dB. Then sweep the centre frequency until you find the closest thing to what you want to achieve. After that start playing with the Q and finally the level of boost.

Then kick in the compressor and twiddle with its setting until you get it to pop in the mix like you want.
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dimenzakk
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#30
Done.....
Still a bit woofy but definately makes it BIG.
The other guitarist is kinda jealous
Thanks for everyone's help