#1
I've been looking at 8 string guitars recently and I'm wondering if it's worth getting one.

Basically I'm in a band which uses C# standard and Drop B with 6 strings, but I also want to have a solo project where I play all the instruments, only problem is separating the sound from my band. For my solo project I want to create brutal death metal but I want to make it different to hopefully inspire me.

I know a lot of Djent artists/bands use 8 strings but I don't know of many death metal bands that use them. Miseration used 8 strings on their newest album 'Tragedy Has Spoken' and I think it has inspired me.

So what 8 strings do you recommend I take a look at? I've played one before and I definatly enjoyed it. I just want to do something different to what I am at the moment!

My budget is under £600, I am willing to go 2nd hand, I live in Hertfordshire in the UK.
#2
I have a Schecter damien elite 8, cost me £550 new including a case! I tried out some Ibanez and an ESP first before I settled on the Schecter and there wasn't really a contest for me, but you might have a different taste in guitars so your best bet is to go and try some. There's a chain called PMT (Professional Music Technology). I don't know if they have a branch near you, but the one in Manchester is a giant warehouse and always has some 8 strings in.
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Quote by captainsnazz
I have a Schecter damien elite 8, cost me £550 new including a case! I tried out some Ibanez and an ESP first before I settled on the Schecter and there wasn't really a contest for me, but you might have a different taste in guitars so your best bet is to go and try some. There's a chain called PMT (Professional Music Technology). I don't know if they have a branch near you, but the one in Manchester is a giant warehouse and always has some 8 strings in.

ooOoo, the Damien Elite 8 sounds good! I owned a Schecter Omen Extreme FR before, it was a good guitar but the only thing I didn't like about it was the fact that the back of the neck was practically orange! I dunno if thats a Schecter thing lol but If it is I could probably do a custom paint job or something.

Manchester is pretty far from me so I think I'll give that a miss :/. Thanks for the reply though!
#5
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Try Agile guitars from Rondomusic.com

Hmm, these look nice but a bit far out of my price range for the UK. Thanks for recommendation though!
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oooo, I'm a big fan of ESP, this one does look good. My favourites at the moment are the Damien Elite 8, the ESP LTD H-338/H-208 and the Ibanez RGA8. Research must be done
Last edited by Afroboy267 at Oct 7, 2012,
#8
I'd stay away from the ESP 8 string. It's a normal 25.5" scale, so your F# will be all floppy and not good.
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#9
Quote by jeleopard
I'd stay away from the ESP 8 string. It's a normal 25.5" scale, so your F# will be all floppy and not good.

Oh really? I know pretty much nothing about the different scale measures (bad I know!). The Ibanez and Schecter are both 26.5", will that be sufficient?
#10
It'd make it less floppy, yes.

(Also, the Ibby RGA8 is a 27" )
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#11
Just use a thicker string...scale length doesn't have to influence your guitar choiices..

Look at In Flames, they play in drop A# and A and use 24.75'' scale lengths...
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Quote by jeleopard
It'd make it less floppy, yes.

(Also, the Ibby RGA8 is a 27" )

Ohh right, ok cool. Haha my bad!

I like the Damien Elite 8 the most so far, mainly due to the 808 pickups but the Ibanez has the dual locking system and the larger scale. If I were to get the Ibanez I would definatly replace the pickups, I've played an RGA8 before and it sounded like crap (through a good amp). I think I'll probably end up going with the Damien but will definatly wanna try it before hand.
#13
Quote by Controlpanel
Just use a thicker string...scale length doesn't have to influence your guitar choiices..

Look at In Flames, they play in drop A# and A and use 24.75'' scale lengths...

Ohh really? This is new info to me.

I actually use 11-54's on my Ibanez RGA42 which is 25" scale I think? And thats in Drop B and plays well so will scale not make that much of a difference?
#14
Quote by Afroboy267
Ohh really? This is new info to me.

I actually use 11-54's on my Ibanez RGA42 which is 25" scale I think? And thats in Drop B and plays well so will scale not make that much of a difference?


