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#81
Quote by Carnivean
It's relevant because you just seem to be another "I'm not religious, religion is stupid, get stupid religion out of American schools, but oh yeah, let Islamist societies teach Islam in their schools, because that's totally cool" person.
I have no idea where you might have gotten that idea. I am American and I think religious studies should be taught here as well. Religion, culture, and history are all intricately interwoven and you cannot get a proper understanding of any of them unless they're examined simultaneously.

So, Islamic schools in Middle Eastern countries need to teach the religion in a scientific way, too huh?
Yes.
#82
Buddhism is a religion and Christianity is a religion and if you think it isn't then you're a loser. Philosophy is one aspect of all religions, so religions are pretty much always philosophies but philosophies are not always religions.

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Yeah, it seems absurd humour is lost on most people these days. You numpty.

Buddhism is still at the very least, religion-like; there's reverence of holy figures, you're encouraged to further the aims of the overall rulebook (or all the sutras combined) and there's still heavy emphasis on made up supernatural cop outs ie 'enlightenment', 'inner peace' and so on that require the individual to do absolutely nothing except 'beeeliiieve, maaaan'.

Wow, you should learn about how Buddhism is pragmatic and doesn't urge followers to just "beliiiieve maaanananan." It's about the practical things you can do to free yourself from the sufferings of this world and blah blah blah yada yada yada.

Like, if that's what you think Buddhism is then wow.

Quote by EE
There doesn't seem to be much to it from what you're saying, aside from some attempt to 'improve' oneself using rituals and theological mental conditioning. Religion isn't entirely how YOU'VE seen it in the media, either: Your implication that the Buddha didn't indoctrinate or lead by peace is missing out the fact that, and lets take a big example here, the entirity of Tibet was once ruled entirely by the elite monks of Tibeten Buddhism, including the current Dalai Lama, and was subjected to a fuedal state of living that was pretty much as backwards as anything in the Dark Ages. Do you honestly think that that's some sort of good? Keeping people psychologically contained much in the same way as Catholicism in the west?

If we use indoctrinate in its most basic definition, 'Teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically', any promise of eternal happiness or some kind of personal mental freedom presented as a face value is a major selling point of ANY religion, even friggin Scientology, and that seems to be the only thing Buddhism has going for it.

Everything in life is susceptible to that sort of corruption. Siddhartha didn't even force people to believe what he did. He simply taught what he did and why it worked for him and then told his followers to try it out but if it did not work, then don't do it.

Anyway, that video is still really funny and he talked about it at the beginning of his show tonight
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#84
Oh i've never seen him before.

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#85
Quote by Carnivean
It's relevant because you just seem to be another "I'm not religious, religion is stupid, get stupid religion out of American schools, but oh yeah, let Islamist societies teach Islam in their schools, because that's totally cool" person.

So, Islamic schools in Middle Eastern countries need to teach the religion in a scientific way, too huh?


As an American I don't want religious teaching taught in our schools in any way that isn't historical/cultural.

That being said, what other countries do is none of my god damn business. They weren't founded on the idea of the separation of church and state, and thus to hold them to the same standard would make one a ****ing retard.
#86
Quote by Seref
Uhh, guys... He's right. Christianity is a group term for all religions believing in Christ, but not an actual religion itself. There's thousands of religions that identify as Christian (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and the bazillion protestant religions), but Christianity in itself is not a religion.

Granted I didn't read and don't know what he's claiming, but the title is technically factual.



Wrong.
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#87
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Christianity is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings.
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#88
Quote by Hydra150
exactly, ascribe it whatever fancy names you want, but just because a progression emphasises the M6 doesnt make it Dor-
wait.
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Oh, hi, fancy meeting you here.


let's not turn this shit into pumpkin soup.

Quote by blake1221
Atheist bitchman was being such a twat with the whole taking offense at "christmas tree."


as an atheist myself (and a very, very fervent one), i am very proud that he and his group are working to get us rights and recognition in this united states of america, a country that is (supposed to be) one of the leading nations of the world (imagine that).

but sometimes, i am very displeased with the way he (and others) represent us. they represent atheism as though it were a religion, and the people who treat atheism as though it were a religion are far worse than any tight-ass roman catholic or radical muslim.

i personally enjoy christmas a lot. i couldn't give two shits about christ, and the whole holiness thing is a bunch of bullshit to me. but i don't mind calling it christmas. and i certainly do not take offense at christmas trees - that's just ridiculous. perhaps it's because i don't treat it as a religious tradition, and i see in it things of a more personal nature, so it's just a regular tradition to me. but regardless, it kind of gives us a bad name when a leader of one of our groups goes out there and bitches about how offensive christmas trees are.
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#89
Quote by bradulator
Oh i've never seen him before.

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#90
Quote by TunerAddict
As an American I don't want religious teaching taught in our schools in any way that isn't historical/cultural.

That being said, what other countries do is none of my god damn business. They weren't founded on the idea of the separation of church and state, and thus to hold them to the same standard would make one a ****ing retard.


So say this country wasnt founded on that separation. Would you be okay with religion in school (as taught as fact)?
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#91
Quote by AeolianWolf

but sometimes, i am very displeased with the way he (and others) represent us. they represent atheism as though it were a religion, and the people who treat atheism as though it were a religion are far worse than any tight-ass roman catholic or radical muslim.

i personally enjoy christmas a lot. i couldn't give two shits about christ, and the whole holiness thing is a bunch of bullshit to me. but i don't mind calling it christmas. and i certainly do not take offense at christmas trees - that's just ridiculous. perhaps it's because i don't treat it as a religious tradition, and i see in it things of a more personal nature, so it's just a regular tradition to me. but regardless, it kind of gives us a bad name when a leader of one of our groups goes out there and bitches about how offensive christmas trees are.


this christmas guy makes sense though. i mean if you were going to create a new country altogether, you'd listen to this guy on this certain issue right? i don't care about whether it's christmas or winter solstice, but i don't care about many things, and i'm actually sort of glad there are people who do, or else nothing would ever change.
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#92
Quote by AeolianWolf
but sometimes, i am very displeased with the way he (and others) represent us. they represent atheism as though it were a religion, and the people who treat atheism as though it were a religion are far worse than any tight-ass roman catholic or radical muslim.


