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#41
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No, I think everyone else is just brainwashed. It looks really bad, people just think its good because its new, and "better".


That's ironic, since people in your stance are actually the "brainwashed" ones. Because of the historic use of higher frame rates in hand-held cam-corders and soap operas, it is associated with low quality. It is in fact, higher quality. Your brain just has negative associations because 60 FPS is something you previously only encountered with bad things.
#42
The amount of space that is on a disc allows for a lower compression rate so that the picture and audio quality is better. To your average Joe this means nothing, but for someone who is a film buff or an audiophile perhaps(this is a guitar website and we are all tone freaks after all) its really the best way to experience a film. For anyone else its just a good way to watch a movie.
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#44
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I hope none of you paid more than a few dollars for HDMI cables.

I got my HDMI cable from BestBuy, it was like $200 but it's got built in virus protection so I figured it was worth it.
#45
Blu-Ray is useless technology based on outdated physical media. Skip it and go straight for HD streaming from the computer.

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#46
To everyone saying that they think Blu Ray looks like shit, was everything set up properly? My dad bought a Blu Ray player recently, and the damn thing only came with composite cables. (srsly) He was pretty pissed about how crappy it looked until I explained to him why.
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#47
Didn't read thread; guessing TS has never watched anything in high definition before.
#48
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Didn't read thread; guessing TS has never watched anything in high definition before.



I have, and I realize that it's "better", but I was just wondering if it was good enough to justify the price jump. Although now apparently that price jump isn't so big as it used to be.
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#49
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I got my HDMI cable from BestBuy, it was like $200 but it's got built in virus protection so I figured it was worth it.

lolol
#50
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lolol

I wanted to see how long it would take for someone to say something about that. (I didn't actually buy that)
#51
For a time I worked as a third party sales rep at Best Buy. Convinced poor bastards to buy those $80 Monster HDMI cables lulz.

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#52
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I have, and I realize that it's "better", but I was just wondering if it was good enough to justify the price jump. Although now apparently that price jump isn't so big as it used to be.


Ah, I've never used a TV for that sort of stuff, so I never had a price jump.
#54
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See, I don't get Blu-ray and HD and stuff. People make this big fuss about it, but honestly, I think Blu-ray makes everything look like it was recorded on a shitty amateur camcorder. And all the lighting looks like a Soap Opera. Why is that good?

That has nothing to do with the video quality itself. That has to do with the way some HDTVs handle frame rates, known as motion interpolation, sometimes branded as Auto Motion Plus, really only intended for sports viewing. This can be turned off to render those frames the traditional way (and look as you're used to).


lol @ all the misconception over AMP and frame rates ITT.

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#55
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I wanted to see how long it would take for someone to say something about that. (I didn't actually buy that)

I would have laughed my arse off if you did. Especially if somebody conned you into thinking it was "virus protected."
#56
I think people are confusing how things are filmed versus how HD looks. Things that weren't filmed in HD might look weird. Crappy, fake CGI is just going to look crappier and faker. It's one thing to have a preference of one thing over another, no one can take that away from you. It's something completely different when you've deluded yourself into thinking something objectively better is bad or overrated just because you don't like it and lots of other people do.
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#57
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I don't have that problem on the PS3


You don't say.
#58
Well for starters its BLU-RAY
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#59
YOU THERE OP, watch Seinfeld in HD then switch back to standard definition and tell me there is no difference!
#60
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That has nothing to do with the video quality itself. That has to do with the way some HDTVs handle frame rates, known as motion interpolation, sometimes branded as Auto Motion Plus, really only intended for sports viewing. This can be turned off to render those frames the traditional way (and look as you're used to).


lol @ all the misconception over AMP and frame rates ITT.


Although it's kind of sad that frame rates over 30 fps in movies look "fake" to people now.
#61
Quote by Danjo's Guitar
See, I don't get Blu-ray and HD and stuff. People make this big fuss about it, but honestly, I think Blu-ray makes everything look like it was recorded on a shitty amateur camcorder. And all the lighting looks like a Soap Opera. Why is that good?


Suspect shitty cheap TV.
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#62
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I agree with the soap opera affect. Everytime I walk into bestbuy or walmart, the movies they play look strange, and low-budget. Fight scenes look extremely fake, and you can tell the characters aren't really hitting eachother.

On the other hand, It makes anything animated look godly.

You can turn off that motion blurring thing. What it does is basically insert frames that aren't there.


I'd love me an HDTV and a high quality blu ray player. Shit don't even compare.
#63
Quote by Danjo's Guitar
See, I don't get Blu-ray and HD and stuff. People make this big fuss about it, but honestly, I think Blu-ray makes everything look like it was recorded on a shitty amateur camcorder. And all the lighting looks like a Soap Opera. Why is that good?

The Soap Opera thing you are talking about is from motion interpolation, a feature in the television that doubles the framerate and approximates between the previous and next frame to give a smoother look. Most movies are still shot in 24 frames per second.
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#64
personally whenever I see blu-ray it looks like some shit movie on pbs, proly cause I'm not used to it
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#65
I'm a bit of a wary one when it comes to new technology, but the definition is a lot better. I watched a program showing that a 50 quid blu ray player is no different in quality than a £200 one. I buy blu rays off play.com for like £6 too.
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#66
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YOU THERE OP, watch Seinfeld in HD then switch back to standard definition and tell me there is no difference!

why would you wish that on someone ;_;
#67
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If you've got an internet connection and you're buying dvds you're wasting your money.


