#1
I hear that it's simply impossible to recieve a decent scholarship in the 2-digit thousands, and I want some advice on how to get one of those rarities.

I'm a Junior right now and I will have completed 5 AP's by the end of this year. 10 AP's by the end of Senior year.

My GPA is 3.8 unweighted and 4.3 weighted. By the end of this year, the weighted GPA will have gone up to 4.6, judging by my current performance. My SAT is a decent but kinda wobbly 2090 right now, but I'm retaking the test tomorrow and aiming for around a 2300.

For my extracurriculars, I did JV Football freshman and sophomore year. In 10th grade I competed in a tri-state chemistry competition at a state university but didn't win anything. I also do debate team and tutor Elementary schoolers for the SPEAK club. I am the 11th grade SGA secretary.

Next year and further on this year, I plan to join Marching Band as the only electric guitarist in the district and maybe play a Varsity sport. I'm also going to create the "Gallant Guitarists' Guild" (guitar club) and join the Trivia Team.

So that's about it.

What are my chances of getting a scholarship? and how can I maximize them? I mean, are there any other things that really stick out to colleges?

Also, is there any practical difference to scoring a 2300 vs a 2090 on the SAT? I don't plan to go to any Ivy League schools because I want to double major in Music and another area.
#3
Wait til this guy realizes how little high school actually matters.
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#4
I do realize that, but a high school record is practically the only thing that counts when applying to college unless you have a (very very) good community service record
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(very very) good community service record



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#6
well i guess it's a little above average because I have about 230 service hours, but it's not outstanding or anything

by good i mean like someone travelling to flood-devestated New Orleans and helping the people there for an entire month or founding a charity organization that has donated lots (over 10,000 dollars) of money to poor, underprivileged minorities

I have nothing of the sort

One biggie also, I'm ASIAN
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#7
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I do realize that, but a high school record is practically the only thing that counts when applying to college unless you have a (very very) good community service record



It depends on the college. If you want to major in music, they'll want you to be a fine musician, and marching band isn't exactly indicative of that..


One biggie also, I'm ASIAN so its gonna be harder for me than some other races



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#8
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It depends on the college. If you want to major in music, they'll want you to be a fine musician, and marching band isn't exactly indicative of that..


So what do you recommend? Our school just cancelled the jazz band this year, and only the MB remains. Being in a band? Guitar Center battle of the blues, ect?
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So what do you recommend? Our school just cancelled the jazz band this year, and only the MB remains. Being in a band? Guitar Center battle of the blues, ect?



Specify what you want to major in first. "Music" is still quite broad.
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#10
i think jazz with electrical guitar

maybe popular music, but I'm not sure whats the major difference between the two besides the fact that jazz plays more jazz

edit: performance not education
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#11
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i think jazz with electrical guitar

maybe popular music, but I'm not sure whats the major difference between the two besides the fact that jazz plays more jazz



Do you mean a music performance major?


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edit: performance not education



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#12
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i think jazz with electrical guitar

maybe popular music, but I'm not sure whats the major difference between the two besides the fact that jazz plays more jazz

edit: performance not education

Universities don't do popular music. It's too simple.

Being a jazz guitar performance major shouldn't be too hard to get into, universities take you from the bottom up, especially with music theory. Getting a music scholarship is another matter, you have to audition and prove you have the chops to warrant a scholarship. You'll have to be in ensemble for your major, they will require an audition as well.
I'm assuming you like jazz. Like, a lot. You'll have to listen and play a crap ton of it.

As far as general scholarships go, I'd say your academic and extra-curricular stuff should do you well.
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Universities don't do popular music. It's too simple.

Being a jazz guitar performance major shouldn't be too hard to get into, universities take you from the bottom up, especially with music theory. Getting a music scholarship is another matter, you have to audition and prove you have the chops to warrant a scholarship. You'll have to be in ensemble for your major, they will require an audition as well.
I'm assuming you like jazz. Like, a lot. You'll have to listen and play a crap ton of it.

As far as general scholarships go, I'd say your academic and extra-curricular stuff should do you well.


Oh yea, about that. I'm not planning to get a MUSIC scholarship, but a general "academics or something" scholarship, go to college, and double major. This path costs a lot less, and I know that I am almost certainly not getting any music scholarships (I've been playing for only 2 years, but I won't fall behind because I learn faster than most people and have been one out of two guitarists invited to my schools' MBand).

And what exactly is a "popular music major"? What do you learn in that major? 1-4-5 progressions? The science behind syncing the underlying rhythms and beats of the music so they are the most pleasing to the human brain? How to use overtones to create hidden melodies that the listener's subconscious gets "high" off of (like they do in some pop songs)?
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Oh yea, about that. I'm not planning to get a MUSIC scholarship, but a general "academics or something" scholarship, go to college, and double major. This path costs a lot less, and I know that I am almost certainly not getting any music scholarships (I've been playing for only 2 years, but I won't fall behind because I learn faster than most people and have been one out of two guitarists invited to my schools' MBand).

And what exactly is a "popular music major"? What do you learn in that major? 1-4-5 progressions? The science behind syncing the underlying rhythms and beats of the music so they are the most pleasing to the human brain? How to use overtones to create hidden melodies that the listener's subconscious gets "high" off of (like they do in some pop songs)?

Universities don't offer popular music majors. It's not musically interesting. That stuff you learn by going to LA and getting in the trenches. It's either jazz or classical if you're going to university for music.
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#17
school. yeah, sounds ****ing useless as it mostly is over here.

my advice, rob a bank, kill any witnesses, even any babies, so they don't end up like Dexter.
#18
Semi-Relevant fact: I have a better chance enrolling in university and getting a scholarship if I leave my good school and enroll in a POS shit one, then sit my exams as an external student at my real college, because of how biased the uni is against my school.

