Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#1
So, I've been looking to get a fuzz pedal for a while now, and in my mind it was obviously going to be the Big Muff. Obvious right? Not so much now! I was trawling through the internet, looking at guitar stuffs, and then... BAM!!! My mind is blown.
Death By Audio Apocalypse pedal. I'd never even heard of this brand, or this pedal. But ****, my mind was blown. It just sounded AWESOME. And they also do Fuzz War, and this weird Robot effect. I may be sounding stupid here if everyone else has heard of these, but i hadn't. I can't find them on all my regular buying sites, but eBay as always could come to the rescue. Anyway, enough raving. It has come to my attention that these pedals are particularly sexy sounding, but it COULD just be because they played one of my favourite songs in the video. In people's opinion, is this as good as the big muff? And what are peoples opinion on the Fuzz War pedal as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlNn4M7IvlA (apocalypse)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESevU8aD6bM (fuzz war)

I had another listen to Big Muff after this and well... I just can't decide! I think its between the Muff and the Apocalypse... Cheers

(Blatant advertisement) www.facebook.com/twinparadoxofficial
joe_k
stereo amp connaisseur
Join date: Feb 2007
244 IQ
#3
I have the fuzz war and it is a great pedal. It is basically a big muff on steroids but instead of a tone knob, the knob does a little more than just cut/boost bass and treble.

the issue i have with the fuzz war is the extreme amount of output it has. It works fine with my 15W amp because it doesn't really have the headroom to hangdle all the output. In an amp with headroom, you will find that you can never make it have unity gain with your clean. The fuzz war will always be much louder than your clean tone.

the actual tone of this pedal is brillaint though. real ball busting big muff.
gumbilicious
beginner
Join date: Oct 2007
1,236 IQ
#4
death by audio is renowned for making killer fuzz pedals. if you are willing to pay the price, they will be a much better quality than a big muff.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
-ae
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#5
Quote by joe_k
I have the fuzz war and it is a great pedal. It is basically a big muff on steroids but instead of a tone knob, the knob does a little more than just cut/boost bass and treble.

the issue i have with the fuzz war is the extreme amount of output it has. It works fine with my 15W amp because it doesn't really have the headroom to hangdle all the output. In an amp with headroom, you will find that you can never make it have unity gain with your clean. The fuzz war will always be much louder than your clean tone.

the actual tone of this pedal is brillaint though. real ball busting big muff.

so, what, it works better on high volume?
seljer
UG Resident
Join date: Apr 2005
1,380 IQ
#6
Quote by Paddynbob
so, what, it works better on high volume?


though to be honest all fuzz pedals do
H4T3BR33D3R
Resident Gibson Whore
Join date: Nov 2007
2,488 IQ
#7
I like to use fuzz pedals to boost my dirty sound for that retro vibe.
Quote by Axelfox
my mom and i went to a furry con and on the second day she said she didn't come and pay money to go see dumb shit.


Quote by JustRooster
I incurred the wrath of the Association of White Knights. Specifically the Parent's Basement branch of service.
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#8
Quote by seljer
though to be honest all fuzz pedals do


so, Fuzz War > Big Muff. Where does Apocalypse come into equation?
tubetime86
I don't even play guitar.
Join date: Jul 2008
1,633 IQ
#9
That 'Dead Leaves on the Dirty Ground' rendition is really good. Love that sound. Now I want to learn that song... And buy that pedal.
Quote by Cathbard
Quote by Raijouta
Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
head-case
Registered User
Join date: Apr 2012
41 IQ
#10
I'd go for one of these pedals. Big Muffs are dissappointments.
NeverShade
Registered User
Join date: Jul 2012
199 IQ
#11
Fuzz war doesn't mix well with other effects and does have problems with the sound level, it's the best one pedal on full volume fuzz I know but a muff is much easier to use in a board
bluestratplayer
I wouldn't listen to me
Join date: Nov 2006
859 IQ
#12
I'm actually going to pick up a black arts Pharaoh fuzz soon. I like it better than the dba stuff by that's just preference. As for store check out proguitarshop.com they have all kinds of stuff to empty your wallet.
Ibanez SIR27
Pod HD500x

RIP:
Mesa Boogie Roadster 2x12 combo
Cmatmods analog chorus, phaser, tremoglo, signa drive, butah, and deeelay
walrus Audio Descent
iwannabesedated
Out There
Join date: Aug 2009
923 IQ
#13
The Death by Audio Fuzz Pedals are great, but so is the Big Muff.

Really, it's just about personal preference. They're all good.
joe_k
stereo amp connaisseur
Join date: Feb 2007
244 IQ
#14
Quote by Paddynbob
so, what, it works better on high volume?

huh?

The volume knob on it doesn't do much. the pedal is either super loud or off.

If you aren't going between clean and fuzz war in a song then its fine, you just turn down you amp to get the volume you want. If you want the clean volume to match the fuzz war volume, you are never going to be able to do it.

The fuzz war is a tweaked big muff. has it's own thing but is definately a big muff at heart.

Listen to clips or go try the pedals, if you don't care about the crazy output of the fuzz war then imo it is one of the better high gain big muffs out there. my mate had the black arts LSTR and the fuzz war was less versatile but sounded a hell of alot better. he sold it basically 2 days after he bought it.
reliablecar
Banned
Join date: Oct 2012
10 IQ
#15
Blown My Fuzzy Little Mind! Death By Audio


Fuzz war doesn't mix well with other effects and does have problems with the sound level, it's the best one pedal on full volume fuzz I know but a muff is much easier to use in a board

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

google android tablet con android
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#16
Quote by NeverShade
Fuzz war doesn't mix well with other effects and does have problems with the sound level, it's the best one pedal on full volume fuzz I know but a muff is much easier to use in a board


how would it cope recording?
Dan_5893
Interdit
Join date: Dec 2009
1,405 IQ
#17
Just dandy if you track your cleans and fuzz separately and then adjust the volumes. If you want to do a one take recording you might have some volume issues, and depending on preamps/interfaces etc you might get some clipping.
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#19
Quote by Dan_5893
Just dandy if you track your cleans and fuzz separately and then adjust the volumes. If you want to do a one take recording you might have some volume issues, and depending on preamps/interfaces etc you might get some clipping.


