#1
Hey guys my band just released our pre prod demo of our song The Epiphany
check it out and tell me what you think!
We are a Metalcore/post-hardcore band from North NJ fresh on to the scene, our influences range from A Day To Remember to Of Mice & Men, The Devil Wears Prada, etc.
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Edit: ive been tweaking around and practicing my mixing heres a more recent clip any critic is greatly appreciated
https://soundcloud.com/nelson-martinez-21/searching-for-solace-queen-of
heres one with vocals
https://soundcloud.com/nelson-martinez-21/searching-for-solace-queen
Last edited by NelsonSFS at Jan 10, 2013,
#2
I don't listen to this style so I'm just going to give my opinion on how it sounds. And the electronic intro sounds good, big sounds and good use of the bit crusher.

If I'm honest I think the guitars in the intro are really not tight. It should be regular 16ths right? I think the rhythm guitar is rushing too much, the same goes for around 1:30. I also think the electronic break is really strange, I don't really get why it's there.

And are the drums programmed? Because they sound like it.
#3
hey thanks for the honest critic. the guitars in retrospect are a bit off but then again its pre prod but i will take that into consideration when we re record. as for the electronic break, a transition was needed and I felt like i wanted to keep the electronic feel to the song, some dig it some don't its cool, and lastly the drums are programmed, i know its obvious lol ive gotten better at it since then, with fills and making it sound more organic, but thanks again i really appreciate your input,
#4
I can never figure what what any of the subgenres are so don't know if I listen to that style of music haha.

The intro sounded ok and was well done until the guitars came in, everytime the guitars are playing different parts over eachother they sound completely out of time.

I don't like that kind of vocal style at all so cannot comment on it.

The electro bit in the middle is out of place, it doesn't fit at all.

The drums sound programmed as MaXiMuse said.

The guitars sound out of key a lot as well.

I think with a bit of work and take on board the criticisms you have will receive and this could be reworked a little bit and will sound a lot better. Also make sure the guitarists practice this together a lot with a metronome to get it very tight.

My stuff is http://soundcloud.com/eddiechance.
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#6
thanks im new to mixing and recording, so any input is greatly appreciated. I checked ur stuff Freightttrain and i must say even tho its not my usual music, i can dig it. i like the second track a lot more it seems to have more flow and interesting segments. the first track i feel it drags on a bit and is missing something either vox or some leads, but good work man keep it up!
#8
Quote by NelsonSFS
I checked ur stuff Freightttrain and i must say even tho its not my usual music, i can dig it. i like the second track a lot more it seems to have more flow and interesting segments. the first track i feel it drags on a bit and is missing something either vox or some leads, but good work man keep it up!


Thanks. I agree the first track is missing something and it's definitely the vocals as I have the lyrics written but no singer and I can't sing lol.

The biggest issue with your track is the guitars in my opinion. Did you record the guitars at the same time or seperate? If you record each guitar seperate it will be easier to line then up so they are in time with each other, but the guitarists still need a lot of practice to get it as tight as possible.
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#9
Just listened, and it's your pretty typical metalcore song, nothing too groundbreaking. I think I'd enjoy it more if the screams were a bit lower, the higher mid kind of sound feels a little forced I think? The song itself isn't bad, but I feel like a different scream (and real drums!) would make it sound a bit more enticing.
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#10
Seems like most people on here who reply on peoples home records expect things to come out as million dollar studios, I for one thing it sounds great, its not the type of music I really listen to, some of the drums sound drowned out at times and the bass doesnt always come through, but all in all Id say its good enough to get people listening, since most people only listen to music and dont analyze it! Definitally would be good enough to release as a solo demo album. Good job man
#11
Nelson,
Intro synths are cool. Death metal vocals are not my thing, so I liked the melodic singing way better (good). Instrumentally (when everything is playing at once), things are a bit muddy....but you did say it is a demo. I like the synths at ~2:10. Ending seemed abrupt. I liked some of the guitar. Please review my music at this link:

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1571779
#13
The drums have already been mentioned. Overall, this song feels like something that's been done a billion times before, maybe that's just me. The high vocals are really weak and need work, the lows are passable. Guitar work is alright, albeit quite chuggy at places. Some off notes on the cleans. Uh, the electronic part would've been cool if the song had gone on longer and it ended with it. I agree with the guy who said the productions a bit muddy, but top notch mixing isn't to be expected with something like this, so don't think about that too much. I think you're trying to fit too many different elements into one song, there's not enough repetition to make it memorable.
#14
Mix aside I enjoyed the hell out of the song, I like the synths and the vocals. The harmony vocals I enjoyed the most. I think this could be a reall killer song after some more work went into the mix. I think the core song as everything it needs.

Kicked ass...

Thanks for the crit!!!
#16
If you recorded the guitars line in to guitar rig or something they would sound wayyyyy better. The electronic/dubstep intro sound decent, but the contrast in quality between that and the rest of the song kinda creates a rift between the two sections. Pretty sick album art though. Also where in NJ are you from, I'm in North/Central Jersey too lol.

Here's a song I just finished using the guitar rig vst I was talking about:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1573521
#17
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If you recorded the guitars line in to guitar rig or something they would sound wayyyyy better. The electronic/dubstep intro sound decent, but the contrast in quality between that and the rest of the song kinda creates a rift between the two sections. Pretty sick album art though. Also where in NJ are you from, I'm in North/Central Jersey too lol.