So, change schools to one full of islanders, and try not to get stabbed in the face before exams.
#19
Come from the country. Here in Melbourne, you can get paid 6000 a semester (maybe a year) just because you're smart and from the country. I think you can get paid double digits if you're top 1% of Australia and from the country.

NOTE: you get paid but still have HECS
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#21
I got 2 scholarships earlier this week because I'm going to an excavation in Brazil. I think you need to have a good purpose with the scholarship, and it helps if you're in a higher education. Doctorate's get tons of scholarship for example... master degree students, not so much in comparison, and it just gets lower the 'lower' you go.
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#23
It kind of depends on the scholarship... Talk to the schools you're interested in and see what they have to offer. Look at privately funded scholarships.
#24
idk, I just applied and they gave me a ton of money.
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#25
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the secret is to just apply for all the scholarships. all of them.


This right here.

Also, initiate/organize/lead a community service project which makes you stand out from the overachieving crowd.
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My GPA is 3.8 unweighted and 4.3 weighted. By the end of this year, the weighted GPA will have gone up to 4.6, judging by my current performance. My SAT is a decent but kinda wobbly 2090 right now, but I'm retaking the test tomorrow and aiming for around a 2300.


I thought GPA was outa 4? So is yours out of 5? 10?
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I thought GPA was outa 4? So is yours out of 5? 10?


Your GPA is all the high school courses you take. 4 = A, 3 = B, ect...

A weighted GPA is out of 5 and out of all high school courses. The difference is that for honors or AP (college level) classes, an A = 5, and B = 4, and so on.

I took several HS courses in middle school and it didn't offer any honors programs so that's why my GPA is just above a 4 right now.

It is a incontrovertible fact that it is impossible to get a WGPA of 5.0, despite what people say. The fact is that high schools require kids to take at least 1 semester of PE and multiple arts/music/extra classes in order to graduate. Those classes don't have honors. There'll never be a college level PE class; that's ridiculous! Therefore, the highest potential WGPA one can attain and graduate is a 4.85, and that's given that he takes all college level classes besides the required remedial courses. Taking into account the sheer amount of stress this puts, I would put the reasonable potential highest GPA at around 4.7.

People say they get 5.0's because they only account for the honors courses. One non-honors course makes it impossible to get a 5 no matter how well you do.
#28
Pro tip: no one cares about your weighted GPA and might not even care about your unweighted GPA. They might be just looking at your GPA across your core classes.

All a GPA over 4 means is that you went to a school that allowed you to take AP classes and did well in them. My high school only had 2 AP classes, and I only graduated with like 12 or 15 credits. I have friends from other schools cross town who started college with 30-40 credits, and I have cousins who are sophomores in high school who have like 4.6ish GPAs and a bunch of college credit already.

Point is, they have to judge everyone on the same scale because some people aren't given the opportunity to get ahead in high school (something which I really resent my high school for).
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Pro tip: no one cares about your weighted GPA and might not even care about your unweighted GPA. They might be just looking at your GPA across your core classes.

All a GPA over 4 means is that you went to a school that allowed you to take AP classes and did well in them. My high school only had 2 AP classes, and I only graduated with like 12 or 15 credits. I have friends from other schools cross town who started college with 30-40 credits, and I have cousins who are sophomores in high school who have like 4.6ish GPAs and a bunch of college credit already.

Point is, they have to judge everyone on the same scale because some people aren't given the opportunity to get ahead in high school (something which I really resent my high school for).


i dont understand how you can rack up 30-40 college credits in high school. i think that's more ap classes than the collegeboard provides
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i dont understand how you can rack up 30-40 college credits in high school. i think that's more ap classes than the collegeboard provides

I'm not sure if it's what he meant, but I knew a bunch of people who took classes at community college while still in high school. I took two my senior year.
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#31
Volunteer. I got beat out on a full tuition scholarship (albeit at a community college) by a friend of mine who was a WAY worse student but had years of volunteer work under her belt.
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#32
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I'm not sure if it's what he meant, but I knew a bunch of people who took classes at community college while still in high school. I took two my senior year.


yea but 40? thats like taking 9 college courses each year in HS. Don't think thats entirely possible for the average man
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yea but 40? thats like taking 9 college courses each year in HS. Don't think thats entirely possible for the average man


Between AP classes, dual-credit, and community college, yes it's entirely possible if you go to a school that allows you to start taking AP classes early enough. I think some of the people I know took community college classes over the summer sometimes too.

Really, it's all about knowing that it's possible when you're first starting high school.
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#34
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All of that effort towards school ... and you're going into music.


I've seen far more tryhard for far less ambition.

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I loll'ed. I think Asians do well in University, there is just something about their culture though that makes everyone turn against them though. Asian people here either sit alone or cling to other Asians.


They do about as well as everyone else from what I've seen.

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yea but 40? thats like taking 9 college courses each year in HS. Don't think thats entirely possible for the average man


Each course is typically worth 3-4 credits.

I saw so many people from my high school take AP calculus and chemistry courses, get credit for the first level equivalents in uni then proceed to fail the next level course. Kinda funny actually.
#35
Quote by metal4eva_22
All of that effort towards school ... and you're going into music.



So true.
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I've seen far more tryhard for far less ambition.


They do about as well as everyone else from what I've seen.


Each course is typically worth 3-4 credits.

I saw so many people from my high school take AP calculus and chemistry courses, get credit for the first level equivalents in uni then proceed to fail the next level course. Kinda funny actually.

I would say Asians in general have a better work ethic than us "Western" students, but we have learned more how to think critically and think for ourselves.
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