Quote by joe_k
What amp are you using? Big muffs definately like some amps more than others too.


Using a Blackstar HT Stage 60 combo, valve. Usually use Metal Muff distortion, but the next song we're recording would suit a more fuzzy sort of vibe
joe_k
stereo amp connaisseur
Join date: Feb 2007
244 IQ
#20
you definately won't be able to switch between clean and fuzz war without having a volume difference with that amp. You can record the clean and fuzz parts seperately though and fix the levels. you will probably have an issue with volume live though.

I think someone said the fuzz war doesn't play well with other pedals, this isn't strickly true, the only issue you will have is the high output maybe clipping at the input of the pedal. that depends on the pedal though.
ragingkitty
meow?
Join date: Jun 2008
1,727 IQ
#21
Death by Audio products aren't just great, they also tend to have some really funky features as well.

Another fuzz you should consider is the Blackout Effector Musket and the Bludderbuss.
Quote by Blompcube
it's so cool to hate Gibson, even the federal Department of Justice hates them.

( )( )
( . .) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
C('')('') signature to help him gain world domination.
Last edited by ragingkitty at Oct 9, 2012,
ChuggyMcBr00tlz
Get real noob...
Join date: Oct 2009
502 IQ
#22
That apocalypse fuzz pedal is 270.00 bucks....
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson Les Paul Studio
Fender Partscaster
Bugera 6262
Jcm900 1960A
iwannabesedated
Out There
Join date: Aug 2009
923 IQ
#23
Quote by ragingkitty
Death by Audio products aren't just great, they also tend to have some really funky features as well.

Another fuzz you should consider is the Blackout Effector Musket and the Bludderbuss.


+1 to the musket. Also consider the Way Huge Swollen Pickle.
joe_k
stereo amp connaisseur
Join date: Feb 2007
244 IQ
#24
the musket and swollen pickle compared to the fuzz war are kind of two different beasts.

the first two are sort of your regular tweakable big muffs with their own flavour.

fuzz war is a high gain big muff which can be put in the same catagory as the black arts LSTR. These are just huge all oout desturction pedals which can't do much else.

the musket and swollen pickle are great but definately better for more of a regular muff sound rather than balls to the wall.
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#25
Quote by joe_k
you definately won't be able to switch between clean and fuzz war without having a volume difference with that amp. You can record the clean and fuzz parts seperately though and fix the levels. you will probably have an issue with volume live though.

I think someone said the fuzz war doesn't play well with other pedals, this isn't strickly true, the only issue you will have is the high output maybe clipping at the input of the pedal. that depends on the pedal though.


the only on id use it at the same time as is Whammy DT would that be ok? and my decimator
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#26
Quote by ragingkitty
Death by Audio products aren't just great, they also tend to have some really funky features as well.

Another fuzz you should consider is the Blackout Effector Musket and the Bludderbuss.


they seem quite cool, just not quite as fuzzy as the War Fuzz, if you see what i mean
joe_k
stereo amp connaisseur
Join date: Feb 2007
244 IQ
#27
the whammy would probably go before it in the chain so that will be fine. the decimator on the other hand i have no idea about.
NeverShade
Registered User
Join date: Jul 2012
199 IQ
#28
My personal preference is the musket, goes great with a whammy too, watch some online demos to compare, I definitely think the fuzz war doesn't mix with other effects, can anyone name anything that sounds good with it besides an octaver?
Paddynbob
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
2,526 IQ
#29
Quote by NeverShade
My personal preference is the musket, goes great with a whammy too, watch some online demos to compare, I definitely think the fuzz war doesn't mix with other effects, can anyone name anything that sounds good with it besides an octaver?


Well, there's an octaver on my whammy DT
joe_k
stereo amp connaisseur
Join date: Feb 2007
244 IQ
#30
Quote by NeverShade
My personal preference is the musket, goes great with a whammy too, watch some online demos to compare, I definitely think the fuzz war doesn't mix with other effects, can anyone name anything that sounds good with it besides an octaver?


what effects would you use with all out balls to the wall fuzz?

i have used it with my blue sky and it was fine (the strymon input buffer is great though). I have used it with both my ad999Pro and echo park. worked better with the echo park because again, there is an input buffer which doesn't clip.

not sure what else i have tried it with but i can't think of anything that it wouldn't work with that any other big muff would have an issue with.

again, the only issue with the fuzz war is the output level. anything going before it will be fine anything going after it needs a good buffer with high headroom.
Perverockstar69
Registered User
Join date: Jul 2011
3,494 IQ
#32
Mojo Hand Colossus

Mesa Royal Atlantic
Laney LC15R
Emperor 4x12 Silver Bells
Gibson SG Standard
LTD Viper-500
Catalinbread Ottava Magus
Jim Dunlop CFH
MXR Carbon Copy
EHX Epitome
EHX Superego
Fuzz Hugger Algal Bloom
Way Huge Fat Sandwich
Dan_5893
Interdit
Join date: Dec 2009
1,405 IQ
#33
Quote by Perverockstar69
Mojo Hand Colossus


I have one, it's not as balls out as you might think. It does thick, chordy, wall of sound stuff well but for riffing it's not as saturated as the Fuzz War is.