New Medicine
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#1
I will only go 200$ and ive decided on Scheter...Not sure why Im just set in stone dont argue...its the guitarist in me. It will be my first real guitar I hada crappy squier that was BAD for Hard rock and Metal like A7X and GNR. So

http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-SCHECTER-DAMIEN-FR--734-052712-107803796-i2542593.gc


vs.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-SCHECTOR-HELLRAISER-DAMIEN-6-107807922-i2550331.gc

vs.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-SCHECTER-C-1-STANDARD-GREAT-8-7-12-108004696-i2667811.gc


2nd looks the best but I think 3rd probably is the best overal guitar...not quite sure though what do you guys think? or all they all basically the same?
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#2
I don't know anything about Schechters but they all appear to have different pickups. Do you know what they are?
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#3
200 won't get you very far...

And really "best" is a suggestive. To me, they're all unfavorable; I don't like Schecter guitars (but their basses... yum....)
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The first and second have EMG HZ-H4/H4A i believe and the third has
Duncan Designed HB-102b/HB-101n i believe
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#5
Save up a few more $ and come back. $500 will get you A LOT of guitar in the used market.
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The second one does not have EMGs.

Honestly, get the 2nd or 3rd. Floyd Roses are kinda... obnoxious. If you know what to expect with one, go for one, but they're a headache (But VERY fun!)
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I cant save 500$ I have college coming up and other things...growing up sucks. Maybe 300$ at the best
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Maybe wait or get a job in college? Or, hell, Christmas in 2 months... Or other religious holiday....
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Haha i do have a job but still 500 is pushin it especially for what now is just a hobby no band or anything. And maybe if i just ask for a guitar and add my money to it...we'll see. Ill be back in a month and see what I got
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#10
Cause you'll need an amp too
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Even if you only save for $300, you can get way better deals. I got a Gibson Les Paul Studio for $400 used and then traded it straight up for a modded Jackson RR24. Save your cash. The pickups in all 3 guitars blow.

Look for a better deal.
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#13
Out of the three, definitely the C-1 Standard. The Damien and Hellraiser have shitty pickups for sure. On the C-1, because they're covered, there's a *slight* chance they might be something good. But even if not, they won't be worst than HZs or Schecter stocks.
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#14
Quote by New Medicine
It will be my first real guitar


No, it won't. Whilst it may be more suited to the styles of music you want to play, a $200 Schecter is not a "real" guitar compared to your old Squier. Compared to a block of wood, yes, but not a Squier.

The following advice gets dished out every time, because most of us have been through this at some stage or another and ALWAYS wished we'd listened and saved a little more:

Don't blow $200 on a non upgrade, save an extra $100-200 and go used. You'll get some superb axes for the extra $$$.
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Quote by Wesbanez
No, it won't. Whilst it may be more suited to the styles of music you want to play, a $200 Schecter is not a "real" guitar compared to your old Squier. Compared to a block of wood, yes, but not a Squier.

The following advice gets dished out every time, because most of us have been through this at some stage or another and ALWAYS wished we'd listened and saved a little more:

Don't blow $200 on a non upgrade, save an extra $100-200 and go used. You'll get some superb axes for the extra $$$.

Plus. ****ing. One.

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Of all those, I think the SCHECTER HELLRAISER DAMIEN 6 looks the best.

but it is sollely based on the look. If you have tried a shecter in the past and like the feel of it, then go for it. When you want to go the "extra miles", consider upgrading the pikcup and it will probably last you a while.

I used to have a Damien-7 with a pair of Seymour Duncan SH-8 and, even if I hated the neck, it sounded really awesome!
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Quote by New Medicine
Well I have an amp so I just need a guitar. So 300-350 used would be a good start?


Much better. Most definitely go used. You can get some AWESOME guitars for $350 used. And I mean totally KILLER!
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#20
Quote by New Medicine
Well I have an amp so I just need a guitar. So 300-350 used would be a good start?


You should get a BETTER amp. Your sound will still be shitty if you play through a shitty amp.
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#21
Quote by jeleopard
You should get a BETTER amp. Your sound will still be shitty if you play through a shitty amp.


He hasn't even mentioned what amp he has.
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True, but what are the odds?
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#23
Quote by dannyalcatraz
True, but what are the odds?


He's playing a Squier through a Splawn!


Not very good...probably a Line 6
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#24
Quote by J_W
He hasn't even mentioned what amp he has.


Looks like I confused this thread with another XD
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Quote by jeleopard
Looks like I confused this thread with another XD


There is a real good chance it's good advice here too though.
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#26
Anyway, I don't get the comotion around the amp and pickup, they're about the easyest thing to change.

And, most likely, unless you play in a band, you'd better be with an "emulator", like a Vypyr or a line 6 and you'll have plenty to play around with.

I think it's more important to find an instrument you feel comfortable with. And, eventually, grow into a new set of pickup, a nice valve amp and define your tone with this.
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#27
Have you tried Craig's List? You might be able to find something decent used, cheaper than you'd pay at a place like Guitar Center. You can probably find a 15W amp used on CL for $30-40 too.
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#28
I scored a vintage Japanese Epiphone for 100 bucks with a hardshell case. Guy didnt know what he had. Which was great for me.

Took everything I had to keep a straight face when he was telling me that Epiphones are just Gibsons that dont pass QC so the stamp the Epi name on it. I lold so hard when I got back in my truck.

TS, take your time. Play your little Squier until you got at least 300 saved. In the used world, 50 extra bucks can go along way. Especially 150 bucks. Be patient. Lurk Cragslist. And more importantly, ask the ass holes on this forum if its a good deal. Haha. We may be jerks, but we know our shit. Most of the time.
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#29
Im playing through amplitube and a set of studio headphones. Go ahead and bust on it but I love the tones I am getting. Everything else was to large or expensive for what I needed
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#30
Hey, that's basically how I started- I had a Dean Special Select EVO and a Time Capsule Cadillac played through a Korg Px4 and good headphones.

After a while of doing that, I bought a 40w Fender HRD 1x12 combo...but I still use my Korg Pandoras for practice (I now have a Px5).

The point is, though, you won't notice a significant difference in tonal quality playing through your device or a cheap amp unless you MASSIVELY upgrade the guitar.

I can easily tell the tonal difference between my Deans through my Korgs, but there is more than a $1000 price gap between them. Played through my Fender, though, you can tell the difference between a $200 guitar and a $500 guitar with the same ease. The better electronics simply reveal more of true character of the instruments.
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samuraigoomba
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#31
Save a bit more. I made the mistake when I was getting into playing of just grabbing something cheap that felt okay. Yeah, that action was alright, but the tuners are garbage, the guitar has blah sound, no range and feels cheap.

If you buy another cheap guitar, even a slight upgrade (a mistake I also made, lol), it won't help. If you want a decent guitar, save up and spend the 300-400 for a good used guitar. You find some quality stuff on the used market for pretty cheap.

I have a cheap Schecter and the neck, high action and huge bolt-on piece piss me off. Have you played Schecters? You might find (as I did) that you really don't like them.