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I went to a state school and would not send my child to a private school.
69 42%
I went to a state school and would send my child to a private school.
45 27%
I went to a private school and would not send my child to a private school.
12 7%
I went to a private school and would send my child to a private school.
38 23%
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#41
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
So...students are "oppressed". Ok, then...

You know, Stewie, you usually make quite compelling arguments, and I was quite looking forward to your thoughts on this.



If I were to make an argument, it would merely be a condensed version of what Friere is saying in that chapter. Might as well read from the original source since the opportunity is available.
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#42
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I'm not reading any of that. Is this how people defend their opinions these days? Sending 3rd-party links?


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#43
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So...students are "oppressed". Ok, then...

You know, Stewie, you usually make quite compelling arguments, and I was quite looking forward to your thoughts on this.


I'm disappoint, son...


I was always under the impression that 3rd party links were to be used to strengthen one's argument and provide more "mere opinion".


That I have no problem with, but you have to present some of personal insight first and THEN use the 3rd-party link to "strengthen" it. If you want people to actually care about what you have to say, you've to use your own words, it's also mutually-respective to do so.
#44
I think there is something seriously wrong with the divide between public and state
schools. Often the kids won't generally perform any better than a state schooled child,
but because of certain connections or influence these schools have then the children
more than not end up in better universities and then once you write "eton" on a CV , better jobs.

For a prime example , look at the current british government.

The wealthy should not have a better chance of a good education or job just because they have money. It should be based entirely on the person.
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#45
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Please remove your user title, it's rather misleading.

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#46
I wouldn't send my kid to a private school. I already pay for public schools, why would I pay out my ass even more for a private school? They can make the best of the tools given to them.
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#50
All of the private schools around here are Christian. so because of that I would not send by kid to one. Unless there was one that was religiously neutral and had stats to back up the quality of their education, AND I could afford it, would I even think of sending my kid to a private school.
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#51
Didn't go to one, wouldn't send my children to one. Fair enough you might get better teachers, a nicer environment and an overall better education and life from it. However, at state schools you have to deal with people from all walks of life which helps massively when you finish your education and get into the real world. If the child is naturally bright they can excel at any school and I'm quite sure that there are some better teachers at state schools than at private schools who have a natural sense of wanting to do the best for the kids they teach. In short, I reckon private, fee paying schools don't actually provide as well rounded an education regarding life in general as well as academia as state schools.
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#52
I happen to live in an area where education is highly valued and where the schools are excellent (I'm 16 in the U.S.) However if public schools weren't that great, I would definitely consider sending my child in the future to a private school
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#54
I didn't read the, "And you knew they would get a better education from it," part. Any half decent hypothetical parent would want to give their child the best education possible. But you don't learn very much in highschool anyway. I'm about to graduate from a private school and my kids will almost certainly go to a public school because it sucks here.

#55
I'm in college right now and have friends who went to private school. I don't mean to offend anyone, but it just seems like they don't understand how the world works. They've only been in contact with rich, white people from the suburbs. The advantage of public schools is the diversity of the student body. I met kids from all different walks of life, that were very different from me. There was usually controversial topics happening in students' lives and this allowed us to experience the world very differently than kids from private schools.
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#56
I went to a private school until I was 10. My parents felt it was a complete waste of money and today I can honestly say I felt no benefit from it.

Furthermore...

I know a girl who goes to my course who went to private school and she told me she got an A in History class, but she doesn't know who Hitler is.

Yeah. She saw an old picture of a guy with a moustache and said that was Hitler. She was not trying to be funny. She was dead serious.

So yeah. Private schools. Not even once.

EDIT: If I really did want to put my kids somewhere "highly academically to improve their outlooks for the future" I'd go for an IB school.
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#57
It just happens to be that there's a load of damn good state schools in my area, and it's a bit of a trek to the nearest public schools. So yeah, I'm glad I didn't go private, I don't really feel like I could have turned out much better. I don't mean that in a "I bossed school" way, but my grades were pretty high, I think I reached my potential, and I met a lot of friends from different backgrounds. And my school wasn't all boys, which is obviously a massive plus.
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But do they really?



