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StopReadingThis
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#1
This thread was inspired by a friend of mine who said that she could not get into 1984.

A lot of people don't like this book because they say that not much really happens. I personally loved this book.

I find that action isn't really that exciting to read, and so I don't understand why people don't like a book because the character isn't fighting zombies or blowing things up. Sure, there wasn't a lot of action in 1984, but I liked it because it made me think, I suppose.

So, what makes a book good in your eyes?
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Hydra150
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#2
Paper.
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Pagan_Poetry
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#3
^ What? 1984 was brilliant. Back when I hated reading, it got me back into reading in high school. Absolutely gripping.

Pacing makes a book good. If a book calls for an in depth, 4 page description of an area, then so be it. If it doesn't, it will kill the book.
If a book calls for that kind of description and it isn't offered, same thing. Book will suck.
Of course many other things affect if a book is good or not, but, just like movies, if a book is aware of how it should be paced, then it is well made.
Joshua Garcia
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#4
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Paper.

And some letters. And maybe a number or two.
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jakesmellspoo
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#5
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Hydra150
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#6
A good writer.
And the appropriate avenues of publication.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
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#7
pitchers.
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Joshua Garcia
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#8
And a huge font so things are easier to read.
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Addonexus408
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#9
I think author has a lot to do with it. I love everything i have read by Steinbeck, Hemingway, and Hinton because the style of the individuals portrayed in their writing.
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#10
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I think author has a lot to do with it. I love everything i have read by Steinbeck, Hemingway, and Hinton because the style of the individuals portrayed in their writing.


Don't forget McCarthy. His style is just so unorthodox at times. Love it.
And Joyce. Joyce was a truly masterful writer.
crazysam23_Atax
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#11
For me, a well-developed and complex plot makes a good book.

There's way too many books that build up & up and then climax with something that amounts to "the good guy won" (and doesn't really have that good of a detailed description of the final battle, so to speak); this is especially true of the fantasy genre. However, those books that really grip are books that have a very complex and detailed plot throughout, including the ending. Tolkien is a great example of an author who understood this.

For the record, I found 1984 to be one of the best books I've ever read.
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Addonexus408
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#12
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Don't forget McCarthy. His style is just so unorthodox at times. Love it.
And Joyce. Joyce was a truly masterful writer.

No Country For Old Men was amazing, and ive been meaning to get my hands on a copy of Ulysses
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mystical_1
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#13
I enjoy a good antagonist that you'd love to reach into the book to punch in the stomach, and tension building is an art form. Tension keeps you reading.

Also, extensive research about a subject before the book is written. One of my favorite authors, Ken Roberts would research for several years before writing a single word. Even Louis L'Amour who writes westerns would actually go to the locations he would write about first. It matters.
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#16
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No Country For Old Men was amazing, and ive been meaning to get my hands on a copy of Ulysses


Do it do it do it.
It's so fucking long but you'll really feel like you've found something special just as soon as you start reading.
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#17
The perks of being a wallflower.

For me, it's felling a sense of relation to a character and "Charlie" has been the closest I've ever been to that.
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#18
One thing I really enjoy (and this pertains to any kind of storytelling) is having a villain you can be sympathetic towards. Torn loyalties make great drama. None of that 'take over the world!' bullshit.
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#19
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One thing I really enjoy (and this pertains to any kind of storytelling) is having a villain you can be sympathetic towards. Torn loyalties make great drama. None of that 'take over the world!' bullshit.


This applies to movies too.
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#20
It should have those buttons on the side that you press for sound effects, like this.



But it can't be in Russian. If I can't understand the language, there is significantly less of a chance I will finish it.

The exception is a book that was written in another language but then translated.
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#21
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This applies to movies too.



Yeah, I said that.
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#23
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necrosis1193
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#24
Concision. It doesn't need to be dry and dull, but nothing kills a good story more than being needlessly wordy. I can't tell you how many good books and stories have been killed by purple prose for me.
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#25
ITT: opinions.
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#26
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Excellently spotted. I bet you're really good at reading books.
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#27
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#28
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So, what makes a book good in your eyes?


That's the point.
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#30
Character development is the most important thing imo
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#34
relateable characters, interesting plot, and good writing.
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#35
Someone dying at the end of the first chapter

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#36
Russian and has enough pages to smother a 5 year old
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#38
not being written by Ayn Rand.
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Butt Rayge
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#40
A great story and attention to detail make the best books. Those are nothing without brilliant prosody and appropriate language skills though.

For example, I could never flaw Tolkien on his story or detail in Lord of the Rings but I don't really like the way the books are written. Peter Jackson took the story and all of Tolkien's details and made them into something (I believe to be) altogether more spectacular. (Though Peter Jackson makes movies, not books.)

On the other end of the spectrum, Douglas Adams wrote silly, absurdist stories, but the way he wrote and the way he phrased everything was ****ing brilliant. If you had given somebody else the plot of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and asked them to write it, probably wouldn't be anywhere near the standard of Adams'. The TV and movie adaptations are alright, but they employ narrators to read some of Adam's brilliant descriptions that would have been otherwise lost.
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