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Recently I've been spending too much time watching Hitchens interviews and debates and was wondering what your views on the guy are?

In his later life he was known to switch his opinion on the 'war on terror' and support it on many levels and argued his point very well. As someone who spends too much time on liberal internet forums I'm obviously against the war - but after hearing him debate it, my views have been changed a lot and I understand a lot of the importance for it.

He was also known to debate heavily the idea that God is not real.

Here is one debate between him and his brother, Peter Hitchens, about the above two topics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggIDnBl0zIU

tl:dr - what do you think of Christopher Hitchens?
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I prefer Chistopher Biggins

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Although I can't say I agreed with everything he's said, he always said it well and held his opinions with sincerity.

The guy tested whether water-boarding constituted torture on himself, and confirmed that it did, and does, despite his support for an* invasion of Iraq and other eccentricities. To my mind, that is a standard of integrity and commitment to truth-seeking that others in his field should aspire to.

*He supported an invasion of Iraq, not 'the' invasion of Iraq that transpired.
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He was an interesting and very smart bloke, his thinking was uniquely pragmatic yet somehow humanist as well.

Only problem I could see was that he spent most of his time as a contrarian, which seemed a bit odd to me, even if the other side had some equally decent views.
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I'm a skeptic/atheist type; on a lot of forums like the James Randi forum. Hitchens was well-thought-of in this crowd, a rational fellow and one who made his points well.
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Has anybody read his book 'Morality'? I haven't yet an it's apparently brilliant.
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Although i don't agree with him on everything, he was a good man and extremely intelligent.

And it's fun sometimes to watch him bitch slap creationists and religious nutbags.

I never read any of his books, but that's because i don't like reading...
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Interesting dude I think, I'm not sure of the war thing because I've not studied it really but he was great at religion debates
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Great man. Wonderful debater. Very articulate and well spoken.
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Quote by TooktheAtrain
Although I can't say I agreed with everything he's said, he always said it well and held his opinions with sincerity.

The guy tested whether water-boarding constituted torture on himself, and confirmed that it did, and does, despite his support for an* invasion of Iraq and other eccentricities. To my mind, that is a standard of integrity and commitment to truth-seeking that others in his field should aspire to.

*He supported an invasion of Iraq, not 'the' invasion of Iraq that transpired.


Did you watch the video? What a punk-ass bitch...16 seconds....

I've got to go with this quote...

"Torture is any experience so horrible that no-one would consider trying it out simply for the purpose of writing a Vanity Fair article about what it’s like."

Hitchens was a well-spoken (written) journalist, a drunk and a seriously flawed human being.

In short he wasn't really any different than the rest of us...
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Are you implying he wasn't capable in speech? His greatest strength IMO.

Nobody is saying he was some sort of superhuman, just a highly intellectual man with a razor sharp logic and rhetoric.
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Are you implying he wasn't capable in speech? His greatest strength IMO.

Nobody is saying he was some sort of superhuman, just a highly intellectual man with a razor sharp logic and rhetoric.


If this was to me, no, I was openly complimenting his abilities in regard to both the spoken and written word.

Still a candy-ass though...
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If this was to me, no, I was openly complimenting his abilities in regard to both the spoken and written word.

Still a candy-ass though...


Ah, misunderstood you then:

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Hitchens was a well-spoken (written) journalist, a drunk and a seriously flawed human being.


I took the added "written" as you saying he was well-spoken only in text.. which is a bit of a contradiction.

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He's an asshole and nobody should respect him.

Next question.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

His style of argument never really hit it for me like it did for a lot of people apparently. He just struck me as a very angry man with a very keen vocabulary.
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I think he was kind of pompous and overrated.

But he did go after Henry Kissinger hard. He's alright.
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The man was a credit to Cicero.
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He was an eloquent arsehole, but he was more intelligent and amiable than his brother.
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He's an asshole and nobody should respect him.

Try again, this time with a reasoned and even just somewhat intelligent response.


I'm not huge on him. I read one of his books a few years ago which was mildly enjoyable, and enjoy occasionally listening to him speak (his longer, uninterrupted talks were very enjoyable to me).

He didn't pussyfoot around his beliefs or views whatsoever, was very articulate and vocal about them with an enjoyable sharp rhetoric, was fairly witty, etc etc. There are some major stances he took that I disagree with, I don't like the types of people who tend to associate themselves with his work for the most part, and at times he could take his rhetoric a bit too far.

Regardless, I respect him and quite like him. He's the only one out of the babbys first atheist heroes that I like. I'd imagine the main offputting thing about him was his pompous asshole tendencies. As a fellow articulate pompous asshole, I don't really have too much in regards to his character to fault him with. That'd be throwing stones in a glass house. Cut from the same cloth I suppose.
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I thought he was a great debater and all the religious folk that went against him didn't stand a chance. I will say though that he did come off as arrogant and pompous, so sometimes I'd feel a little eh about him.

Good man though.
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Although i don't agree with him on everything, he was a good man and extremely intelligent.

And it's fun sometimes to watch him bitch slap creationists and religious nutbags.



This is pretty much my own opinion of him.
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Hitchens was a well-spoken (written) journalist, a drunk


Sounds perfect
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What I liked, as I kinda already mentioned, is that although I didn't agree with everything he said - he said it in such a convincing and informative manner that it made me consider and understand his viewpoint.

After all - how many people watching a debate go in with one opinion and leave with the other?

Hitchens was great at what he did because he had the ability to rationally educate people on opposing viewpoints.

And yes, he was a drunk. A pretty functional one.