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I went to a state school and would not send my child to a private school.
69 42%
I went to a state school and would send my child to a private school.
45 27%
I went to a private school and would not send my child to a private school.
12 7%
I went to a private school and would send my child to a private school.
38 23%
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#81
Got nothing against the existence of private schools, and I would never rule out sending my kids to one, but what you get out of school depends on what you put into it, regardless of whether you go to a private or state school. I went to a pretty awful state school and did fine because I worked hard.
#82
Quote by digman50
It's like comparing Oxford Uni to a polytechnic, it's a laughable proposition

That's a rather arrogant and ignorant assumption.

Unless, if by private school, you mean schools like this, in which case you're a rich elitist.
#83
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
That's a rather arrogant and ignorant assumption.

Unless, if by private school, you mean schools like this, in which case you're a rich elitist.


My school's similar to that, if not nicer....
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A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.'

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#84
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
That's a rather arrogant and ignorant assumption.

Unless, if by private school, you mean schools like this, in which case you're a rich elitist.

Brah, I got you beat. Bill Cosby's son went here

That is where I got accepted to but couldn't go because of what I said earlier.
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#85
My school's older than America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromsgrove_School
'And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.'

'You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.'
#86
Quote by digman50
My school's similar to that, if not nicer....

Rich, elitist douche!

(Not like I can talk much, but at least I didn't compare private schools to fucking Oxford. You ignorant jerkface! )
#87
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Rich, elitist douche!

(Not like I can talk much, but at least I didn't compare private schools to fucking Oxford. You ignorant jerkface! )


I compared shite polytechnic universities to Oxford University.

I was saying that it was a similar comparison from state schools in my area to the school I go to.
'And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.'

'You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.'
#88
Both Pates (a grammar school) and Dean Close (a private school) are very local to me. Guess which consistently scores higher academically? Yep, it's the former.

Merit based education works far better than money based education. It is only occasionally one is both moneyed and academically meritorious.
#89
Quote by TooktheAtrain
Both Pates (a grammar school) and Dean Close (a private school) are very local to me. Guess which consistently scores higher academically? Yep, it's the former.

Merit based education works far better than money based education. It is only occasionally one is both moneyed and academically meritorious.


Dean Close isn't a very good private school...

Again, you only get out what you put in really.

All the money in the world isn't going to help if you don't do any work
'And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.'

'You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.'
Last edited by digman50 at Sep 30, 2012,
#90
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
That's what I was getting at.

Anyway, I'm all for private education, provided public education isn't as good. Even if I have to work 2-3 jobs to get my (future) kids a good education, I will.

That said, I do think there's incredible room for improvement in the education in general in the US. We're certainly not up to snuff with many other developed nations.


>assuming all private schools are like yours or this girl's

Most private schools pride themselves on academic excellence. Obviously, yours and this girl's merely paid lip service to that principle. However, most pay way more than lip service.


Could be. But from what I've seen from Private School taught students here in the UK, I'm keeping my kids well away from private schools.
#91
Quote by digman50
I compared shite polytechnic universities to Oxford University.

I was saying that it was a similar comparison from state schools in my area to the school I go to.

Which doesn't change the fact that your comparison is ridiculous.

Quote by Philip_pepper
Could be. But from what I've seen from Private School taught students here in the UK, I'm keeping my kids well away from private schools.

You and Digman should get together. You can argue about private schools, sharing your divergent experiences in the process. Hopefully, no one will have to call the cops.


The point is, assuming private schools are A) infinitely better is ignorant OR B) infinitely worse is ignorant. Personal experiences are shit, as far as proving whether a private school is better or worse than a public school.
Last edited by crazysam23_Atax at Sep 30, 2012,
#92
Quote by TooktheAtrain
Both Pates (a grammar school) and Dean Close (a private school) are very local to me. Guess which consistently scores higher academically? Yep, it's the former.

Merit based education works far better than money based education. It is only occasionally one is both moneyed and academically meritorious.