Depends on the public school system in your area, but in many, yes, they do. In others, not so much. It just depends. I went to a private school because the public schools in my area sucked. Despite that, I know plenty of people who did just fine at public schools. But private schools definitely don't put up with as much shit. Public school teachers are limited in how they can discipline their students, not so much as private schools.

My high school worked very hard to help its students excel, and I doubt I'd be where I am today without going there.

I'd send my kid to either a public or private school, it just depends on the area.
#59
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I'm in college right now and have friends who went to private school. I don't mean to offend anyone, but it just seems like they don't understand how the world works. They've only been in contact with rich, white people from the suburbs. The advantage of public schools is the diversity of the student body. I met kids from all different walks of life, that were very different from me. There was usually controversial topics happening in students' lives and this allowed us to experience the world very differently than kids from private schools.

Depending on where they're from, they could've been surrounded by rich white people even if they'd gone to public school anyway.

On the flip side, my private school in NYC was fairly diverse.
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#60
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That I have no problem with, but you have to present some of personal insight first and THEN use the 3rd-party link to "strengthen" it. If you want people to actually care about what you have to say, you've to use your own words, it's also mutually-respective to do so.

That's what I was getting at.

Anyway, I'm all for private education, provided public education isn't as good. Even if I have to work 2-3 jobs to get my (future) kids a good education, I will.

That said, I do think there's incredible room for improvement in the education in general in the US. We're certainly not up to snuff with many other developed nations.

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I went to a private school until I was 10. My parents felt it was a complete waste of money and today I can honestly say I felt no benefit from it.

Furthermore...

I know a girl who goes to my course who went to private school and she told me she got an A in History class, but she doesn't know who Hitler is.

Yeah. She saw an old picture of a guy with a moustache and said that was Hitler. She was not trying to be funny. She was dead serious.

So yeah. Private schools. Not even once.

>assuming all private schools are like yours or this girl's

Most private schools pride themselves on academic excellence. Obviously, yours and this girl's merely paid lip service to that principle. However, most pay way more than lip service.
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#61
Quote by ErikLensherr
Depending on where they're from, they could've been surrounded by rich white people even if they'd gone to public school anyway.

On the flip side, my private school in NYC was fairly diverse.

Yea, that's what I was thinking. Public doesn't automatically mean diverse. The nearest public school to me is like 90% white or some shit.
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#62
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Yea, that's what I was thinking. Public doesn't automatically mean diverse. The nearest public school to me is like 90% white or some shit.

Basically describes my town's high school.
#63
The school doesn't make them brats, the parenting does

Honestly those who wouldn't consider even if it meant a better education for their child are retards, plain and simple. Saying that you know some kids that thought they were 'the shit' come out of private schools as your justification for not putting your potential children into one of those schools shows that you're not ready to even begin pondering about children in the first place.
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#64
If I had money and the public school near where we live is shitty, then I might send them to private school. If I sent my kid to a private school and he's ****ing up, he's wasting my money.
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#65
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Basically describes my town's high school.


Ethnicity =/= diversity. There was only about 5 black kids at my school. What diversity can mean, as in the point I was making, is the diversity of people from different walks of life in terms of social standing, wealth, intelligence and family background.
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#66
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I went to a private school until I was 10. My parents felt it was a complete waste of money and today I can honestly say I felt no benefit from it.

Furthermore...

I know a girl who goes to my course who went to private school and she told me she got an A in History class, but she doesn't know who Hitler is.

Yeah. She saw an old picture of a guy with a moustache and said that was Hitler. She was not trying to be funny. She was dead serious.

So yeah. Private schools. Not even once.

EDIT: If I really did want to put my kids somewhere "highly academically to improve their outlooks for the future" I'd go for an IB school.


Let me summarize your post for you. Just to make sure I'm getting the gist of it.

I met a dumb girl who went to one specific private school and got an A in a subject she knew nothing about
Having full faith in her, knowing that she wasn't lying, I now know that all private schools teach no one anything, are vastly inferior on the whole to public schools, and are generally a joke and menace to society



Nah they're not that bad. I'm sure there are some shitty ones... but I can guarantee you there are thousands more shitty public schools.

I don't understand why I go to one though. The public schools in my area are really nice...

#67
I went to one of the top public school systems in the country, so if my kid attended that, there'd be no need for private schooling.

