Poll: What is your stance on abortion?
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View poll results: What is your stance on abortion?
Pro-Life
40 13%
Pro-Choice
230 73%
Pro-Catf*cking
43 14%
Voters: 313.
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#81
Quote by SGstriker
I am going to explain my stance on this, then calmly obtain a flame-shield and wear said flame-shield like a fire-retardant condom...

I am pro-life. My argument isn't religious. It isn't even really whether or not the fetus is living or not. It is simply this: Think of a special person in your life. A relative, a friend, a significant other...now think about how you'd feel if that person had been aborted. If they "never existed" in your life.

That's my view. I'm sticking to it. End of story.

280 million potential people cease to exist every time I ejaculate.
#82
Quote by SGstriker
I am going to explain my stance on this, then calmly obtain a flame-shield and wear said flame-shield like a fire-retardant condom...

I am pro-life. My argument isn't religious. It isn't even really whether or not the fetus is living or not. It is simply this: Think of a special person in your life. A relative, a friend, a significant other...now think about how you'd feel if that person had been aborted. If they "never existed" in your life.

They wouldn't be special to me and I wouldn't care.

The most evil people in history wouldn't have been born had they been aborted. We can play this hypothetical game all night. Really it's a terrible way to frame this debate.
#83
^ Yes, but I would rather live in a world with evil people, plus the people I love, than neither.

Quote by sashki
280 million potential people cease to exist every time I ejaculate.


They never came into contact with an egg, so were they really people?
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#84
Do people have a problem with abortions because the fetuses are possibly more sentient than they were as two cells?
#85
Quote by SGstriker
They never came into contact with an egg, so were they really people?

They never fully developed or properly born, so were any aborted fetuses really people?

You're entitled to your opinion, but I think there's a flaw in your logic. I could use the same argument to say that every bad person would not have existed if they had been aborted.

I believe that, for cases such as rape, abortion should be allowed. If the child is unwanted and the mother is unable to provide a decent standard of living for it, why let it suffer? I don't know biology very well, but as far as I'm concerned, an aborted fetus cannot survive as a separate organism, and therefore is not considered fully developed. Therefore, I don't have moral objections towards abortion in certain extreme cases.
#86
I am pro-life. My argument isn't religious. It isn't even really whether or not the fetus is living or not. It is simply this: Think of a special person in your life. A relative, a friend, a significant other...now think about how you'd feel if that person had been aborted. If they "never existed" in your life.


lmao. I'd rather imagine they had super powers, or something awesome. But yeah, it would suck if they were aborted as fully formed human beings with emotions and societal ties.
#87
Quote by vIsIbleNoIsE
that's pro-choice, duh

I obviously know, I'm just asking why it is not worded differently. Duh -_-
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#88
Quote by sashki
They never fully developed or properly born, so were any aborted fetuses really people?

You're entitled to your opinion, but I think there's a flaw in your logic. I could use the same argument to say that every bad person would not have existed if they had been aborted.

I believe that, for cases such as rape, abortion should be allowed. If the child is unwanted and the mother is unable to provide a decent standard of living for it, why let it suffer? I don't know biology very well, but as far as I'm concerned, an aborted fetus cannot survive as a separate organism, and therefore is not considered fully developed. Therefore, I don't have moral objections towards abortion in certain extreme cases.


I can justify abortion in cases of rape. The woman doesn't want that burden, and it wasn't her fault that it happened in the first place
Honestly, aside from my previous argument, and the fact that in general, I'm very uncomfortable with supporting the ending of a potential life, my other big reason for being against abortion is that it's an easy (and in my mind, immoral) out for people who have sex without protection and aren't smart enough to realize that that is how babies are made.
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#89
Quote by SGstriker
^ Yes, but I would rather live in a world with evil people, plus the people I love, than neither.

Do you realize how bizarre this is? If Hitler never existed, you wouldn't be "Aww man, I'm sure glad Hitler never happened." If your best friends were never born, you don't think "Aww man, I wish my friends weren't aborted." Relationships happens post-facto so you shouldn't dictate what happens beforehand.

Think of all the dozens of people you could be close with if they hadn't maybe moved away before your relationship could thrive. Do you think people moving away should be illegal? Or I guess more appropriately, people in general just shouldn't move away? This is a really weird thing on which to base your opinion on an important ethical issue.
#90
Quote by SGstriker
I can justify abortion in cases of rape. The woman doesn't want that burden, and it wasn't her fault that it happened in the first place

I have a friend that was a 'rape baby', how can you justify that? She's close with lots of people, imagine how everyone else would feel if she just never existed.
Quote by SGstriker
Honestly, aside from my previous argument, and the fact that in general, I'm very uncomfortable with supporting the ending of a potential life, my other big reason for being against abortion is that it's an easy (and in my mind, immoral) out for people who have sex without protection and aren't smart enough to realize that that is how babies are made.

