KrymsinViking
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Hey folks, I was wondering how firm the prices were on Guitar Center's online used gear. Anyone had any luck haggling them down? Iv heard that for new gear their prices can be somewhat flexible if your talking to the right associate but i'm not sure if that carries over for used gear too.
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They don't budge much if even at all. They used to haggle back more a few years ago. It depends from location to location really. No matter what, it always has to be authorized by the store manager.

Don't walk in expecting to get a used mint American Strat for the price of a MIM.
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KrymsinViking
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Quote by cdr_salamander
They don't budge much if even at all. They used to haggle back more a few years ago. It depends from location to location really. No matter what, it always has to be authorized by the store manager.

Don't walk in expecting to get a used mint American Strat for the price of a MIM.


This goes for online as well? I accidentally posted this over in GB&C last night and they seemed to think they would haggle quite a bit on used online gear.
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If the item was recently marked down, or it just came into the store, they usually won't mark it down. I've been told by several associates, at several different locations, that they're actually not allowed to make changes to prices in the system if that's the case. However, assuming it doesn't meet any of these two criteria, I've found they're usually pretty willing to mark down things (within reason), since they ARE making commission off of you, and have to make quotas each month.

Honestly, that's what I've never understood about people complaining about stores that pay their employees on commission. Sure, they might be annoying, because they're trying to sell you something all the time... but at the same time, it makes it much more favorable for you, because they're making money off their sale, which means you have the advantage of haggling with them. Employees who are paid on salary/hourly have no incentive to discount a price for you.
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yeah but even haggling them down a bit could be more than the cost without their commission
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yeah but even haggling them down a bit could be more than the cost without their commission

Not my experience as of late.

Guitar Center, or at least the ones around here, have gotten VERY competitive on their used prices lately. I'm talking very close to what you'd find buying from a private seller, and in some cases... less.

Case in point:

There was a Diamond NitroX for sale at one of the local GCs here for $999 and I bought a mic that usually sells for ~$200 used, for $100 a few weeks back. I also bought a bass that should've been upwards of $500, for $350.

They also had a JCM800 for $700 last time I was in, and an Engl combo for $650.
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Quote by MatrixClaw
If the item was recently marked down, or it just came into the store, they usually won't mark it down. I've been told by several associates, at several different locations, that they're actually not allowed to make changes to prices in the system if that's the case. However, assuming it doesn't meet any of these two criteria, I've found they're usually pretty willing to mark down things (within reason), since they ARE making commission off of you, and have to make quotas each month.

Honestly, that's what I've never understood about people complaining about stores that pay their employees on commission. Sure, they might be annoying, because they're trying to sell you something all the time... but at the same time, it makes it much more favorable for you, because they're making money off their sale, which means you have the advantage of haggling with them. Employees who are paid on salary/hourly have no incentive to discount a price for you.


Are you sure this is the case? One of the dudes who shops at my comic shop works at the local guitar center, and I asked him about the commision and he led me to believe he would have to sell 5+ Gibson level guitars ($1,500+) for it to kick in. Sorta more as a bonus for a great month then the driving force of their paycheck. Additionally he said that only two or three people at the local guitar center worked enough hours for it to be really possible to hit that mark.
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ok here is the deal (although if you know somebody that works there they should have told you thins).

the price on used items is firm for the first 90 days. the manager may have a little wiggle room after 60 days but not before that. the managers are allowed at their discretion to apply certain discount deals but don't count on that. they may also be able to give you say strings to offset the cost of tax (in store only). if buying online then all of this goes out the window as they just won't bother with giving deals. your best bet is to be a regular at one of their stores. if you are they will work with you as best as they can. remember GC is a corporate entity and the policy is made in that manner. while the managers (not the sales staff) have some leway they still have to answer to higher ups so aren't likely to give deals that will be ?ed.
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Okay cool that makes sense. Their used prices are pretty solid online as is but I was just wondering about the prospect of haggling them down.
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Quote by monwobobbo
ok here is the deal (although if you know somebody that works there they should have told you thins).

the price on used items is firm for the first 90 days. the manager may have a little wiggle room after 60 days but not before that. the managers are allowed at their discretion to apply certain discount deals but don't count on that. they may also be able to give you say strings to offset the cost of tax (in store only). if buying online then all of this goes out the window as they just won't bother with giving deals. your best bet is to be a regular at one of their stores. if you are they will work with you as best as they can. remember GC is a corporate entity and the policy is made in that manner. while the managers (not the sales staff) have some leway they still have to answer to higher ups so aren't likely to give deals that will be ?ed.


Yup. The online prices can be haggled too, but the same time frame applies and you need to call and have a chat with a manager, not a salesperson.
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What monwobobbo and MatrixClaw said. I've had luck with typically, more expensive amps for even less than what they sell in CL and forums. Some of the senior associates, but specially the store managers have some wiggle room to negotiate. And it gets wider the longer it has been in inventory; so, senior/associate/manager, luck, and patience are all key to a killer deal.

I had a killer deal on a Fryette CLX for the price Min sold his UltraLead. Same with a Rivera KR100, XTC, Herbert, 85th Ann Marshall over the last holiday sale. Some managers would even call other managers out of state if you're buds with them.
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I got strings with my Electra Dyne, then returned it and kept the strings. Set for strings in the foreseeable future.
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Deff the way to to do it
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Awesome.

At least they cost like 3 times as much as guitar strings?
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I got free shirts when I bought my mark v.
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I got strings with my Electra Dyne, then returned it and kept the strings. Set for strings in the foreseeable future.

exactly what I did. they gave me three sets!
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#21
Quote by KrymsinViking
Are you sure this is the case? One of the dudes who shops at my comic shop works at the local guitar center, and I asked him about the commision and he led me to believe he would have to sell 5+ Gibson level guitars ($1,500+) for it to kick in. Sorta more as a bonus for a great month then the driving force of their paycheck. Additionally he said that only two or three people at the local guitar center worked enough hours for it to be really possible to hit that mark.

how GC commission works is a percentage of the total profit margin on the items you sold in a month gets added to a percentage of the total amount you sold in a month, if that total is above what you earned in wages for the month, you get everything over your wages in commission.
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#22
They any change Mesa's pricing at all, as dictated by Mesa. Easy way around that for them is to give you other items.

The guy told me he could drop the price on Oranges all day long.

I asked as I wasn't happy they didn't have a new in the box Mark V. I got a shirt for myself and both my brothers.

You just have to ask. If its a higher dollar amp/guitar just ask them is this the best you can do?
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KrymsinViking
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#23
Yup. looking for a used 6505+ in the near future, but I'm still in the saving phase of that plan lol.