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deepfat
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Right now I'm running a Crate Blackheart Little Giant for practice but with numerous stompboxes and a Vox Tonelab ST. I've been thinking that maybe I should just jettison the pedals (except for my OCD), sell the amp, the Tonelab and just get a small practice amp like a HT-1 or a Vox ACTV. Kind of go back to when I was learning with a bare bones system.

Ever get that feeling?
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#2
No.

Never enough pedals.
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innertom
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#3
Nope why not get a little practice amp and keep your pedals

Is there any reason you wanna simplify it? Is it just so there's less ****ing around setting up?
deepfat
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Quote by innertom
Nope why not get a little practice amp and keep your pedals

Is there any reason you wanna simplify it? Is it just so there's less ****ing around setting up?


Pretty much. Plus, I think my writing is suffering because I'm more worried about hammering down what I want from the pedals.
innertom
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#5
True that.
Are your pedals all on a board with a powersupply, that saves a shit tin of setting up time.
Have you tried writing on an acoustic then figuring out all your effects later.
I'd really advise you against selling off your pedals, you will end up regretting it
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#6
i hate effects... there are a few I'll use, like distortion, reverb, delay, and wah... but after that, I find most effects are just gimmicks. I do like some tremolo, especially on slow rhythm chords.
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I have a bit of an urge to sell my high end gear and get cheaper stuff (hoping to find some old copies and stuff).

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#8
I'm usually all for a simple rig; right now I'm only running a head/cab, guitar, tuner and solo boost in the loop. For what I do there's not much point using anything else since it would only cause trouble with switching issues.

That's the main thing for me; I'm pretty bad at switching anyway so having to bollock about with tapdancing on a million different things really wouldn't work for me.
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#9
I generally run a really simple rig- guitar>compressor>amp. It does everything I need at most gigs (granted, the amp is a 4 channel monster).

However, I sometimes play multiple amp rigs with various effects (usually delay, wah, compressor and chorus) with an ABY box. I don't really prefer one rig type to the other, but rather chose based on what the gig is going to require and how I'm feeling that day.

That being said, I used to be a total pedal junkie and I eventually got tired of having to tap dance because of "I need to have this chorus, this distortion and this delay for this solo" scenarios. I tend to use my effects spontaneously now days- though there are way fewer of them now. I think it all boils down to how you use your effects and how much they contribute to the core of your sound. For me, effects augment what's already there, and can therefore be removed without any issue whatsoever. I've played with other guitarists who run massive pedalboards and can hardly play without them.
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What I would say is put your essential pedals on one board, like an OD, Delay maybe, footswitch for your amp, wah pedal maybe, or whatever is essential to your sound.

On another board put your "weird" effects, or things that aren't quite essential to your sound. Flanger, volume pedal, phaser, 3 kinds of overdrives, 7 delays, etc.

Or, have a good MFX pedal for your "tour" or gigging board like an Axe-FX kind of thing, and have a "studio/home" board with all your actual pedals on it.
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I wish I could. A lot of my lead styles depend on the DL4 and those suckers break down frequently enough. Makes it a pain when you have to mess with it when you should be dropping swells for looping. I really just need more guitarists to handle that stuff, then I could simplify my pedalboard.
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I run Guitar > Tuner > Overdrive > Delay > Amp.

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I got a new Strat that has me thinking about getting rid of my other two (and they are nice Strats).
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Quote by JustRooster
I run Guitar > Tuner > Overdrive > Delay > Amp.


Drag that tuner out of there! Don't want to get any tone suck through a tuner.

I run around 7 pedals myself and my tuner is still in line sadly
Really starts to eat away at the tone with all the cables running.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
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+1

alternately you could run a loop a/b switcher type thing 6 jacks, a foot of wire, a switch, and a housing. so when you would stomp it would alternate groups of pedals.

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honestly i don't think i will ever downsize, i just get more as time passes.

as far as a lot of people who want to downsize have more on their board or more in their setup than they really use. i saw a larger home grown local band and i was on the side, and the lead guitarist literally had 10+ pedals and he didn't even use more than three or four of them all night.

i simplify when i gig, don't have all the goodies i leave at home, but i get it to do what it needs to do. nobody but people like us are going to miss hearing a chorus if you are playing on an amp with decent cleans.

if i were to be recording, i would use a lot more gear, but being that i still cant get my I/O's right for my interface ( i hate computers ) i will work on it.
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Drag that tuner out of there! Don't want to get any tone suck through a tuner.

I run around 7 pedals myself and my tuner is still in line sadly
Really starts to eat away at the tone with all the cables running.



I'm running MFD pickups. It'd have to be pretty resistant to suck my tone.

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#18
honestly i don't think i will ever downsize, i just get more as time passes.


Hi there, my name is dannyalcatraz, and I'm a gearaholic.

When I started off on electrics, I bought TWO.

I had a nearly complete collection of Line6 ToneCore pedals before I owned an amp.

I don't have all of my current collection of pedals in my chain- I don't have the floor space OR power plugs OR cables to do so.

I have actively considered getting a second OctaSwitch...


And I do not gig!
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
Hi there, my name is dannyalcatraz, and I'm a gearaholic.

When I started off on electrics, I bought TWO.

I had a nearly complete collection of Line6 ToneCore pedals before I owned an amp.

I don't have all of my current collection of pedals in my chain- I don't have the floor space OR power plugs OR cables to do so.

I have actively considered getting a second OctaSwitch...