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#68
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Ethnicity =/= diversity. There was only about 5 black kids at my school. What diversity can mean, as in the point I was making, is the diversity of people from different walks of life in terms of social standing, wealth, intelligence and family background.

Still doesn't mean it's like that for everyone. There are dozens of public schools fairly close to me. I guarantee almost all kids came from the same social background at the one closest school to me. Almost all white middle/upper middle class

If anything the one private school I almost went to was way more diverse since it accepted kids from all over the country and many students from different countries.
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#69
Exactly, in depends on your zoning... maybe if you happen to live in a 20 mile melting pot of culture, your public school is like that. But if the area all around is the same socio-economic level then NOPE all the same.

#70
Yeah, it's true. I live in rural Gloucestershire, in a big state school about 1600 pupils, and there's probably 4 black kids and about 10 asians? It's less diverse ethnically than many private schools, I'm sure.
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Still doesn't mean it's like that for everyone. There are dozens of public schools fairly close to me. I guarantee almost all kids came from the same social background at the one closest school to me. Almost all white middle/upper middle class

If anything the one private school I almost went to was way more diverse since it accepted kids from all over the country and many students from different countries.


I guess I just live in a country where the wealthy and the not so wealthy aren't as heavily segregated. I went to school with people from millionaire families and people from families who had never worked a day in their life. People living cheek by jowl innit bruva.
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#72
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I guess I just live in a country where the wealthy and the not so wealthy aren't as heavily segregated. I went to school with people from millionaire families and people from families who had never worked a day in their life. People living cheek by jowl innit bruva.

Oh yea. I mean, I'm sure there are tons of diverse schools around if you go closer to the city and stuff where there are way more people. I'm just saying that it's not like that at absolutely every school
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#73
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Oh yea. I mean, I'm sure there are tons of diverse schools around if you go closer to the city and stuff where there are way more people. I'm just saying that it's not like that at absolutely every school

It tends to be the suburban or rural schools that aren't diverse. Although, there are certain areas of most cities that don't have diverse schools either. For instance, the schools in North Minneapolis (an area within a hour's drive of me) are filled with 90% poor people.
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#74
lol @ people with one bad private school experience and think all are bad
lol @ public school plebs who think all private schools are bad
Do your research before going to school. There are good private and public schools, as well as bad schools. Also, behavior is largely dependent on parenting, not the school.
#75
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I went to a private school for a few years.

I guess it depends on how my kid is. If he/she is a brat like I was, private school will shape him/her up. If he/she is highly intelligent and I feel that they aren't getting the most out of his/her current school, then I will send him/her to a private school. If he/she falls in between these two, then I won't because it's expensive as hell and if he/she is doing alright in a normal school then why bother?

You're Canadian...private schools are kind of a waste of time here.
#76
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lol @ people with one bad private school experience and think all are bad
lol @ public school plebs who think all private schools are bad
Do your research before going to school. There are good private and public schools, as well as bad schools. Also, behavior is largely dependent on parenting, not the school.


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#77
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
It tends to be the suburban or rural schools that aren't diverse. Although, there are certain areas of most cities that don't have diverse schools either. For instance, the schools in North Minneapolis (an area within a hour's drive of me) are filled with 90% poor people.


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#78
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No; I have no fixed objection to their existing in parallel with state-funded schools; and if the only state-funded schools available were rubbish, then yes.

This. The opportunities and facilities offered at some schools are incredible, if I could comfortably afford it and the local schools were not good schools then I would seriously consider paying for my child to attend a privately funded school.
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#79
Having gone to a terrible public high school and now at university feeling behind compared to many people I know – most who went to better public schools – I'd say it depends on the situation. If the choice was the school I went to or a private school, I'd probably go with private school. I'm just as smart as most people, but they have a major leg up on me as far as credits they already earned during high school. I had the opportunity to get like...6 credits in high school and I know people who are graduating college at 20/21 taking a regular class load. Not that I would have wanted to graduate that quickly, but it just shows the huge disparity between public schools.


In the end, I'd rather find a good public school.
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#80
I go to a private school and so will my kids.

In my opinion there isn't any comparison between the two.

It's like comparing Oxford Uni to a polytechnic, it's a laughable proposition
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