Yeah, all though atheist jihadists and that institutionalized child-rape within atheist circles really have to stop!

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#93
It's always funny when Christians try to sound liberal and open-minded by saying something like "I'm christian, but I hate religion/organized religion."
#94
Quote by Todd Hart
Yeah, all though atheist jihadists and that institutionalized child-rape within atheist circles really have to stop!


Hitler was an atheist, Todd.
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I swear this guy in particular writes for the telegraph or some shit.

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#95
Quote by ErikLensherr
Hitler was an atheist, Todd.


i no rite and stalin and polpot and all of them ching chong commies

Hitler was a catholic
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#96
Was he really? Bleh. That sucks.
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I swear this guy in particular writes for the telegraph or some shit.

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#98
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
And, considering the different denominations and congregations and synods (etc.), that makes it an organized religion...WHOA, DUDE!...

QED, Bill O'Rielly is a fucktard!


He makes true fucktards look like MENSA candidates.

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#99
Quote by The Madcap
It's always funny when Christians try to sound liberal and open-minded by saying something like "I'm christian, but I hate religion/organized religion."


I don't see the humor in someone who sticks to their faith but still recognizes the shortcomings of their own religious institutions, and thus wants to distance themselves from it.
#100
Quote by blake1221
I don't see the humor in someone who sticks to their faith but still recognizes the shortcomings of their own religious institutions, and thus wants to distance themselves from it.
To me, it just comes off as insecurity, almost as though they think that people will assume they're stupid for being christians (and people that would are giant twats to begin with). I'd prefer an attitude of "I happen to believe this, and I'm going on with my day. If you make assumptions about me, you're an arrogant prick and I don't need to explain myself to you."
#101
That's kind of an egotistical way of looking at them, presuming their stance stems from insecurity and not from their own personal convictions.
#102
Fair enough. It's partially based on my experiences with people I've met with that attitude and what I've known of them.
#103
It's kinda like that guy we all know that claims to be bi, but we all know he's as gay as they come and it's annoying when he won't just admit it.
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#104
I'll just prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt. It makes no difference to me as to why they hold that stance, in the end.

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It's kinda like that guy we all know that claims to be bi, but we all know he's as gay as they come and it's annoying when he won't just admit it.



hahaha i get the comparison but I've never met someone like that.
#105
The worst is when Christians are like "Christianity isn't a religion because it's about a personal, one on one relationship with God."
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#106
That one, I won't back.

I mean, on one hand, it's true. It comes down to your faith and your faith alone. On the other, community is a very, very integral part of the religion.
#107
Quote by strat0blaster
For the same reason anyone would spend their time learning a system of ideas or beliefs; to feel less guilty about being a horrible person.

wut?

Why would spending even more time reading about Buddhism make me feel less guilty about my life?

If you're a person who's actually trying to LEARN something, however, it's a good idea to seek out as many different ideas as you can.
It's a good idea to seek the truth, not every single idea about something.

Or, in your case, just call something you don't know about yet a waste of time and never bother learning anything.

I've read multiple books by Thich Nhat Hanh, I feel as if I put in a good effort with Buddhism. Ironically, all Mahayana and Zen monks take 'Thich' as their "family" name or surname implying that their first family is the Buddhist community. If that doesn't smack of organized religion I don't know what does.
#108
Quote by guitarist41
I guess it depends on how you define "philosophy" and "religion"...and "Christianity".


A philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, something which religion tends to approach from a direction that involves the belief in a deity/deities. (although some, like Buddhism, don't insist on deity worship)
Religion is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, usualy, to some form of moral value.

ALL religions are essentially also philosophies.
#109
It was interesting how he used philosophy as an umbrella term with multiple religions under it: I haven't heard that one before.
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#110
Religions contain, generally, a certain philosophy. They also contain other stuff that makes them different from pure philosophy.
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#112
Quote by girlgerms007
It was interesting how he used philosophy as an umbrella term with multiple religions under it: I haven't heard that one before.


'Philosophy' is like 'post-modernist', the majority of people have no idea how to use the word correctly.
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#113
I've decided that sports is a religion.
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#114
Quote by theogonia777
I've decided that sports is a religion.

Australia decided that long ago.
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#115
Quote by willT08

It's a good idea to seek the truth, not every single idea about something.


Yes, but one needs to understand an idea before discounting it.
#116
Quote by Todd Hart
'Philosophy' is like 'post-modernist', the majority of people have no idea how to use the word correctly.

I have to give a presentation about post-modernism on Monday and I am one of those people

Yes, but one needs to understand an idea before discounting it.
Hence my reading of Thich Nhat Hanh's work.
#117
Quote by girlgerms007
Australia decided that long ago.


Australia isn't real though.
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#118
Quote by rabidguitarist


Reading the Sutras is like reading the Bible- there is a lot of stuff that you can choose to see as metaphor or reality. There are Buddhas the size of dragons that fly around on huge winged elephants, and Maras with hundreds of arms that destroy universes with their psychic powers, but this is all part of discourse that presents human nature, and vehicles to living our lives more effectively and becoming stronger and wiser.


Seems legit...
#119
Tides goes in tide goes out. There's really no other explanation than the existance of God here.
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#120
Quote by theogonia777
I've decided that sports is a religion.

Can confirm
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