#1
Hey im currently in the market for buying a new amp head, I play mainly metal sort and go for a sort of bullet for my valentine/machine head ish tone.

I was jsut wondering peoples views on the above amps.

Also before we descend into the typical bugera debate, i would ideally want peoples opinions on recent purchases or current owners of the amps. Ive heard a lot of the problems have been ironed out i jsut want to see if this is really the case?
#2
Used 5150/6505

I have a 333 and have had it for several years. I have been one of the luckier people who have bought them I have only had an input jack to replace. But I know many who have had extremely bad luck with defective ones.

The tones that you get out of a Bugera are good, but I would have a hard time to convince myself to buy another. And I like the tones of mine, but the build quality is really cheap. And for the price of a used 5150/6505 you'll get a much better amp than Bugera will ever make.
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#3
Inf4 fire extinguisher photo's.

Generally would be better to get a used Peavy, for the amount that it would cost for the amp, a set of tubes and a bias from a tech (if you don't know how to do it yourself)

Look for a used 5150/650/XXX/JSX is what I'd recommend.
#5
B4MV and Machine head both use 5150/6505's.

But to get a better sense of your options:

Budget?

Genres?

New or Used?

Home or Gig?

Closest City?

Current Gear?
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#6
Used high gain peavey. Why get a fake when the original can be had for the same price?

If you really like the sound of the 1990 then find a used jcm900, but I don't think it will suit the sounds you're after as well as a 5150.
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#7
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Used 5150/6505
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Look for a used 5150/650/XXX/JSX is what I'd recommend.
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B4MV and Machine head both use 5150/6505's.
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a 5150.

Haha I guess you have your answer!
#9
Sure there are issues reported, but Bugera will stand by their product...so rest assured.

As for the amps, they are very good amps at their price. I personally prefer the 1990 as I enjoy the sound of a JCM 900 just not the price (nor do I care much for a brand name).
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#10
You see used JCM900's sell for peanuts all the time.


Queue the fire extinguisher jokes......... 3 ... 2 ....1
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#11
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You see used JCM900's sell for peanuts all the time.


Queue the fire extinguisher jokes......... 3 ... 2 ....1


Still a bit more than I'm willing to pay.
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#12
Budget?
Around £200 - 350 for the head

Genres?

Hard Rock and Metal, As i say i really dig the Bfmv and machine head tone, I also quite like the tones of people like ZW tho

New or Used?

Either

Home or Gig?

mainly band paractice and gigs, but would be handy to be for home use too

Closest City?

Manchester UK

Current Gear?

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#13
I have had my 333XL for 4 years Giging weekly and rehearsing playing 2 bands 1 a covers and 2 original hard rock music and I HAVE NOT HAD 1 that's right nay sayers NOT 1 ISSUE and it's still kicking butt, so yeah i guess i'm also one of the lucky ones.... But you know what they say 99 people will have a good experience and you won't hear from them but one person has a bad experience and that's all people will remember....!
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#14
^ Generally what you are saying is true about how 1 bad experience does not equate to the experience with everyone.

No one said that EVERY Bugera amp dies.

I think it is safe to say that more than 1 out of 99 'high gain' Bugera amp owners have had issues. There have been several recent Infinium reports on here and the Infinium is new. The Infinium (I thought) had technology that should, on paper, reduce some of these issues.

Most all of the high gain Peavey amps are built like tanks. Depending on where you live a used one can be a far greater value. They are perfect for BFMV.

To directly answer the TS question....I'd probably go with the 6262.


[where is that damn 'chick with fire extinguisher' pic?]
#15
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You see used JCM900's sell for peanuts all the time.



Only if you live in countries where such amplifiers are relatively widespread in used market. In smaller countries like mine getting the real thing used will still cost you an arm and leg. (unless you get real lucky and find a person unaware of how much people ask about them in the interwebz) Bugera clone, even after retubejob and possible bias check, can be quite a bit less than the real thing used here.

IE with quick check I would have to pay about 650€-750€ for used Peavey 6505 head, where Bugera 6260 head is 329€ + shipping. So... there.

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#16
He's in the UK. If you could pick up a cheap JCM900 anywhere one would think that would be where.
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#17
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He's in the UK. If you could pick up a cheap JCM900 anywhere one would think that would be where.


True. Didnt think of that.

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#18
There's a Bugera amp in a glass case at their factory that has never failed... So obviously they got all their issues worked out. Duh.
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Not all Pintos blew up either. Yay, let's all go out and buy Pintos.

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#20
You have 2 Les Pauls and a Fender John 5 tele, but are only willing to drop 200-350 on an amp head?

Well, there's your problem, right there.

Do yourself a favor, save up and get a Peavey 6505, 6505+ or 6534+. If you can't find any of those, 5150's should be your second option, then the XXX and JSX should be your 3rd choice. Then, if you want to skimp out on something, you have the fortune of living in the UK, so you can grab a Harley Benton cab from Thomann and be set. They're super cheap and come with Celestion Vintage 30 speakers, which are industry standard when it comes to Hard Rock/Heavy Metal.
#21
5150s are the same as 6505. 6505+ = 5150II.
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#22
I have a really limited budget atm and have a run of gigs in like 3 weeks hence requiring a budget alternative
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#25
just to throw things open a little more i love the metal tones i talked about before, I also love the warmth in the tone of people like slash and dj ashba, i know ashba uses rec's mainly for recording,

could any of these amps acheive this kind of warm solo tone if required?
#26
Yes. Obviously for an exact Slash tone you'd want a cranked JCM800, but I think any of the amps mentioned so far would suit you better than a JCM800.
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