And I do not gig!



hi my name is trashedlostfdup.

i have owned over a total of 60 guitars in the last 8 years, currently own somewhere between 18 and 21 (i don't even know for sure)

i have three full rooms. a hardy amp section and and a rapidly increasing pedal board. i also have built two amps.
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#21
Yeah, simplifying my rig has been something I've been pondering for a while.

For me to get all the tones I want, and control them the way I want, I'll need to either expand my setup, which will be expensive and difficult to transport, or shrink down to a multi effects unit. An Axe FX centered rig makes perfect sense, but I'd have to sell my current setup to finance it, and I'm not quite sure I'm ready for that.

I'd be glad to have a Spider Valve (again) for the sake of having an all-in-one unit for practice or small gigs. It may be a sacrifice in tonal quality but it's soooo much easier than carrying an entire rig around.

Anyways, those are just the things running through my mind at the moment.
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#22
not really. that'd involve having less gear.

if i gigged i could see wanting to have a small setup for handiness, but i'd still keep all the other stuff
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#23
My rig has always been simple. Only pedals I use are reverb, clean boost and and a tuner. Occasionally my Tone Bender. I'm usually pretty much straight into the amp.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
Hi there, my name is dannyalcatraz, and I'm a gearaholic.

When I started off on electrics, I bought TWO.

I had a nearly complete collection of Line6 ToneCore pedals before I owned an amp.

I don't have all of my current collection of pedals in my chain- I don't have the floor space OR power plugs OR cables to do so.

I have actively considered getting a second OctaSwitch...


And I do not gig!



Hi, I'm JustRooster, and I've owned 11 different Strats and 4 different Teles in the last 3 years. Too much trading and flipping.

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Quote by JustRooster
Hi, I'm JustRooster, and I've owned 11 different Strats and 4 different Teles in the last 3 years. Too much trading and flipping.


HOLY CRAP! And here I thought the 3 I own was too much!
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I am now down to a tube preamp and amp. Two of my heads have reverb so I sometimes use it a little bit as well. All I'm into is dimed power tubes. Everything I add just takes the edge off the sound and I want that edge. With my guitar sound, I like the corners unsanded and sharp, so to speak.

I'm glad I don't want every tone under the sun.* Those pedals can add up, cost-wise.

* I can't sound different and pull it off anyway. I only do mine, you know?
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#27
I used to have around 20-25 pedals on a board, going to an amp. I also had the footswitch and everything, and even though I could get any sound I wanted to get, I felt it was too much of a hassle.
I ended up going to guitar -> single channel amp, and that's all I use most of the time. It feels much better now, more natural, so you're not the only one I still have all my pedals in case I ever want to use them, but I haven't in a very long time.
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#28
Already did. Sold my other guitars, amps, and pedals. Since I only play at home these days, I just run my Suhr through an Eleven Rack. I have a MIDI foot controller, and a Dunlop wah.
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#29
I'm doing it right now, partly because I'm moving, partly because I've already done the whole giant-pedalboard, excessive guitar collection thing.

I've gone from [insert copy&paste list from my profile] to:
- HD147
- Octave pedal
- Talk Box
- LP DC w/P-90s
- LP
- Tele
- 7-string

I think I might add a hollow or semi-hollow body, to round out the tone options. Then that will be me done for good*.


*probably not for good.
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Its just the opposite for me. started out with a simple boost, gate, amp. Now Im in the proccess of finding effects for a wierd undertone lead sound. I got an idea in my head but i gotta find what boxes will put it thru a cab.
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#31
I think I might add a hollow or semi-hollow body, to round out the tone options. Then that will be me done for good*.

*probably not for good.


MrFlibble will be walking along- or surfing the net- one day, and then *ZAP!!!*

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I simplified mine in September when I didn't need anything. I Velcro-ed my wireless receiver to the side of my amp head, then used a 6 inch patch cable. I think the longest cable I used for that whole thing was a 3 foot speaker cable.

Since then, my needs have changed, as the band I'm with now allows me to be more experimental/not being super gain br00tz all the time. Now my set up is Wireless receiver>Wah>Compressor>Clean Boost>TS>Amp. The cable to run pedals to amp will alter between 10 and 25 foot depending on how big the stage is.
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MrFlibble will be walking along- or surfing the net- one day, and then *ZAP!!!*

A new twangy thang will make space in his heart...
Since making that post I've already been looking at LP Juniors, Thinline Teles, Mayones, a custom Strat...
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Since making that post I've already been looking at LP Juniors, Thinline Teles, Mayones, a custom Strat...

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#35
I always have that feeling when I play through my buddies' rig. That's why I try to keep it simple as possible, my ideal rig is Guitar - Tuner - Driver - Amp, that's all I need, really.
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#38
Just did.

No peddles, smaller amp and cheaper guitar.
A bunch of stuff.
deepfat
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#39
Update: Sold all my pedals except for the OCD (Marshall in a box) and the Blackheart and picked up a Vibro Champ XD from the local shop for $150. Still have the Tonelab.

So now it's guitar>OCD>Vibro Champ

Gonna add a tuning pedal but that'll be it for a while. Really feeling rejuvenated since I've stripped down the rig. Now it's focusing on my chops and writing.
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#40
I don't like to add anything that I don't really use, since it seems like adding things just makes it harder for me to dial in my ideal tones.

I do need to get a good tuner pedal though. I keep putting that off, but it would sure make my life easier.