DeanoM50810
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Hey guys,

I've been deciding on a quality electric guitar for Christmas around the €450-700 price range. After looking around for a bit, these ones caught my eye...

Epiphone Prophecy LP Custom Plus GX/EX (they both have different pickups, but I still want to consider both): The finish looks amazing, I suppose the 24 frets is a plus, it includes a free hard case, but you have the Gibson in the same price range too...

Ibanez S570B/S770FM (not sure which one yet): I love the body, the tremolo and the finishes it comes in, it seems like a pretty versatile guitar too. It has 24 frets too.

Gibson Les Paul Studio Faded: It's a Gibson, is it worth the extra €200 over the Epi though?

Out of these, which would be my best bet? Or which guitars would you suggest in that price range?

Keep in mind my current guitars, which are:
A Gretsch Electromatic Pro Jet (with the Bigsby)
An Aria Pro II SL ST 3, which is like a Superstrat with HSS pickup layout (a reason why I never considered Ibanez's RG range)
An Epiphone SG Special II which I don't plan on keeping

Thanks guys
Last edited by DeanoM50810 at Oct 7, 2012,
W4RP1G
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The prophecy is very different from a Gibson Studio. It should come down to which guitar suites you better.

And neither of those Ibanez will disappoint.
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Quote by W4RP1G
The prophecy is very different from a Gibson Studio. It should come down to which guitar suites you better.

And neither of those Ibanez will disappoint.


Thanks for your opinion. No Prophecy guitars are sold anywhere near me so I would have to buy it online without trying it, which is a shame.
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The Prophecy is all right. Not brilliant, but not bad. If I could make a suggestion within your price range it would most certainly be Dean Cadillac Select. It's a pretty standard guitar in terms of the hardware it offers, but it's a very fine build for the price in my opinion. The neck is just to die for if you don't intend to put on thicker strings or tune it down lower than D#.

I've been playing one for two and a half years and I don't regret buying it for a second.
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Quote by damillion
If I could make a suggestion within your price range it would most certainly be Dean Cadillac Select. It's a pretty standard guitar in terms of the hardware it offers, but it's a very fine build for the price in my opinion. The neck is just to die for if you don't intend to put on thicker strings or tune it down lower than D#.

I've been playing one for two and a half years and I don't regret buying it for a second.


Never checked that guitar before. So far it looks like nowhere in Ireland nor any website that posts to Ireland sells it, but I can always be proven wrong.
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Also, has anyone tried the Fender Blacktop Stratocaster HSH?
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The neck is just to die for if you don't intend to put on thicker strings or tune it down lower than D#.


I have a Time Capsule Cadillac I use for NST tuning- CGDAEG- with string gauges of 052, 044, 030, 016, 011, 009. Handles it just fine.
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You might see if anyone in Europe sells DBZ or Fernandes.

DBZ is Dean Zelinsky's second company, and I know Thomann had one model- a Cavallo, one of DBZ's Vs. With DBZ, he continued his pro-shredder design principles that earned Dean its shred cred early on.

Fernandes makes pretty shreddy guitars as well, and has a good reputation for quality. I may be getting one pretty soon- birthday coming up- which would make me damn happy. Been wanting a Ravelle since I first saw Reeves Gabrels and Dave Navarro using them in the 1990s.
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MM14
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With a budget like that theres nicer stuff around than deans, mexican fenders and epiphones.

Have a look around for used Gordon Smith guitars they're very good quality and made in the UK usually found in your budget range. Going used will make your money go further, Prestige MiJ Ibanez can usually be found in your price range along with other really nice guitars by Burny, Tokia, Orville etc. If Fender tickles your fancy then you may be able to find some American made things but I know that guitarguitar have a 51 Pawn shop that is well within your budget.

