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staceap
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I'm thinking about selling my BC Rich Warlock because I'm not a fan of it and buying an Epiphone or two with the money I get for it. I can't help wondering about the prices of the cheaper ones compared to quality, however.

What's the general strain of thought about Epiphone guitars, the low-end models in particular? I'm thinking of perhaps getting a Les Paul Junior (one with a humbucker rather than a P-90) and a Goth Les Paul or an Explorer GT, what do people think of them? Thanks!
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As with all guitars, the low end Epiphones are cheap for a reason - they are not as good as the more expensive models.

If you can afford two cheaper Epiphones, you would be far better off simply buying one better model.

Epiphone may not even be the best choice - what is your budget, location, style etc?
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I recently went shopping for a "Beater" and thought I would be picking up either a Squire, or a Epi. Ended up with a Jay Turser for $119 OTD, and I honestly like it! It's not quit as good as my Godin, but it's not 10 times less of a guitar. And it's gorgeous.

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Epiphone is already a budget brand, so "low end" for them is something like the LP-100 or the Special II, both of which are pretty sorry guitars. Epiphone as a whole isn't bad, especially for its price point.
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I think it'd be worth getting one decent Epiphone rather than two cheaper ones.
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I got an epiphone sg special at 169$ and it sounds really good to me tbh. The only complaint I have is it's so light.
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Considering that you can get a nice LP Standard, LP Custom or G400 for under $300 used, there's really no point unless you're going out of your way to get a beater that is going to be in harm's way. The LP100 can be decent or crap depending on the guitar, and same with the G310 - both of which are bolt-ons, BTW.
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All I've ever really played of epiphone has been the low-end stuff. I realize guitars are all different, but each cheap epi I've played has been pretty bad. Fret buzz, poor tone and they feel cheap. Because, I mean, they are. For the price they charge, you're not going to get that LP sound out of a special 2.
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I would go LP Standard or better and shy away from the lesser ones.
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If you want to go that cheap then get a Agile AL-2000.
The Goths are not bad, but stay away from all the Specials, Juniors, and GT's.
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If its an Epiphone, get at least a Standard.
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^ what he said. I have a G400, a standard LP and a custom LP. I wouldnt go lower than those. Ive seen on some websites that for 600 bux you can get a lower end Gibson. Thats what I would be doing if I were stateside and had the money to spare.
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Gibson has also lowered pricing, as they're discontinuing models soon. Just saw a worn-white SG with P90's for $600 at Guitar Center. Get one good Epiphone if you can't swinore than $400 and enjoy it. Used can be a good way to pick up a nice Epiphone on the cheap.
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Don't even go for Epiphone, I tried one of their midrange models and.... Bleuuuuughhhhh
Yuck. Maybe look at a few different makes.
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What was wrong with it? What was the model?
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I have a G-400 and it is a great budget axe to mod. It has grover tuners, solid hardware and a diecent build. The pickups were pretty crap, but I put a JB in the bridge and it is my main guitar for drop tuning. I would stay away from anything cheaper from them if I were you.
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Quote by staceap
I'm thinking about selling my BC Rich Warlock because I'm not a fan of it and buying an Epiphone or two with the money I get for it. I can't help wondering about the prices of the cheaper ones compared to quality, however.

What's the general strain of thought about Epiphone guitars, the low-end models in particular? I'm thinking of perhaps getting a Les Paul Junior (one with a humbucker rather than a P-90) and a Goth Les Paul or an Explorer GT, what do people think of them? Thanks!



Mate, don't let anyone tell you Epis are shit. They are some of the best value for money guitars, and are more versatile than Gibbos. I got one to replace my BC Warbeast, never looked back. Like it equally as much as my Gibson
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Our band uses a G-400 for a backup, so sometimes I'll use it or my other band member will use it. It's completely stock. The pickups are just passable in my opinion, but the rest of the guitar is pretty solid. A great first guitar to have as you won't out grow it, the tuners are solid and it doesn't have a cheap bolt on job that looks bush league.

Oh ya, and they're super easy to find for cheap. Like $200-250 max. Ours was free haha
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Mate, don't let anyone tell you Epis are shit. They are some of the best value for money guitars, and are more versatile than Gibbos. I got one to replace my BC Warbeast, never looked back. Like it equally as much as my Gibson


Please tell me how an Epiphone is more versatile than a Gibson.

Please, enlighten me.
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Quote by Paddynbob
Mate, don't let anyone tell you Epis are shit. They are some of the best value for money guitars, and are more versatile than Gibbos. I got one to replace my BC Warbeast, never looked back. Like it equally as much as my Gibson

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Please tell me how an Epiphone is more versatile than a Gibson.

Please, enlighten me.

+1

In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?
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+1

In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?


The way this discussion is going you probably should have included a definition of objectively...

Pass on the cheap Epiphones. See sig... I had one, modded the crap out it, and still had a cheap Epiphone. It just wasn't a very playable guitar, even after extensive set-up work. I don't know what the fretboard was made of, but if it was rosewood, it was the worst ever.

