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#41
Quote by Whiskas
@SHaun : would it be possible for you to share your Legion settings? I saw it was a freeware so I downloaded it but I can't get any decent sound, always have these annoying high-ends...

That sounds like the symptoms of using amp sims without any cab impulses, something that I noticed it seemed to be lacking in your mix as well. Are you using an impulse loader? In LeCab I find the inbuilt highpass and lowpass filters can make it sound much more realistic and can get rid of some of those harsh sounds associated with virtual amps.
#42
That makes sense, I've always used PodFarm, it has the cab built in so I didn't realized Legion needed an impulse. Thanks

About my mix I had an impulse, do you think there's too much high-mids?
#43
Yeah, most good amp sims require a separate impulse. And even if they don't you'd be surprised at the difference it can make to disable the inbuilt one and use a separate one. I only use inbuilts for the occasional times I use Amplitube SVT for bass, and that's only because I don't have the equipment to get a good bass one and cant find any online.

I don't know it just sounded off, like when I started out and wasn't using impulses. Maybe it's just pod farm (I've never particularly liked it).
#44
He'll, I've had problems getting a good sound out of PF with Impulses...
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#45
Some nice mixes in here guys.

I'll be taking a stab at this tonight for sure, I have a setup I've been jizzing over recently (combination of LePou Lextac and Lecto sims with Catharsis/Recabinet impulses) so be great to see how it sounds in a proper mix.
#46
Hey Whiskas.

I took a couple of screen shots of the settings i used on the guitars. The two guitar tracks are pretty much the same and i posted what post processing i did too.





Hope these help.

Edit damn those pics are big any ideas on shrinkage???lol
#47
@Shornifier your new mix sounds really good now, the drums are more prominent and giving the mix more power. The kick drum is kinda sticking out a bit too much though as with my first attempt too. Overall its sounding really good man
#48
@SHaun : many thanks for sharing this, this will sure help me a lot

@shatterbox : I have some good sounding presets for when I play but they were unusable for this :/ I equalized the guitars a lot, cause the sound from PodFarm sounded so weak, but I admit I didn't spend much time on the amp & cab settings.
#49
No probs Whiskas. Are you using the metal addon for pod farm? The diamond plate recto sim is pretty decent you should try it with the guitarhacks IR's as they are quite aggressive sounding when combined. It's just a personal opinion but id go with Kefir as your IR loader for some reason i dunno why it just sounds way better than Lecab 1&2 no offence meant to Alain Lepou as his amps are stunning.

Ghacks IR pack.
http://www.guitarampmodeling.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2631&sid=4c25ac02906c94db2df09e357dfe25da

Kefir.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19655341/keFIR_v1.dll
#50
Quote by SHaun Steel
@Shornifier your new mix sounds really good now, the drums are more prominent and giving the mix more power. The kick drum is kinda sticking out a bit too much though as with my first attempt too. Overall its sounding really good man


Thanks much; I really do love a loud kick drum...

I don't mean to ask again, but quite curious about the re-amping everyone's been doing. What are you using? All the plug-ins on your screen shots are unfamiliar to me.

Looking forward to an update. Raised my eyebrows with the kick sound you came up with on your first mix - loved the thud!
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#51
Nope I don't have them yet, but I plan to buy them as soon as I have some money.

Thanks for the links and taking the time to explain everything

Btw, does someone knows of any good free plugin for drum processing?
#52
Here's a little update to my mix again. I put Alu's from Ignite amps new EQ plug on the master bus to attenuate some of the lows and bring out some highs. If you dont have any of Alu's stuff here is the link it all freeware lots of goodies to be had.

http://www.igniteamps.com/en/audio-plug-ins

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19655341/Confined%20rough%207.mp3
Last edited by SHaun Steel at Dec 6, 2012,
#53
anyone know the tempo/time sigs? i cant seem to figure out the drum map/tempo map combo midi file. midi file plays fine in ezd but nothing happens to my tempo track which is default 120 4/4. cubase 5 btw.
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#55
Quote by SHaun Steel
Here's a little update to my mix again. I put Alu's from Ignite amps new EQ plug on the master bus to attenuate some of the lows and bring out some highs. If you dont have any of Alu's stuff here is the link it all freeware lots of goodies to be had.

http://www.igniteamps.com/en/audio-plug-ins

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19655341/Confined%20rough%207.mp3

This is my favorite so far, though the vocals sound kinda funny. Too much verb/delay perhaps... or maybe just need to be lowered in volume a tad, so it's not so upfront.


