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B&J
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So i have this nice little telecaster, black finish. And it is starting to show marks... like the thing you see on a reliced guitar. I only have it for a year but i play like 10 hours a day so i guess it is not weird. But right now the relicing looks kinda gay so i want to make the marks a bit bigger. Now i tried to scratch with my stone pick, but that would only erase some of the finish and leave scratch marks. So what can i do to not get scratchmarks and erase some more of the finish.
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#2
Sand the finish? But what do you mean that the relicing looks gay? Is it happy-looking? With a smile on its face?
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#3
Quote by AcidParadox
Sand the finish? But what do you mean that the relicing looks gay? Is it happy-looking? With a smile on its face?

Maybe it looks like 2 dudes getting it on.
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Quote by AcidParadox
Sand the finish? But what do you mean that the relicing looks gay? Is it happy-looking? With a smile on its face?


Well it kinda looks like.... yeah well... its there,,, but it could be better kinda thing. So i want to make it better :P
B&J
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It'll get better over time anyway though?

I guess it will but now its like wearing a t-shirt but its just that much too short to make you look stupid.... so i want some more :P
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#7
Just play more, I personally never understood the point of relicing, its not so much the look as the story imo. Its like hey you see this ding, got that when I knocked the bassist off the stage back in 83... that type stuff, just play the age into it don't cheat
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Quote by racertj5
Just play more, I personally never understood the point of relicing, its not so much the look as the story imo. Its like hey you see this ding, got that when I knocked the bassist off the stage back in 83... that type stuff, just play the age into it don't cheat

Yes, the story is cool, but there are other factors to consider. For one, poly finished guitars don't really relic on their own, they just get beat to shit. I mean, maybe if you tour with that guitar for 40 years or something, but a bedroom player isn't going to see any classic relic'ing, they will just see some nasty chips and dings.

Basically, his guitar might get beat up over time, but it won't develop the coveted "relic" look unless he does it on purpose.

TS, this might give you some ideas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1eA5_4gyQw
nicolasrivera
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This is one of the worst aging videos out there...please do not watch it....


Quote by W4RP1G
Yes, the story is cool, but there are other factors to consider. For one, poly finished guitars don't really relic on their own, they just get beat to shit. I mean, maybe if you tour with that guitar for 40 years or something, but a bedroom player isn't going to see any classic relic'ing, they will just see some nasty chips and dings.

Basically, his guitar might get beat up over time, but it won't develop the coveted "relic" look unless he does it on purpose.

TS, this might give you some ideas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1eA5_4gyQw
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This is one of the worst aging videos out there...please do not watch it....

Then post a better one or STFU.
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Takes patience and lots of time....in average i spend around 6 to 12 months aging my guitars.... this 55' reissue gold top Les Paul is my latest, still under development, started in January and probably be done by the 30th this month....












Quote by B&J
So i have this nice little telecaster, black finish. And it is starting to show marks... like the thing you see on a reliced guitar. I only have it for a year but i play like 10 hours a day so i guess it is not weird. But right now the relicing looks kinda gay so i want to make the marks a bit bigger. Now i tried to scratch with my stone pick, but that would only erase some of the finish and leave scratch marks. So what can i do to not get scratchmarks and erase some more of the finish.
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It bugs me that he didn't do anything to the areas around the volume/tone knobs.
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It bugs me that he didn't do anything to the areas around the volume/tone knobs.



I did it on my other Les Paul, 2001 R8.

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*pics*

Ok, first off, Gibson Les Pauls have a nitro finish, which is far easier to relic.

Secondly, posting pics is pretty much useless. Post a video of how to relic a poly finished guitar, or stfu.
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I did it on my other Les Paul, 2001 R8.

I was referring to the video.
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Quote by W4RP1G
Ok, first off, Gibson Les Pauls have a nitro finish, which is far easier to relic.

Secondly, posting pics is pretty much useless. Post a video of how to relic a poly finished guitar, or stfu.


Mmm you have issues...any how, find me on youtube by my name, have some vids on aging parts and finishes and changing inlays...you could learn a thing or two.
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Quote by nicolasrivera
Mmm you have issues...any how, find me on youtube by my name, have some vids on aging parts and finishes and changing inlays...you could learn a thing or two.

And you seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I looked at your mediocre channel, you don't have a single video for relic'ing a poly finish. I'm guessing that you don't even know what a poly finish is, judging by your responses.

And I have nothing to learn from your channel.
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Quote by W4RP1G
And you seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I looked at your mediocre channel, you don't have a single video for relic'ing a poly finish. I'm guessing that you don't even know what a poly finish is, judging by your responses.

And I have nothing to learn from your channel.



Well, you seem to be way too stupid to even be talk too, so, STFO L.
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#21
Relicing purposefully is blasphemy, its like cutting holes in your jeans. It looks cool, but you're just imitating coolness.

GO SKATE AND GET THEM PROPERLY!

But what do I know? It's your guitar :-)
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#22
Quote by nicolasrivera
Well, you seem to be way too stupid to even be talk too, so, STFO L.


even be talk too?

WOW,know who looks stupid.

Answer the mans questions about a poly finish relic.
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Really, dude?
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ITT: Pig gets mad at Nicolas, and everyone joins in on one side or the other.

I'm currently relicing my blaser by using a throwing star to gently chip the paint. I'll post picks when it's done.
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#25
Upside down can of compressed air and a really hot hairdryer (or if you'd prefer the hairspray->lighter flamethrower, that works too but you gotta be careful).