I'm not completely knocking Epiphone, I'd love to have a Casino, but there are better budget guitars out there for the money.
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I play an Epiphone LP100 which I put Gibson 490T and 498R pickups into. I love that guitar.
Also I play an Epiphone Les Paul Junior which is an awesome guitar.
Id buy Gibsons but I cant afford it.
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Quote by JoeFlips
+1

In what way is a budget model with mediocre pickups more versatile than the real thing with objectively better electronics?

I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can appreciate the view; with a $300 guitar, more people are willing to mod it more, and take a risk changing pickups and other hardware, and practice things like neck shaving.

Not saying they're automatically better than a Gibson, but "more versatile" could be taken to mean "more modded," and Epiphones could certainly fit that bill.
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I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can appreciate the view; with a $300 guitar, more people are willing to mod it more, and take a risk changing pickups and other hardware, and practice things like neck shaving.

Not saying they're automatically better than a Gibson, but "more versatile" could be taken to mean "more modded," and Epiphones could certainly fit that bill.


I can agree with that, I was going with the definition of "versatile" more applying to sound than modding.
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Quote by staceap
I'm thinking about selling my BC Rich Warlock because I'm not a fan of it and buying an Epiphone or two with the money I get for it. I can't help wondering about the prices of the cheaper ones compared to quality, however.

What's the general strain of thought about Epiphone guitars, the low-end models in particular? I'm thinking of perhaps getting a Les Paul Junior (one with a humbucker rather than a P-90) and a Goth Les Paul or an Explorer GT, what do people think of them? Thanks!


Good advice so far from others.

I'd have to recommend Rondo before low end Epi's. Quite a few all mahogany set neck and neck through models for less than 200 bucks.
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I bought a Epi SG Junior for 60 USD and I'm very happy with it. Sure it is made out of plywood, but i got some really nice tone. Someone have probably swapped the pickup for a better one, but still: I like it.
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Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

I'm a snob with my 1996 Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul Standard that I had my favourite pickups put in to, but, I could tell you right now, those new Chinese made low end Epiphones, are fire wood.
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right now if your in the u.s .. your best bet is the agile 3010 series at 299 $ on certain model ... instead of the 425 $ regular price . the only difference id the graphtech bridge i believe


299 $ and you got a nice guitar for the money . better than most epiphone lower range or standard .

http://www.rondomusic.com/product5552.html


check out the other model ... the 3010 is better than the 2000 series ( ebony fretboard , better fretjob etc.. ) and for 299 .. = very nice guitar .. they usually cost 425 .
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In case anyone was interested in the 61 SG reissues Epiphone put out; Same Day Music has them, new, for $300. That's $100 less than anywhere else I've seen them, and the same price I paid for mine "blemished". Very cool guitars, pretty sweet deal. Just a heads up! I'd buy the yellow color, but my wife would probably kill me.
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Quote by LesPaulGuy514
Please tell me how an Epiphone is more versatile than a Gibson.

Please, enlighten me.


In that the burst buckers are only good for a few things, imo. Is my opinion allowed?
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Quote by Paddynbob
In that the burst buckers are only good for a few things, imo. Is my opinion allowed?


How is a burstbucker limiting? Last time I checked, you can play anything on a burst.
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I don't think it's fair to judge an entire brand from playing just one of their guitars. Every major brand produces duds - even Gibson. My Epi lp custom is a killer guitar and it's built like a tank. I've been playing out with it for nearly seven years and the only mods i've done are a set of Schallers and a JB.
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I don't think it's fair to judge an entire brand from playing just one of their guitars. Every major brand produces duds - even Gibson. My Epi lp custom is a killer guitar and it's built like a tank. I've been playing out with it for nearly seven years and the only mods i've done are a set of Schallers and a JB.


This thread isn't about the whole company though. TS is asking about the lower end models
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General consensus on low-end Epiphones?


there is NO general consensus............
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What was wrong with it? What was the model?

I didn't like the feel, it was unnatural. And the tone was a bit restricted and boring.
Just my opinion
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I didn't like the feel, it was unnatural. And the tone was a bit restricted and boring.
Just my opinion

I'm genuinely curious.

Why was it unnatural-sounding and feeling?
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Buy a cheap guitar and consider yourself lucky if you enjoy it without modifications. Sometimes, my burritos at Taco Bell are perfectly fine. Usually, I need to add plenty of sauce to make it worthwhile.
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Buy a cheap guitar and consider yourself lucky if you enjoy it without modifications. Sometimes, my burritos at Taco Bell are perfectly fine. Usually, I need to add plenty of sauce to make it worthwhile.


The difference being a cheap burrito costs you 90 cents. If you buy a cheap guitar and you hate it, you're out 200 dollars.


Furthermore, down the street I can go to a taco stand with fresh crap for 1.25. I'm probably happier I looked around first before going to Taco Bell.
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False economy.
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