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#41
Quote by KevinFreund
Stereotypical misunderstanding of what is really going on in America. Obama is slowly turing this country into a socialist state. That may be cool in Europe but I personally like capitalism. You can blame Bush for everything under the sun (and the media/ general public has) but the fact of the matter is that Obama has now been in office for four years and things are NOT better. All his "hope and change" has been little more then cheap talk. This voting season I will be voting for the man I believe will take my freedoms away the slowest. No candidate will ever be perfect. Everyone has their flaws. Obama included. I would like a candidate who is unapologetically constitutional. Someone who will stand up for what America was founded on. The ideals our forefathers put forth when we became a country should still be held in high regard. Not thrown away and ignored for ones personal agenda. That is NEITHER of these men. (Obama or Romney) Although out of the two I will vote for Romney because I believe he can do a better job. I realize I am definitely in the minority (on this site anyway) in this aspect but please, let's try and be civil here. Hope that sheds some light on a different way of thinking.

Kevin


Please, name one thing Obama has done to make this country more socialist.
#42
I'm probably a right-leaning libertarian; if I HAD to choose I would pick Romney (not voting), but that just doesn't sound right.
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#43
Romney clearly has more confidence in the economic side of things. People can feel it, and many will probably vote for him solely based on that.
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#44
Quote by Carnivean
Romney clearly has more confidence in the economic side of things. People can feel it, and many will probably vote for him solely based on that.


More confidence? What does that even mean? He can stand up there and confidently say he'll create 12 million jobs all he wants. Unless he actually spells out how in hell he actually plans on doing that it's not going to work.
#45
Lol, Bain owns them?!

If his record is anything he'll make millions but the machines will break down and the company go bankrupt
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#46
Quote by Guitarlord44
Can you prove any of that? Because that's all bullshit.

Nah he's pretty much telling the truth. But he's still less retarded than Romney.
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#47
Quote by iwannabesedated
More confidence? What does that even mean? He can stand up there and confidently say he'll create 12 million jobs all he wants. Unless he actually spells out how in hell he actually plans on doing that it's not going to work.


Here you go. 59 points in all. Yup, it lacks some specifics, so does Obama's. The point I was making though, is that people see Romney as more of an effective economic leader. Polls show this. And yes, he has confidence in this.. Couple Obama's shit track record with Romney's business background.. youre gonna find that Romney has some confidence there.
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#49
Quote by Carnivean
Here you go. 59 points in all. Yup, it lacks some specifics, so does Obama's. The point I was making though, is that people see Romney as more of an effective economic leader. Polls show this. And yes, he has confidence in this.. Couple Obama's shit track record with Romney's business background.. youre gonna find that Romney has some confidence there.


Near every point of that plan will be destructive to the economy.

People do not see Romney as more of an effective leader than Obama, and all the polls except Gallup and Rasmussen show that. Romney's business background consists of gutting companies and outsourcing jobs. Not really something that inspires confidence.

Obama's track record is fine. Jobs have been added in the private sector for 30 straight months and unemployment is down below 8%.

Are things fantastic? Hardly. Things suck. But they're slowly improving, and will continue to slowly improve.
#50
Quote by iwannabesedated
Near every point of that plan will be destructive to the economy.

People do not see Romney as more of an effective leader than Obama, and all the polls except Gallup and Rasmussen show that. Romney's business background consists of gutting companies and outsourcing jobs. Not really something that inspires confidence.

Obama's track record is fine. Jobs have been added in the private sector for 30 straight months and unemployment is down below 8%.

Are things fantastic? Hardly. Things suck. But they're slowly improving, and will continue to slowly improve.


Nope. The economy is weak. Very weak. Economists know this. Educated people know this. We don't want an economy where the unemployment rate keeps dropping siny because people stop trying to find work. We also dont want an economy where private sector jobs increase, but public sector jobs plummet.

Also, a quick google search shows dozens of sites/polls indicating Romney is favored on economics.
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#51
Quote by KevinFreund
*Obama is a socialist rant*


Wow crazysam you sure look stupid for aligning yourself with this guy.
#52
Quote by KevinFreund
The ideals our forefathers put forth when we became a country should still be held in high regard.

Why? Why are we constantly asked to ride the dick of a bunch of old dead slaveholders?
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I swear this guy in particular writes for the telegraph or some shit.

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#53
Quote by ErikLensherr
Why? Why are we constantly asked to ride the dick of a bunch of old dead slaveholders?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGp9P6QvMjY

you can't go there bruh, too bad Fox doesn't let you comment on their articles :p
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#54
Quote by Carnivean
Nope. The economy is weak. Very weak. Economists know this. Educated people know this. We don't want an economy where the unemployment rate keeps dropping siny because people stop trying to find work. We also dont want an economy where private sector jobs increase, but public sector jobs plummet.

Also, a quick google search shows dozens of sites/polls indicating Romney is favored on economics.


I thought that's exactly what Republicans want. Less people working for the government, more people working "real" jobs.

I'm looking at a multitude of polls right now, and while there are certainly several that have Romney with a slight edge on the economy, it's just that, a slight edge.

But those polls don't matter. Romney needs to pick up states if he wants to win the election.
#55
Quote by iwannabesedated

But those polls don't matter. Romney needs to pick up states if he wants to win the election.