Here's a song I just finished using the guitar rig vst I was talking about:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1573521


hey i actually use a line 6 ux2 with pod farm i just learned how to use impulses with it lol. im still trying to figure out a decent tone with it, and thanks i made the artwork myself and we are based in the essex county area btw ;P
#19
I listened to the first track. I thought the mix of electronic and teh brutalz was cool. Some of the riffs sound a little sluggish/ could be cleaned up a little bit. Growling sounds pretty good, though I couldn't hear much of the lyrics. Singing was a little pitchy. Sounds like you guys have an awesome thing going though.
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#20
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hey guys thanks for the input heres another one of our songs tell me what you think so far!
http://youtu.be/KLKiAtKl9U8?hd=1


At first, your song is not loud enough, I mean volume level. You should try to achieve better mix, because it sounds odd now. BTW, nice use of electronics, like it.
#21
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At first, your song is not loud enough, I mean volume level. You should try to achieve better mix, because it sounds odd now. BTW, nice use of electronics, like it.

Lol yea i noticed that now, i just learned how to do some minor mastering techniques like stereo enhancing and using a limiter, im goin to redo the first two songs and improve them to my newer standards, btw u have anything for me to listen to?
#22
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Lol yea i noticed that now, i just learned how to do some minor mastering techniques like stereo enhancing and using a limiter, im goin to redo the first two songs and improve them to my newer standards, btw u have anything for me to listen to?


https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1578518
Comment it, thanks
#23
like the electronics, but i feel that the guitars and other real instruments should be a lot louder in comparison when they come in. it just doesn't feel like a "drop" at the moment. if you're having getting the volume up, i'd recommned just lowering the volume on the electronics to get the right relative levels back.
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#24
I'm gonna crit the second song

The synth pad + bell is an amazing way to start. Although the intro went on for another minute. I feel like the high point of tension is the first 20 seconds. You should switch them to the part leading into where the full band comes in. That would transition better into the song, IMO. The dubstep and arp's was predictable, but unique, and I can totally imagine this playing as you guys walk out and pick up your instruments.

As for the song, its definitely growing on me the more I listen to it. The vocals were a bit of a stumbling block for me. They just sounded like they had been done in a bunch of different takes at a bunch of different times. Some stood out as really sweet (the yooooo at 1:42) or just okay 2:26-2:35. Some of the lyrics were really sick "this isn't getting any easier" etc. The singing and speaking parts slightly detracted from the song, but I'm used to full screaming so it's a personal preference.

I'm really happy with the synths in the song. The hook at 1:43 is super upbeat and the square lead with a touch of port is the perfect patch. The verse is cool with the call and response part, but I thought it could have gone twice as long. Transition into the breakdown is great (esp the industrial noises), but the next transition with the talking vocals seems uninspired. With the next riff (the one that ends "not giving up on you") I thought a guitar or synth lead line would have been a nice addition. The synths ending the song is a nice touch, but I was kinda disappointed the song was over already.

This song's right up my alley. If you wanna c4c, one of my band's songs is up online and I'd love to see what you think of it. Cheers


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#25
I'm basically going to agree with what everyone else is saying. The guitars muddy and a bit distant.

I didnt read through all the posts so sorry if I ask questions already answered but what mic's did you use, and what did you use to mix it? Also, what amps did you use? I'd hate to give tips on mic placement when the problem is at the very source. Your tone kinda reminds me of my old Ibanez Toneblaster Digital amp. Which is just naturally a bit muddy.

Also, I loved the electronic intro, but match the volume levels of that with the guitars.. it went from a perfect volume to super quiet and I originally thought something was wrong with my speakers haha.

If you wanna C4C check out my thread:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30878691#post30878691
#26
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I'm basically going to agree with what everyone else is saying. The guitars muddy and a bit distant.

I didnt read through all the posts so sorry if I ask questions already answered but what mic's did you use, and what did you use to mix it? Also, what amps did you use? I'd hate to give tips on mic placement when the problem is at the very source. Your tone kinda reminds me of my old Ibanez Toneblaster Digital amp. Which is just naturally a bit muddy.

Also, I loved the electronic intro, but match the volume levels of that with the guitars.. it went from a perfect volume to super quiet and I originally thought something was wrong with my speakers haha.

If you wanna C4C check out my thread:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30878691#post30878691

hey for mics we used an audio technica at2020 into a line 6 ux2 for the vocals the guitars are lined in and i used podfarm for the tones, im still dialing in tones for it, its tricky but ive deff improved my tone since my last few recordings, ive learned to use impulses and eq etc. and yea ive learned that the synth are pre mastered since they are sequenced so i have fixed the volume issue thanks for the crit i did yours
#27
Hey man thanks for the crit!

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Well off the bat I'll say I've never really got into the whole electronic with metalcore thing but I won't let that get in the way!

Songwise, you definitely sound like the bands you've listed - good mix of growls and cleans (which are very good!). Production only lets you down a bit as the electronic influence seems a lot louder than the metal parts but this is a demo after all. You seem good at the style you're doing so keep it up. An interesting band to see if you were performing live.