I live near-ish Pates. We get compared to it sometimes. Just lettin' ya'll know.
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#95
I went to a private school for 7 years. It was extremely fascist and corrupt. That makes me sound stupid, but it was. Any form of originality or creativity was crushed immediately. Propaganda was constantly spewed at the students. All of the faculty was related, so you couldn't inform a teacher's superiors of said teacher's shitty-ness. It was basically a totalitarian state. ****ing hated it.
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#97
I really don't think private schools should exist. The amount of money your parents have should not affect the quality of your education. In a perfect world the state would ensure equality throughout. All you end up with is private schools breeding conservative MP's with no idea how the real world works. See current british government for a fine example.


Look at it this way.(and this happens).

Child goes to (insert famous private school) Eton. Through attending Eton he makes alot of contacts which from he will more than likely end up in a "top rate" university like oxford or cambridge and will be favoured over those coming from state schools. Once he leaves university he applies for jobs ( or more than likely goes into politics like he has bee brainwashed to do) and gets accepted based purely on his education.


Is that really fair? That coming from wealthy backgrounds means you are more likely to rise to high paid jobs and be favoured over those who were state educated.
Last edited by burghUK at Sep 30, 2012,
#98
Quote by ErikLensherr
I went to private school, and I'd send my kid to private school too. .


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#99
where I grew up there are no private schools that are not run by a church/religious society, and as I don't plan to force religion on my children when the time comes I would not send them to a private school run by said institutions. In my view religion is something that needs to be discovered by the individual, and not forced upon someone (as it was on me).

given the case of a private school not run by a church, I would think about it. Would really depend on the reputation of the public schools wherever I would be living. If the education and ability to get into a better college was that high, I might send my kids there, but if the cost was outrageous or there wasn't a huge difference in test scores or something coming out of the private school, I wouldn't do it.

There is also a social aspect of public schools that many who went to private schools don't realize exists because of the "upper class bubble" they grew up in. I went to a high school where I graduated with 650 people, from superbly rich to poverty level, of all races, and it teaches you life lessons that you wouldn't learn in, say, a private school where only boys are allowed and 95% of them are from the upper class.

finally, to teach in a public school, you are constantly evaluated at much higher standards (at least in my area) than the private schools are. Since the private schools don't have to follow state regulations on teachers, at least in my area the private school teachers are much less qualified (with college degrees or whatever) to actually teach a class than the public school teachers. In my high school I had 8 teachers who had doctorates in their respective fields (mainly math and science), whereas the major local private school had mainly bachelor degree teachers.
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#100
I went to private school through high school. I don't think I can confidently say that I received a better education compared to my local public school, but then again it is a decent public school. I did receive a quality education, it put me at a good start in college, and I was not "sheltered from the real world" like some people suggest.

My overall stance would probably be: lower-quality public school = private school is worth it
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#101
No I wouldn't send my kid to a private school, mainly because of the price, and because I live in a multi cultural environment, at public schools (good ones at lest) there is more likely to be ethnic diversity (not all, but some).

I went to all decile 1 schools from kindergarten to highschool, which is basically scum, its not overly important, but seeing as though most parents in the area either both worked having little interaction with their kids, or were unemployed and didn't give two sh*ts about their kids, it does have an effect on how well the children perform in schools.

However, I was given plenty of opportunities to excel, I decided it would be in my best interests though to squander those opportunities, in favour of becoming a "musician", boy did that f*ck everything up.

There was one kid though who managed to get himself into a Malaysian robotics contest for Mars rover designs in 2004, he managed to win the competition, so I guess it really depends on the person rather than their circumstances.

Private school teachers also get paid slightly more in New Zealand, mainly becasue most of them use the old Cambridge system, whereas all public school adopted the NCEA system in 2002. They are also expected to be of a high calibre, like having 10+years experience in teaching, whereas a public school is likely to hire a 21 year old straight out of teachers college.
Last edited by beau05 at Sep 30, 2012,
#102
I would never set foot in a private school. I went to a state school, teach in a state school, and support the state system 100%. I think private schools should be banned.
#103
Quote by Mistress_Ibanez
I would never set foot in a private school. I went to a state school, teach in a state school, and support the state system 100%. I think private schools should be banned.


