#1
Just received my guitar (LTD H-351nt) from the local music store here in town. This is the very first new guitar I've ever purchased, and wondered about some things that i may consider blemishes? This is in fact suppose to be an "A" stock guitar. I'm, wondering what your opinions may be on weather these things are acceptable or not.

I should mention, that this was an order in...It wasn't in stock at the store...So i was unable to see the actual guitar until it showed up.

the first thing is the yellowness of the abalone and the difference from the head stock to neck...There are areas that a quite a bit whiter/clean looking.

For the other things, the pictures show some imperfections in the finish...

Let me know what you guys think...Appreciate it.





Last edited by tsg31t at Dec 11, 2012,
#2
I wouldn't let that bother me.
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#3
yeah the headstock is a lot more yellow on the abalone. whether that'd be considered a fault or not, i dunno.

I couldn't make out any imperfections in your other pics (which is not to say they're not there, just i couldn't make them out).
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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#4
did you inspect it in the shop before you took it home or was it delivered directly to you in that state?

If you checked it and took it they'll probably argue that you damaged the finish near the headstock or that you should have raised the issue at the time and you've now accepted the guitar as is.

If it came directly to you, I'd take it in and see if there's anything they can do whether that's an exchange or just a discount for the flawed finish.

EDIT: For those who are having trouble seeing the defects; in the second pick the white dots on the side of the neck are chips in the paint (I think) and the third pic looks like there's a chunk of glue on top of the abalone right near the joint between neck and body.
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#5
Go back to the store, tell them you either want some discount or replacement model. If they don't do that either suck it up or ask for your money back.

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#6
The imperfections are basically right in the center of each pic...In the second pic down, there is some light scratches on that inside corner of head stock...In the third pic down, its showing the area right near the neck that has some raised up clear coat that is smudged or nicked or something...
#7
^^^ ah yeah i see it now, thanks I thought they were reflections
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#8
I picked it up from the store...I did scan over it, probably not in enough detail...I notice the yellowness right away...The guys i bought this from are very good guys, and I don't suspect a problem if i decide to try to exchange it...I'm waiting to hear back from them (I sent them the pictures as well) to see what they say...But I figured it'd be good to get some other opinions as well.
#9
I still wouldn't really let that bother me. Those sorts of things happen with general wear and tear anyway.
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#10
Return it.

They are usually better than that, also if you bought it over the phone or whatever you have 7 days to return it legally thanks to distance selling laws, in the UK and EU anyway.

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#12
It looks like they charged you for A stock and gave you B stock. It doesn't matter that you'll probably ding it yourself in a month or so, you payed for a brand new, unblemished guitar and that's what you should get. At the very least they should give you a partial refund equivalent to the difference between A and B stock values.
#13
More likely they didnt even look at it, it probably came into the store and got shipped out without ever being opened.

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#14
Quote by Tom 1.0
More likely they didnt even look at it, it probably came into the store and got shipped out without ever being opened.

I never said the store was at fault, I'm just saying they should fix it if it's in their power to do so.
#15
yeah listen to tom
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#16
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I never said the store was at fault, I'm just saying they should fix it if it's in their power to do so.



Sorry mate, I wasnt implying you had, I was just posting in my experience what would commonly happen with guitars.

Some people would get a bit funny if we opened up "their" special ordered guitars. Meant we sent out some right lemons. Send it back and they will get you another one.

Thanks Dave

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#17
no problem EDIT: that's a good point about not opening someone's brand new guitar I always just assumed it was laziness, but that is true, if you're buying a new guitar some people don't want the entire shop staff to have played it
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#18
No

It was always the nice stuff too

Had an EBMM BFR Morse come in once and we couldnt even go near it before he came to buy it

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#19
Minor imperfections like that are very, very common on guitars in that price range, especially when they have desirable features a lot of decoration (like yours). Unless these blemishes are worse than I can see from your photos, they most likely wouldn't be reason enough to call the guitar "b-stock". You can bring it back, but if you get another one, it's very likely that'll it'll have similar issues.
#20
I just talked to the store owner and he agreed to taking it back to order another one...So back to the store i go...Sucks, but what do you do...Thanks for your input all.
#21
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Minor imperfections like that are very, very common on guitars in that price range, especially when they have desirable features a lot of decoration (like yours). Unless these blemishes are worse than I can see from your photos, they most likely wouldn't be reason enough to call the guitar "b-stock". You can bring it back, but if you get another one, it's very likely that'll it'll have similar issues.


To me, it almost looks like it's been in a store somewhere, and been played...The scratches on the head stock look like they came from placing the guitar on a stand, and whoever did it, wasn't carefull about it. Doesn't look like a new from the factory guitar...
Last edited by tsg31t at Dec 11, 2012,
#22
Who did you buy it from?

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#23
From a local store in town here...I'd rather not say the actual name...They are good guys, and very trustworthy...I don't suspect anything wrong on there end at all.
#24
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No

It was always the nice stuff too

Had an EBMM BFR Morse come in once and we couldnt even go near it before he came to buy it


ahahaha that'd have to get frustrating pretty fast

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I just talked to the store owner and he agreed to taking it back to order another one...So back to the store i go...Sucks, but what do you do...Thanks for your input all.


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Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#25
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From a local store in town here...I'd rather not say the actual name...They are good guys, and very trustworthy...I don't suspect anything wrong on there end at all.



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Dave, yeah it was, but not as bad as the kids who came in every day with no intention of every spending any money.

In retrospect I am glad I lost that job now.

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#26
yeah that's true. i know the couple of times i was in a guitar shop around school-getting-out time and they all just came in to wait for their buses
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#27
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yeah that's true. i know the couple of times i was in a guitar shop around school-getting-out time and they all just came in to wait for their buses



yeah the store i was in sat next to a college so the same twats with the same riffs came in every day at lunch just to stink out the shop ( I am a student too, but how do they all manage to have such awful BO? I hate students ) and just waste our time.

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#28


yeah the ones i'm talking about was close enough to schools that they all went in at the end of the day. every day, i'm guessing.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#29
I ****ing hate students.

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#30
I have nothing against them but i could see how guitar shops might. still, those students grow up to be adults with money, generally.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#31
So I went back to the music store and they had no issues at all exchanging the guitar...This morning I decided to UPGRADE! I went with the LTD H-1001FM Basically same guitar, only with a bit better bridge, and locking tuners...(cost $150 more) The guitar is also made in Korea, vs. Indonesia where the H-351nt is made...From what I understand the Korean made models are better built so i'm pumped up to see it...
#32
The H-1001 is definitely a large upgrade.

Just one note, it's very normal for abalone to vary a lot in colour. You can get red abalone, blue, green, yellow, orange, pink, silver, black...
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#33
^ that's what i was wondering about the abalone (though i guess you could argue that using such differently-coloured abalone on the same guitar in itself was a bit thoughtless)

but still, you got an upgrade and the store was cool, so it's all good.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#34
Very nice. The H-1001 should be killer. I would get one if they offered one in black with a Floyd Rose.
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#35
Received the H-1001FM last week! Everything looks excellent on this guitar! The playability is unreal! Love it so far! If anyone is looking for a metal machine, this is it!
#36
glad you're happy
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

#37
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#38
I seen allot of those guitar, (love ESP/LTD) the first picture around the headstock looks ok, abalone comes in many different colors. But the rest is 100% defected.