Gonna try reamping this through my Kemper and/or 5150 sometime today

Quote by Shornifier
New update! Really took some time with the drums and the guitars; I think it's a very big improvement from the first time I took a smash at it. Again, I would very much appreciate any feedback/tips&suggestions/etc.

With Vocals:
https://soundcloud.com/shornebaek/12-6-update-confined

Without Vocals (Instrumental):
https://soundcloud.com/shornebaek/12-6-update-confined-remaster
soundcloud.com/shornebaek/12-6-update-confined-remaster (incase the link is broken)

Thanks much

The little tidbits at the end aren't accidents by the way; just a reminder for all us metalheads to not take everything so seriously, yea? lol

You went a little hard on the master comp/limiter, there's a lot of audible pumping.

I like what you did with the vocals, though. Little too excited on the high end, though IMO.
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#56
I'm gonna take another look at this later cuz I need to thicken up those guitars (need a saturation plug of some kind and a panable delay) and get the lowend/guitar balance right, but here's mine so far, without vox.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19504966/FirstMix%282%29.mp3

I should probably master it properly too, just using a tweaked preset atm.

I am damn pleased with my bass tone though... it sounds bad ass.

Edit: And here's a mix with some widening and the lowend of the bass turned down. It sounds less muddy but just too weak in my eyes.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19504966/WiderMix.mp3

Edit: And here's another later version... I think it's the best one so i'm gonna stop screwing with it for a bit.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19504966/Mix2%284%29.mp3
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#57
Well, as much as I want to join in this, Pro Tools is being a hoe and doesn't want to upconvert the sample rate of the raw tracks up to 96khz. Oh well, life moves on. I'll give it a shot in a couple days.
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#58
@Chemical fire that's a great sounding mix buddy I'm really like the guitar tones. In the third version you blended the bass and guitars much better, both sounding really solid. I would like to hear your mix with the vocal tracks the Matrix claw uploaded. Sounding pretty massive already good job buddy
#62
Alright boys & girls, bash away: https://soundcloud.com/therealcaywood/confined-rough-bounce-1

No vocals (Sorry Matrix). There are a few things in the MIDI file I'd like to tweak but I don't want to get too deep into this. If it was just a little more humanized, it would have been a lot easier to mix since SSD really performs better with humanized drums.

I think my biggest concerns with it are the snare & I'm not sure if I got the cymbals right (SSD uses its own MIDI settings and I'm too lazy to change them). Still, enjoy bashing it.
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#63
I had the same problem with cymbals, I compared my midi the the OH bounce to make sure I had my set up right.

As for the snare, well it doesn't sound like a rock snare. For a comparison here's the metal kit I made the other day for myself.

https://soundcloud.com/chemicalfire/ssd4-ex-metal-kit

Your snare sounds tuned too loose for metal.
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#64
Quote by lockwolf
I know there was a site that had a bunch of stems & sessions ready to be mixed but I forgot where it was at.


Chatter, that's the site, I found it again after a quick Google Search. I bet we could get away with using the Ultimate Metal stems since they're letting others mix them for free anyways.


There's also Indaba Music, which does a similar thing;

http://www.indabamusic.com/
#65
Quote by ChemicalFire
I had the same problem with cymbals, I compared my midi the the OH bounce to make sure I had my set up right.

As for the snare, well it doesn't sound like a rock snare. For a comparison here's the metal kit I made the other day for myself.

https://soundcloud.com/chemicalfire/ssd4-ex-metal-kit

Your snare sounds tuned too loose for metal.


See, I don't know these things, I don't mix metal :p

No but seriously, thanks for the tip. I'm not used to mixing metal so any help is great.
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#66
A lot of people mix metal snares with even more crack than in that clip, but honestly I think that sounds thin and eugh. I like my snare to have SOME body to it.
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#67
Phat snares are my personal favorite, even for metal.