The paint doesn't expand and contract as fast as the wood under it does so it'll start to crack.


Also, Ultimate relic thread: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1060692
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RJH11
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I took the neck off a cheap epi strat style copy threw the body down my apt steps a few times
stomped on it in the stones smacked it off a chain link fence and so on then hit it with a lot of sanding with fine grit steel wool to take the shine off the finish threw it back together and called
it done looks pretty good too and way cheaper then buying a relic. And yes its poly finish.
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Quote by RJH11
I took the neck off a cheap epi strat style copy threw the body down my apt steps a few times
stomped on it in the stones smacked it off a chain link fence and so on then hit it with a lot of sanding with fine grit steel wool to take the shine off the finish threw it back together and called
it done looks pretty good too and way cheaper then buying a relic. And yes its poly finish.


yes it may be, but you didn't seem to make an art form out of it.

i disagree with the whole relicing thing, but if its your guitar, go ahead and do it.

a good relic job is art that is carefully thought of and executed. not thrown down stairs.
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#28
I don't agree with relicing but it's your guitar, you could alway wear loads of bangles on your strumming arm like slash, it makes me cringe every time I see him play scratching the crap out of a nice guitar. Also just don't look after the guitar very well, I mean, the look people are going for with the reliced look is a heavily gigged guitar that's had a long history of touring and general playing.
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#29
It was just a project to show no need to spend $100's on something you can do yourself and i didnt know trashing up a axe is a "Art Form" but i suppose it could be also used coffee grains
to age the white plastic to a antique look.
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#30
Poly finish in on of the worst finishs for any guitar, i have aged it before, here is my telecaster with poly that no longer looks like poly, but i will eventualy refinish.












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even be talk too?

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Answer the mans questions about a poly finish relic.
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#31
Wow, the nut on that tele looks like someone once installed a 46-46-46-46-46-46 set of strings
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Wow, the nut on that tele looks like someone once installed a 46-46-46-46-46-46 set of strings


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#34
Rub the guitar with bacon and drag it behind a pickup truck.
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#35
The relic'ing on that tele actually looks pretty good. I don't suppose you made a video of that one?
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#36
I've never played a guitar that's been beaten up, was old enough to be a relic or was reliced, and I always notice the fretboard.

My acoustic has been with me for years and the fretboard is quite worn and I don't notice the difference, but on some reliced electrics they look almost scalloped. Is that just the picture or what?
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#37
if i was ever going to have one of my guitar's relic'd i'd be sending it to nicholas.

i'd recommend everyone in this thread at least show respect for one another please.

a good relic job takes some time and effort, that's not a question. as with anything, a half ass job done in a hurry will look like just that.

nicholas, i know i've asked before and i'll ask again. please make a detailed "how to relic" thread in GB&C if you haven't.
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if i was ever going to have one of my guitar's relic'd i'd be sending it to nicholas.

i'd recommend everyone in this thread at least show respect for one another please.

a good relic job takes some time and effort, that's not a question. as with anything, a half ass job done in a hurry will look like just that.

nicholas, i know i've asked before and i'll ask again. please make a detailed "how to relic" thread in GB&C if you haven't.

I have no problem with Nicholas, but people that criticize and offer no better solution are one of my buttons. All I ever wanted was for him to offer up a better method if he claims that there is one. I think that's a standard that everyone should be held to.
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(1) I have no problem with Nicholas, (2) but people that criticize and offer no better solution are one of my buttons. (3) All I ever wanted was for him to offer up a better method if he claims that there is one. I think that's a standard that everyone should be held to.

1 - same here.

2 - huge plus one right here.

3 - also same here, that's why i asked him to do a "how to" thread.


look i know i can come across as a bigger a-hole than anyone else on this site on the right day, i get that. i know nick from some other forums and he has a fair share of haters out there. he brought that on himself by his own actions. but at the end of the day his work on relic'ing guitars is flat out some of the best i've seen. (others will disagree and that's fine, things can get relic'd too far to the point of ruin in many people's opinion) we all have our good and bad, it makes us human.

if he would post a "how to" thread, and maybe he already has, it would be a benefit to UG as a whole. i know i'd learn something from it. but some people, and i'm not saying nick is this way, don't want to share how they do what they do because it let's the cat out of the bag and suddenly "everyone is a pro" at it. part of me certainly respects that as well.

warpig i have no problem with you, you know that.
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nicolasrivera
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Thanks. I did not film it, i really never have a video camera at hand when ever i get the drive and inspiration to do this and i know it will help me in the future if i did so, but i devote all my concentration on doing the aging and not thinking about when ever the camera will stop filming or if its low on charge etc.

I actually do not recommend doing agin on poly finishes, its just not right.

Poly is like glass, any one that gets a ding in a poly finish knows how bad it looks, in lacquer or varnish finishes a ding is not as invasive and can actually be repaired, not with Poly, that is the very reason i refinish my PRS, it had a lot of dings and they looked terrible with the poly finish they use.

I can only offer whats in my videos and all the questions and answers i have given for all this years in my aging threads over at mylespaul forum, there is a ton of info and tips that my help and inspire some people to do there own relic jobs.

cheers.

Nico.


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The relic'ing on that tele actually looks pretty good. I don't suppose you made a video of that one?