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http://www.naturalnews.com/037328_Russia_GMO_Monsanto.html

Its about time some country stood up to this company and tells them no. But russians will be deprived of sweet cancer causing corn. Discuss
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I don't care as much for the cancer-causing part, its the patent-the-****-out-of-it-and-make-you-pay-for-the-seeds parts of it thats scary about Monsanto
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The company itself probably didn't knew anything about it.

I sincerely believe that the company consists of people wearing pink bunny costumes and smiling all the time.

Maybe the real patriots of the country should stand up against it's own company?
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Quote by seljer
I don't care as much for the cancer-causing part, its the patent-the-****-out-of-it-and-make-you-pay-for-the-seeds parts of it thats scary about Monsanto

That too, especailly if you don't even use there seeds tbey will still sue you into the poorhouse because bird eats corn, bird craps it out it grows into your crops 3 years pass they sue and win. That's just some of the additional scumbaggery that Monsanto does in addition to the forced repurchases every year.
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Woo-hoo...........


Remind me why people who aren't russian should care?
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while the French study looked at the effects of rats eating GM corn (and drinking trace levels of Roundup herbicide) for two years.

Clearly the cancer was caused by the corn.

since virtually all consumers who know anything about GMO would refuse to buy items labeled as containing genetically engineered ingredients.

Also, clearly a website of unbiased scientific reporting.
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Clearly the cancer was caused by the corn.


Also, clearly a website of unbiased scientific reporting.


Doesn't change the fact that the monsanto corparation is a group of the worlds biggest scumbags.
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Quote by losing battle
http://www.naturalnews.com/037328_Russia_GMO_Monsanto.html

Its about time some country stood up to this company and tells them no. But russians will be deprived of sweet cancer causing corn. Discuss


Ignorance.

Monsanto's business practices are marginal, but it's not helpful to claim stupid crap in a weak effort to bolster your case.
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Doesn't change the fact that the monsanto corparation is a group of the worlds biggest scumbags.

That is almost certainly so.

What pisses me off is a guy who is, and this is from the article:

"A natural health author and award-winning journalist with a strong interest in personal health, the environment and the power of nature to help us all heal"

trying to report about something very important, namely genetically modified food. It's not like he's without his own agenda, he makes a living off of claiming how pure nature is so wonderfully healthy for everybody. That is not science, and he should not be reporting about science.
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Quote by CoreysMonster
Clearly the cancer was caused by the corn.


Well, Roundup is a Monsanto product, and the GMOs in question have been genetically modified specifically to be resistant to Roundup. Putting Roundup on the corn isn't really an issue since the Monsanto corn that farmers grow is sprayed with it.

/watched Food, Inc. less than a week ago
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Quote by CoreysMonster
That is almost certainly so.

What pisses me off is a guy who is, and this is from the article:

"A natural health author and award-winning journalist with a strong interest in personal health, the environment and the power of nature to help us all heal"

trying to report about something very important, namely genetically modified food. It's not like he's without his own agenda, he makes a living off of claiming how pure nature is so wonderfully healthy for everybody. That is not science, and he should not be reporting about science.

By that standard reporters shouldn't report on anything but reporting.
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By that standard reporters shouldn't report on anything but reporting.

He's of the same caliber of reporters that jumps to write about how we're all going to die just because some scientist said there's a tiny chance the LHC will spawn a gigantic black hole. Nothing of value would be lost.
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I want to see your credentials or you have no right to make any of those statements.
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First it's necessary to point out what is actually modified about the corn. The corn has had a gene inserted that produces a protein that protects the plant from Roundup. Thus, farmers can use the herbicide to kill all plants other than the corn, increasing yields and leaving more soil nutrients to the corn.

This is quite an intriguing study, but remember, a single study does mean absolute proof. While it may be the most comprehensive one to date, the overwhelming majority of scientific knowledge and evidence still points strongly towards the conclusion that GM food is not any more dangerous than the rest of our food supply. If other scientists conduct this experiment and similar ones and get the same results, then there is a much more conclusive finding. But individual studies sometimes fail to properly control and consider all its variables, are subject to randomness, and can have misinterpreted results. Remember the single faster-than-light neutrino report? After others tried and failed to replicate this one provocative study, its findings were discredited. This could very likely happen to this case.

As a few others pointed out, the cancer could indeed have been caused by the herbicide and not the corn. Furthermore, as the article pointed out, it has already been in the US food supply for ten years, and as far as I know, no study has even linked it to cancer, much less produced hard evidence that the GM corn causes it.

But whatever the final verdict is, it only applies to this particular GM corn variety, NOT to GM foods as a whole. The only possible part of a GM food that could be dangerous is whatever set of genes are inserted and their corresponding proteins. The process of modifying the genome is not dangerous, and by itself does not produce a dangerous product. So, if they do conclusively link the Monsanto GM corn to tumors, they should ban ONLY crops that contain that gene, NOT all GM products.
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I want to see your credentials or you have no right to make any of those statements.

I want to see your credentials for asking for my credentials, or you have no right to ask me for any credentials.

He has all the right in the world to say whatever he wants. He's still pushing his own agenda and I wouldn't trust everything his says as fact.
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The French survery they're refering to has been widely criticized... Russia are just protecting domestic trade.
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Quote by In Vein
But whatever the final verdict is, it only applies to this particular GM corn variety, NOT to GM foods as a whole.

This needs extra emphasis.
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i have my issues with Monsanto, but apparently the French group that did the study and said the corn causes cancer had some major flaws in they way they carried out the study.
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I want to see your credentials for asking for my credentials, or you have no right to ask me for any credentials.
I didn't ask for shit, bucko. Therein lies your undoing.

He has all the right in the world to say whatever he wants. He's still pushing his own agenda and I wouldn't trust everything his says as fact.

And yeah, that's kind of a given.
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There should be a law requiring all news articles on scientific matters to draw their information from a top 15 scientific journal.
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The French survery they're refering to has been widely criticized... Russia are just protecting domestic trade.

Damn those snooty French survers!
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The EU rejected the study.


That said, I'm not really a fan of Monsanto.
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Quote by daytripper75
The EU rejected the study.


That said, I'm not really a fan of Monsanto.


I don't even know who Monsanto are.

It's not like they are responsible for growing grain prices are they ?
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I don't even know who Monsanto are.

It's not like they are responsible for growing grain prices are they ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

And no. Blame that on the lunacy of bio fuel and the mean streak of mother nature.
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Fun fact: Monsanto was the maker of Agent Orange.

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I don't even know who Monsanto are.

It's not like they are responsible for growing grain prices are they ?


They were the company behind agent orange and behind all the genetically modified foods today. They're sorta like the Umbrella Corporation, but like food.
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#32
Quote by losing battle


Its about time some country stood up to this company and tells them no.


It's not the first country to do so, there has been alot of controversy regarding Monsanto in India for decades.

This documentary is fairly unsettling. Monsanto are a ruthless company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1A31gCeOA4

EDIT: I've seen people posting articles from that NaturalNews site quite abit lately and it shouldn't be hard to tell that everything on there should be taken with a grain of salt.

DOUBLEEDIT: Also Monsanto have had influence on test outcomes in the past.
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wooooo go Russia
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Lots of stuff causes cancer and we don't ban them. Example: cigarettes.
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