Why? I'm much more in favour of meritocratic education systems, rather that ones dictated by wealth, but how does removing the option help anyone?

Also, there are private schools that teach niche skills in the arts and the like which would never recieve adequate funding.
#104
Quote by Mistress_Ibanez
I would never set foot in a private school. I went to a state school, teach in a state school, and support the state system 100%. I think private schools should be banned.


Well that's pretty drastic.
#105
Quote by Mistress_Ibanez
I would never set foot in a private school. I went to a state school, teach in a state school, and support the state system 100%. I think private schools should be banned.


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#106
Quote by Thrashtastic15
You're Canadian...private schools are kind of a waste of time here.

So much this. Unless you're wanting your kid to have religious reinforcement with their education, going to a private school in Canada is pretty pointless.

As long as the school my kid goes to has a good math and upper level science teacher, I feel confident that I could help my child learn pretty much everything else from their high school curriculum.

All that said, when it comes down to it, knowing what your child wants/plans to do essentially decides where he/she goes for high school for me. If the child is interested in trades, I'd find a school with the best trades classes available, same goes if they were into health sciences, social sciences, math, etc, etc.
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All of the private schools around here are Christian. so because of that I would not send by kid to one. Unless there was one that was religiously neutral and had stats to back up the quality of their education, AND I could afford it, would I even think of sending my kid to a private school.

the public schools are pretty religious too, to be fair.

private schools are usually smaller, and have better discipline which is good. had I gone to public school life would have probably been shittier

I would probably let my kid skip the last two years of high school though, they're worthless. might as well start college prep stuff.
#108
I went to a private international school because I was a spoiled little cunt.

If I were certain that a private school would provide a better standard of education (or perhaps a friendlier environment) than state schools had to offer, then I would consider sending my hypothetical children to one.
#111
If I had the money (which I won't), and I thought it would be the best school then I would send my kid to a private school.

However, if I had the power, if I was PM/Secretary of State for Education, I would shut them down.
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#112
Quote by captaincrunk
I've actually read some Friere because of my major, and he's like 30% crackpot and 70% marxist.

the public schools are pretty religious too, to be fair.

private schools are usually smaller, and have better discipline which is good. had I gone to public school life would have probably been shittier

I would probably let my kid skip the last two years of high school though, they're worthless. might as well start college prep stuff.

I don't think so. The public schools around where I live are pretty neutral. Maybe they put up a tree or something in the lobby, but there's no bible studies classes, and the kids aren't forced to say Grace before meals and stuff. But maybe that's just the difference between Indiana and Maryland?
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#113
i went to a private school and would not send my kids to one because i won't have any kids to send there.

if i did have kids though, it would be up to them. i actually wanted to go to private school because my public school was complete shit.
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#114
There is a huge spectrum of private schools, and some state schools here are so prestigious they have paying overseas students. Whatever.
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#115
Quote by muffinduck01
I don't think so. The public schools around where I live are pretty neutral. Maybe they put up a tree or something in the lobby, but there's no bible studies classes, and the kids aren't forced to say Grace before meals and stuff. But maybe that's just the difference between Indiana and Maryland?

The catholic schools here don't make you say grace before meals. they just had a church service in the auditorium every week or whatever
#117
Quote by Hydra150
If I had the money (which I won't), and I thought it would be the best school then I would send my kid to a private school.

However, if I had the power, if I was PM/Secretary of State for Education, I would shut them down.

I don't hate Edinburgh council enough to do that to them. But that's really only because I don't live there.
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#119
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Wait. Why would you guys want to ban private schools?

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#120
I think we have like two private schools here. And this is our country's capital. Basically, private schools aren't what they're all hyped up to be, not many people really give a shit about over-inflated things like private schools over here.