True, but thicker strings are also a little more expensive >.>
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Quote by jeleopard
True, but thicker strings are also a little more expensive >.>

That doesn't phase me really, I've got enough money for strings and stuff .

So it's Damien Elite 8 vs RGA8 vs H-338

Hmm
#16
I personally would go with the RGA8 or the Damien, with a lean towards the Damien.

With the Damien, I get a little bit shorter neck that's a little thicker than the Ibby one, but it comes with the EMG 808s. EMG 808s don't sound amazing in the bridge, but are good enough.
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#17
Quote by Afroboy267
I've been looking at 8 string guitars recently and I'm wondering if it's worth getting one.

Basically I'm in a band which uses C# standard and Drop B with 6 strings, but I also want to have a solo project where I play all the instruments, only problem is separating the sound from my band. For my solo project I want to create brutal death metal but I want to make it different to hopefully inspire me.

I know a lot of Djent artists/bands use 8 strings but I don't know of many death metal bands that use them. Miseration used 8 strings on their newest album 'Tragedy Has Spoken' and I think it has inspired me.


You do realize that the instrument doesn't make the genre, right? Having another string will not make it easier to play brutal death metal than without. A lot of djent artists use 8 strings, but there are plenty who use 6-string guitars, too. I'm not intimately familiar with brutal death metal, but from I've heard, that characteristic guitar sound comes from heavy palm muting on chords on the bottom string. Just tuning low won't get you that sound. You can write brutal death metal in C# standard just as easily as you could in F#.
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You do realize that the instrument doesn't make the genre, right? Having another string will not make it easier to play brutal death metal than without. A lot of djent artists use 8 strings, but there are plenty who use 6-string guitars, too. I'm not intimately familiar with brutal death metal, but from I've heard, that characteristic guitar sound comes from heavy palm muting on chords on the bottom string. Just tuning low won't get you that sound. You can write brutal death metal in C# standard just as easily as you could in F#.

This is true, but it's more to do with a different approach. Whenever I play the guitars I've got at the moment all I ever seem to be able to play is stuff I play in my band anyway, whereas when I play someone elses guitar (like my friend's 7 string) I instantly get a load of new ideas, same as when I played the RGA8 in the shop. I think it could help me reach out into different playing styles.

I owned an RGA7 for a couple of weeks and I managed to get a song written and recorded that I probably wouldn't have thought of with one of my other guitars, a completely different style.
Last edited by Afroboy267 at Oct 7, 2012,
#19
Quote by jeleopard
I personally would go with the RGA8 or the Damien, with a lean towards the Damien.

With the Damien, I get a little bit shorter neck that's a little thicker than the Ibby one, but it comes with the EMG 808s. EMG 808s don't sound amazing in the bridge, but are good enough.

Yeah, ok thanks, I'll definatly keep this in mind!
#20
The H-338 is budget oriented, look at the H-308. That's a good guitar.

And I would stay very far away from the Damien. That neck heel is horrendous. If you're looking at Schecter, look at Blackjacks and Hellraisers.
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#21
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The H-338 is budget oriented, look at the H-308. That's a good guitar.

And I would stay very far away from the Damien. That neck heel is horrendous. If you're looking at Schecter, look at Blackjacks and Hellraisers.



That's assuming he wants the higher frets.
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#22
thicker strings have nnot the same feeling than lighter ones, they also dont soubnd exactly the same. There will be a difference of sound between a 26'5 and 27'. (it is sure that active pick ups are killing a bit the difference but still)
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#23
Quote by Offworld92
The H-338 is budget oriented, look at the H-308. That's a good guitar.

And I would stay very far away from the Damien. That neck heel is horrendous. If you're looking at Schecter, look at Blackjacks and Hellraisers.

To be honest I don't really want to spend over £600. So far the H-338 and Damien Elite 8 are the most apprealing to me, more so towards the H-338. I have no idea where will do both for me to try, hmmm.