Whipped this up:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16210823/UG%20Stuff/Confined1.mp3

Augmented the snare w/ a slate z4 single hit sample I've had laying around for some extra room and body. Everything else is from the audio clips I uploaded.

GTRS - DI > x50 > recabinent mesa OS mic setup 57 fredman style > EQ and parallel EQ

Bass - Split DI, one sub/low track squashed with a limiter and a grit track run through TSE 808v2 and TSE BOD; limiter on the bass buss

Vox - Slammed with compression > delay > reverb; doubling 'trick' on the backing vocal

Drums - Lots of EQ, compression on everything as well as drum buss

Cheers
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#68
Just tried to mix in vocals.


Turns out I suck at mixing vocals.

Edit: Here's my first attempt

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19504966/VoxMix1%282%29.mp3

Any tips?
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#69
Quote by ChemicalFire
Just tried to mix in vocals.


Turns out I suck at mixing vocals.

Edit: Here's my first attempt

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19504966/VoxMix1%282%29.mp3

Any tips?

Posted this in the chat thread, but figured it might be useful to someone else:

Slam the vocals with compression. Seriously - If you think there's enough on there, use more, especially with high screams (otherwise they'll sound really thin)

1176 clone will do you wonders. Make sure all the buttons are pressed in and smash the hell out of them, the only EQ you should be doing in the end is a high pass, a dip in the low mids, and maybe a little high shelf for some presence
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#72
Cuz I don't want this to die I'll do some rough crits on the last two attempts.

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Here's my first attempt, this was all done on headphones so I don't know how it will sound to everyone else.

First attempt

Second attempt < Bass drops FTW XD

Any comments would be appreciated.


In the first mix I found the guitars sounds really weak and the bass didn't so much support them as underline them. Once vocals came in the fill up the mix a little it sounded a bit better but the whole mix sounds thin an anemic. I'd work on getting solid tones for all your instruments.

Second mix is a little better, but it's a step in the write direction but it still needs work to make everything sound a little bigger.

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My main complain here is the low end, there's too much of it and it makes the mix sound muddy and over hyped. Your guitar sounds weird in parts too... like you've slowed it down or something.
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#73
https://soundcloud.com/stevemayers/confined-mix-practice

-Vocals, I put on some Reverb, Delay and Compression

-Guitars, I did some Compression and EQ changing, and used a JCM800 VST and a Tubescreamer VST, and for the Bass I used a free Bass Amp VST I found somewhere.

-Drums, EZDrummer, Drumkit From Hell, with the kick on a seperate track with the EQ edited slightly

all on Reaper

This is my first mix of all instruments, so... bash away xD

*Feedback would be helpful!
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Last edited by steve987 at Dec 18, 2012,
#75
https://soundcloud.com/stevemayers/confined-mix-practice-ver2

Pretty much the same as before but I took the snare from the Pop/Rock kit, did the snare as a separate track, changed the EQ slightly, and took out some of the un-necessary Delay and Reverb on the vocals.

Yet again, feedback from someone who knows what they're talking about would be helpful!
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#76
Neat idea. I'll get in on the next one.

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I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

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#77
If I find some time tomorrow I'll check out the last couple of entries.

Come on guuuys, we need more people commenting!
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#78
I ended up with a sort of Swedish DM sound on this one.
Here's (more or less) what I used:
*Compression on the kick and snare to accent the attack
*Reverb on the snare, plus an EQ to get rid of a frequency around 300 Hz that was driving me up the wall
*Guitars: TSE808 -> Legion with a preset from earlier -> LeCab -> reverb/EQ
*Bass: Highpass -> distortion and reverb in IL Hardcore -> multiband comp -> LeCab -> EQ
The bass was the hardest because of those goddamn swells on the ringing notes. It took me like 10 minutes to get rid of them, trying different combinations of plugins, before putting a multiband comp in after the distortion (to compress the bass).
But now I know what to do if I want that Entombed/At The Gates/Bloodbath tone. Free amp sims are awesome.
E: I don't have my monitors, and I'm mixing on headphones, so the mix is probably shit.
Last edited by Cavalcade at Dec 24, 2012,
#80
I will definitely try this. It's be nice to mix something recorded by somebody else than me for a little practice. Thanks!