I don't know whether you're implying that I should be pirating or that I should be paying for downloaded movies, but I apologizes for wanting to pay for as many movies as I can financially justify and refusing to pay for a product that I can't hold in my hands.
#68
I remember playing on the PS3 without a HD cable and one of my mates had a spare in his car and said watch this.

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#69
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I don't know whether you're implying that I should be pirating or that I should be paying for downloaded movies, but I apologizes for wanting to pay for as many movies as I can financially justify and refusing to pay for a product that I can't hold in my hands.

I was joking.
#70
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The same reason people changed from VHS to DVD back in the day.

It's really massively different to that. There was a lot more different between DVDs and VHS than there is between Blu Ray and DVD.

I think it's probably the reason Blu Ray hasn't picked up as much as DVDs did over VHS. Blu Ray is better quality picture (and larger storage), but unless you're playing games storage makes very little difference (or perhaps series I guess) and unless you have a HDTV the quality won't make a difference anyway.

There is a step up in quality as far as I'm aware, but not to the degree there is between VHS and DVD, nor is DVD in itself really very bad quality whereas VHS can be.
DVD is already has a pretty clear picture and sound, and unless you're an audio/video-phile, I don't think people value the step up in quality as much as they did with DVD, especially when it costs more. The price is only now coming down to similar levels.

What I mean to say is, yeah blu-ray has better picture quality etc, but not really to the degree anyone gives a shit, especially when DVD is more than adequate for most anyway.

EDIT: oh and of course DVD was a lot more practical as a medium compared to VHS, whereas blu-ray discs themselves are pretty much identical to DVD in that regard.
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#72


Okay so that shows you the difference in resolution.

The top film cameras have 8K CMOS sensors in the optical head block.

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#73
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Okay so that shows you the difference in resolution.

The top film cameras have 8K CMOS sensors in the optical head block.


Too bad 4k TVs are $20grand+
And there is no content for them.
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#74
^They'll come down in price but sigh why why why why. HD is fine right now. It looks really goddamn good already. Why do they want to bump up to 4K so fast? That takes a lot more storage capacity and bandwidth, meaning another round of equipment upgrades. Assholes.

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^They'll come down in price but sigh why why why why. HD is fine right now. It looks really goddamn good already. Why do they want to bump up to 4K so fast? That takes a lot more storage capacity and bandwidth, meaning another round of equipment upgrades. Assholes.

I would take a guess that HD is saturated, who do you know who doesnt have an HD tv anymore 720 or 1080?

Spec bump to get some interest in buying new tvs is my guess.
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#76
^Of course. I'm just sayin it's bullshit. And planned obsolescence at its worst.

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#77
Yep, but that's everything nowadays isnt it.

Tech you see it all the time, especially with apple.
Nothing is truly made to last anymore, or features are purposefully left out and saved for next generation, its a loss of profits if people don't continue to buy products.

Every phone and iPod I've owned, has died at about 24-30 months. My nano is two years at Christmas, and I'm not a fan of the new nano, I really hope it doesnt fall into that trend.
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#78
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I would take a guess that HD is saturated, who do you know who doesnt have an HD tv anymore 720 or 1080?

Spec bump to get some interest in buying new tvs is my guess.


Bingo.

Same reason Apple are drip feeding new features into their range of products, to give you a reason to buy a new one every 18months. It's working, so the TV manufacturers want to do the same.

The first films that are 4K will be out next year. So you can hopefully (for me) see 4k becoming the standard in the future. HDTV has only taken off in the Western world in the last decade. I personally didn't have one until 2006.

I can well imagine picking up an 4KTV in 2016.

edit - ^^ Snap. It's all technology companies doing this though.

It basically follows Moores Law.

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#79
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Every phone and iPod I've owned, has died at about 24-30 months. My nano is two years at Christmas, and I'm not a fan of the new nano, I really hope it doesnt fall into that trend.


That sucks, my iPod video from like 2005 is still working
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#80
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Yep, but that's everything nowadays isnt it.

Tech you see it all the time, especially with apple.
Nothing is truly made to last anymore, or features are purposefully left out and saved for next generation, its a loss of profits if people don't continue to buy products.

Every phone and iPod I've owned, has died at about 24-30 months. My nano is two years at Christmas, and I'm not a fan of the new nano, I really hope it doesnt fall into that trend.

Buy a $50 Nokia. I've had mine for about 4 years and never had a problems with it. I've dropped it accidentally countless times and thrown it intentionally on several occasions (to see if it would break/prove to somebody it wouldn't break,) and it's just got a few scratches. Works just the same as it did when I bought it. You can still buy the same model brand new, I'm fairly sure.

Most of my friends have iPhones or Galaxys and they drop them and break them or treat them carefully for a year and they inexplicably die, yet my Nokia lives on. Before it I had a $100 Motorolla that I dropped heaps and it never broke. Eventually the keys wore out, otherwise I'd still have it. Before that one I had a $200 Sony Ericsson. I dropped that all the time and it never broke and the only reason I bought the Motorolla was because the keys wore out.

Before that I had a Nokia 3315. It got stolen. I know it still works though. 3315's never die.

I dunno what point I was trying to make. Not every brand uses planned obsolescence as their main business model? Nokia makes great phones? Don't buy Apple products? Any of those suit me fine.
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