Condoms fail.
#91
Quote by SGstriker
I can justify abortion in cases of rape. The woman doesn't want that burden, and it wasn't her fault that it happened in the first place
Honestly, aside from my previous argument, and the fact that in general, I'm very uncomfortable with supporting the ending of a potential life, my other big reason for being against abortion is that it's an easy (and in my mind, immoral) out for people who have sex without protection and aren't smart enough to realize that that is how babies are made.

Allowing abortion in extreme cases does not mean being okay with abortion all the time.

It should be a last resort. Contraception and birth control should be encouraged in order to make abortions less common. I don't want teenage girls to think "Oh, it's okay, I'll just get another abortion".

Also, doesn't agreeing to abortion in cases of rape effectively make you pro-choice? I thought pro-life means no abortions, under any circumstances, ever.
#92
Quote by sashki
Also, doesn't agreeing to abortion in cases of rape effectively make you pro-choice? I thought pro-life means no abortions, under any circumstances, ever.

Nah most pro-lifers make the exception in cases of rape (despite it being contradictory to the reason they're pro-life in the first place usually).
#93
Quote by SGstriker
I'm very uncomfortable with supporting the ending of a potential life



I hope you never jerk it, bro. You'd be a monster.


Wait no, you're a monster either way. They still die.
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#94
Quote by sashki
280 million potential people cease to exist every time I ejaculate.
Every time you cum you separate your sperm individually and then distribute them to 280 million women?
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

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#95
^ The only way to save those potential lives is to activate your magic swan transformer powers and go rape various queens. What's the worst thing that could happen? It's not like you're laying the seeds of a monumentally large war or anything.
#97
if you jizz in your pants on accident while you sleep are you still a murderer?
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#98
Quote by sashki
280 million potential people's code containing their DNA, which is completed once it's developing inside a woman's womb cease to exist every time I ejaculate.

FTFY
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#99
Quote by whywefight
Exactly. That's the worst argument ever. Pro-lifers argue life begins with fertilization.



Because 2 cells are so much more alive than 1? Yeah ok.
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#100
Quote by bradulator
if you jizz in your pants on accident while you sleep are you still a murderer?


just hypothetical
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#102
Quote by whywefight
1 cell is more alive then one half of a cell.



da fuq


A sperm or egg isn't 'half of a cell'.
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#103
Quote by neidnarb11890
nah, that's manslaughter.


ok good, i'll tell my friend who wanted to know
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#105
Quote by neidnarb11890
nah, that's manslaughter.
Voluntary though.

You knew that shit was dangerous.
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

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#106
Quote by whywefight
It's got half of a doubled genome, it can't naturally turn into a full organism. Not for humans, at least.



Still a cell

Still alive

Still an absurd distinction
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#108
I think it should be legal but I think it's wrong and would think less of someone if they had one.
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#109
Quote by bradulator
ok good, i'll tell my friend who wanted to know

It's okay man, we've all been there
#110
Quote by beefcake122
I think it should be legal but I think it's wrong and would think less of someone if they had one.


I understand being pro-life or pro-abortion, but this sort of behavior doesn't make any sense to me. Either having an abortion is murder, or its not. Simple.
#111
I kind of see a fetus as a person but at the same time it really isn't. I don't think I'd consider it murder but it's still ****ed up imo.
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#112
Quote by beefcake122
I kind of see a fetus as a person but at the same time it really isn't. I don't think I'd consider it murder but it's still ****ed up imo.



Why?
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#113
idk it just shows that you have no respect for life, to me anyway. Like people who just hunt for the hell of it or when my friends throw trash out of their car windows all the time.
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#114
Quote by beefcake122
idk it just shows that you have no respect for life, to me anyway. Like people who just hunt for the hell of it or when my friends throw trash out of their car windows all the time.



Does all life deserve respect? If they remove part of your liver, is that immoral?
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#115
Quote by beefcake122
idk it just shows that you have no respect for life, to me anyway. Like people who just hunt for the hell of it or when my friends throw trash out of their car windows all the time.


That's a.... different.... opinion.....
#117
Quote by StewieSwan
Does all life deserve respect? If they remove part of your liver, is that immoral?

lol no, if you're implying a fetus is nothing more than sort of a body part I disagree with that but I can see how someone could think that, even if that's not what you're saying.
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#118
A framing I would use is to imagine that you're in a burning building, and you can either rescue 30 undeveloped feteei (fetuses? no way) or a teenager that has succumbed to the smoke and passed out. You can rescue only one. I don't see it as all that superfluous, as hypothetically, the burning building is in a few crucial ways similar to being pregnant.
#119
Pro-choice. I wouldn't get an abortion unless I absolutely had to because of the health risks involved but being pro-life seems extremely hypocritical.
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#120
Quote by vIsIbleNoIsE
my cousin recently had twins and they came out all wrinkly. they poo all the time and selfishly deprive my cousin and her husband of precious sleep. and i found out that they aren't even able to see things clearly with their eyes! so i think abortions should be okay until the baby is like six months old.

(and because i know someone is going to be stupid - joke.)



I thought that was serious for a second. Oh god I got a good laugh out of that