Did you read the OP? That's just what he's trying to do!
#56
What you want is a steady increase in jobs in all sectors. A balance. Public sector employment has been on a steady rise for the past few decades I believe, but then it dropped off heavily in 2008-9, and has declined ever since.
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#57
This is all an elaborate ruse by those green democrats to portray Romney as a cheat.
This is completely false. Romney is no cheat.

He's a watermelon.
BEWARE THE BANANA ARMY.

I SAY, I SAY, BEWARE THE BANANA ARMY.

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#58
Quote by KevinFreund
Stereotypical misunderstanding of what is really going on in America. Obama is slowly turing this country into a socialist state. That may be cool in Europe but I personally like capitalism. You can blame Bush for everything under the sun (and the media/ general public has) but the fact of the matter is that Obama has now been in office for four years and things are NOT better. All his "hope and change" has been little more then cheap talk. This voting season I will be voting for the man I believe will take my freedoms away the slowest. No candidate will ever be perfect. Everyone has their flaws. Obama included. I would like a candidate who is unapologetically constitutional. Someone who will stand up for what America was founded on. The ideals our forefathers put forth when we became a country should still be held in high regard. Not thrown away and ignored for ones personal agenda. That is NEITHER of these men. (Obama or Romney) Although out of the two I will vote for Romney because I believe he can do a better job. I realize I am definitely in the minority (on this site anyway) in this aspect but please, let's try and be civil here. Hope that sheds some light on a different way of thinking.

Kevin


There is no ****ing way you're serious.
#59
Quote by Mudmen190
Did you read the OP? That's just what he's trying to do!



Chuckled heartily.

I'm not comfortable voting for EITHER candidate.

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There is no ****ing way you're serious.

*archer*

Don't engage him.
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#61
''Tagg'' lol

... What an original, yet typically stupid american name to give to your kid. Next up some guy is naming his kid Rover or Marmaduke or something.


But yeah this just spells out the sketchiness in the entire american voting system. Candidates being showered with money for support, a republican's son owns voting machines. What's next, a democrat who owns the printing company making out the voter cards? Probably. Face it guys, there's now winning. It's all locked in a two party system and you'll get ****ed either way.
#62
Quote by metalblaster
''Tagg'' lol

... What an original, yet typically stupid american name to give to your kid. Next up some guy is naming his kid Rover or Marmaduke or something.

I have no idea what you mean by that. "Mitt" and "Tagg" are both pretty out there as far as names go.
#63
Quote by W4RP1G
I have no idea what you mean by that. "Mitt" and "Tagg" are both pretty out there as far as names go.

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#64
Quote by metalblaster
only in the US of A. Loud and proud.

I'm in the USA and I'm saying that I don't see names like that very often. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard "Tagg" until this article.

Now you want traditional American names, biblical names are pretty played out. And so are Mexican names these.
#65
Well that's not suspicious or anything...


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So this is illegal...

It'd be unacceptable in a real country.
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#66
Quote by Carnivean
What you want is a steady increase in jobs in all sectors. A balance. Public sector employment has been on a steady rise for the past few decades I believe, but then it dropped off heavily in 2008-9, and has declined ever since.

Because of all the republican-led state legislatures!
#68
Quote by ErikLensherr
Why? Why are we constantly asked to ride the dick of a bunch of old dead slaveholders?

Finally a man dares to say this out-loud. I can't for the love of everything pure and sacred figure out what about your founding fathers gives Americans such raging erections.

Yes, they were ahead of their time but that's about it. Just because something sounded smart a couple hundred years ago doesn't mean it's perfect today. I'd say it's much more realistic to look at documents like the Universal Declaration of Human Rights published in 1948 or something similar.


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#69
It's will be like in Parks and Recreation, when Leslie Knope's competitor buys the voting machines.


#71
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#73
If he does try to fix the elections through these machines I will be fucking disgusted. The voting system do decide the leader of the major world power that the US is, is shitty enough as is without further corruption
#74
Of course he's bought them in Ohio.

This is ****ign ridiculous and I can't believe it's even been allowed to happen.
#75
I feel tempted to do a negative Obama thread. Not because I don't like him, but I just feel the need for this forum to be less biased. Weeeeiiirrrrd.
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#77
Quote by Funky_Fresh91
I feel tempted to do a negative Obama thread. Not because I don't like him, but I just feel the need for this forum to be less biased. Weeeeiiirrrrd.


I didn't even want people to debate Obama vs Romney. I just thought it was shady and what other people thought.

but if we're talking economy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/ben-stein-taxes-low_n_1980540.html

I thought this was interesting. Coming from a man whose better with money than Mitt.
#78
Quote by Funky_Fresh91
I feel tempted to do a negative Obama thread. Not because I don't like him, but I just feel the need for this forum to be less biased. Weeeeiiirrrrd.

Unbiased doesn't mean "liking both guys equally"

Maybe Mitt is objectively shittier.
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#79
Quote by ErikLensherr
Unbiased doesn't mean "liking both guys equally"

Maybe Mitt is objectively shittier.


He's definitely a little bit shittier than Obama.
#80
Quote by ErikLensherr
Unbiased doesn't mean "liking both guys equally"

Maybe Mitt is objectively shittier.

That's not what I meant. More like an equally speculative thread questioning Obama's character.
I hardly know anything about american politics.
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