Telling us what type of music you want to use this guitar for would help us out
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Iv'e played the blacktop strat. I like it. Personally, i would prefer a HSS setup because i like single coils more, but thats just me.
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Thomann has some Godin Sessions in your price range with a HSS configuration.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/search.html?xsid=329f8d59999f41aa0c18d107c81e537f&sw=Electric&bn=Godin&gk=GI&pv=&pb=&ls=100&oa=pra

As I recall, the next step up in quality for a HSS comfigured Godin is the Velocity model, but Thomann doesn't seem to carry them. You might want to look for a Velocity elsewhere.

There is also this G&L Tribute:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/gl_tribute_legacy_hb_standard_bk.htm
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Oct 8, 2012,
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Quote by MM14

Telling us what type of music you want to use this guitar for would help us out


Ah, yeah, I should have said that.

I hope on getting a guitar that's good at what the Pro Jet can't do (as good).
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Which country do you live in? This would make it easier fo us to find you good deals

(I'll also need your mother's maiden name and you credit card details)
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Quote by MM14
Which country do you live in? This would make it easier fo us to find you good deals

(I'll also need your mother's maiden name and you credit card details)


Very funny

I live in Ireland by the way.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz


I did some further research on that guitar, and I'm impressed. I'll consider it from now on. Thanks for helping out
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A quick look around would indicate a few good guitars that aren't Gretsch like:
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dannyalcatraz
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I'm surprised to see that Patrick Eggle for that price.

FYI, he stopped making them for a while, but recently started making them again. Don't know the price of the new ones, though.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
I'm surprised to see that Patrick Eggle for that price.

FYI, he stopped making them for a while, but recently started making them again. Don't know the price of the new ones, though.

Aye not really a shred or metal type guitar but I think its still worth a look at
dannyalcatraz
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The good news is, though, that Patrick Eggle is a UK luthier- you may be able to find one of his used guitars a little closer to home.

Check out his home page so you can get a better feel of what to look for:

http://www.patrickeggleguitars.com/
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Oct 8, 2012,
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Quote by DeanoM50810
None of those ship to Ireland, which is a shame because they looked like sweet guitars

ahhh sorry I had my address plugged in to shipping
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
The good news is, though, that Patrick Eggle is a UK luthier- you may be able to find one of his used guitars a little closer to home.

Check out his home page so you can get a better feel of what to look for:

http://www.patrickeggleguitars.com/


I'll keep an eye out for them. Guitars that nice are bound to stand out anyway.

I'm beginning to change my mind on the Epiphone and the Ibanez. I'm inexperienced with changing pickups so there's little point in buying them (many have apparently changed the stock pickups to Dimarzios with the Ibanez).

Any more suggestions would be appreciated.
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I don't change pickups myself, either. I have a guitar tech I trust do the work for me. Sure, it costs a bit, but the job gets done right. Not only that, if there is something going on with your guitar that you might not notice, they'll catch it.

IOW, don't be put off a guitar because you might want to change the pickups.

That said, DON'T buy pickups to swap out until you've actually played the guitar for a while. The stock ones may just be fine.
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Oct 10, 2012,
DeanoM50810
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
I don't change pickups myself, either. I have a guitar tech I trust do the work for me. Sure, it costs a bit, but the job gets done right. Not only that, if there is something going on with your guitar that you might not notice, they'll catch it.

IOW, don't be put off a guitar because you might want to change the pickups.

That said, DON'T buy pickups to swap out until you've actually played the guitar for a while. The stock ones may just be fine.


Hmm, ok. It will be a while before I can actually try an Ibanez and get a listen of the pickups, so I'll consider my other options in the meantime. Thanks for the advice though
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Anyone have anything to say about PRS SE's? I read a thread recently that said they are the best guitars for the money in the price range. This here seems like a nice deal.

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Ex-Display-PRS-SE-Santana-Electric-Guitar-Black-Bird-Inlays-/251160530534?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a7a558e66
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I don't know those in particular, but PRS in general makes a quality guitar.
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