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#41
Quote by dementiacaptain
I felt my name was mentioned.

The Mark III is sweet. The XXX is sweet. The 6505+ is also sweet. My point here, is that there isn't an amp that isn't awesome for something.

I think you just don't really know what you want right now dude. I would definitely go play that Mark IV, see if that sort of sound would be worth it to you. I think that you would be happy with the 6505+ as well, even with my Mark III and VHT, no matter what new amp I get I still love the 6505+ tone. Just get out there and play dude.


Thanks man. I stopped in for some strings yesterday. I saw they still had the mark iv and they have the 6505+. when I have more time im gonna go up there and try them out. the mark is really intimidating with all the knobs and eq and stuff. but im sure the 3 is more simple id think. only other thing ive been looking at for a while is the krank jr combos. wish I could try out one of those as well as the xxx combo. It might be hard to me to spend for the mark as this is just a hobby for me. not sure how cool my wife will be with me spending that much lol. I mean I could but finding a cheaper solution would also be pretty awesome. thanks again.
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#42
Yeah, I feel bad because I know you had asked for some Krank clips and I haven't done them

I think that the Krank is a very awesome little combo, but its an acquired taste for sure. It has this great middy growl that just sounds vicious, but I would definitely make sure you liked that tone, definitely one to play first if possible.
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#43
Quote by dementiacaptain
Yeah, I feel bad because I know you had asked for some Krank clips and I haven't done them

I think that the Krank is a very awesome little combo, but its an acquired taste for sure. It has this great middy growl that just sounds vicious, but I would definitely make sure you liked that tone, definitely one to play first if possible.


its cool man. ive heard some people dont like it. hopefully ones will pop up at guitar center sometime. one great thing about buying from them is you can return it. you would lose money on shipping of course though.
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#44
I have not tried a jr krank.

The Rev is very different than the Krankenstein "plus". It would be interesting to see how the small versions compare to their big brothers.

Dementiacaptian nailed when he he said all of those amps are good. Just make sure to play first so it fits your style.

And the knobs are the mark series... Yeah there are a bunch but don't let that intimidate you. Just find some time to sit and play. Only way you will know. And you have a few month to figure it out.


Thanks for dropping in Dementiacaptain.
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#45
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I retune onstage at every gig. While our vocalist is announcing the next song, our other guitarist and myself will retune between Drop Db and Eb Standard. It takes no more time than switching guitars does.

Like I said, if you're talking open tunings, or drastically different tunings that require multiple strings to be re-tuned, that's different. However, if it came down to "new guitar and decent budget amp" or "Epic as shit amp that is perfect for me" I'm picking option two every day of the week.

Also, I only use one guitar onstage, but I have a backup in it's case within 10 steps of me at every gig, and then I've got a bunch of cheapo guitars at home that "I'm gonna upgrade eventually"
I use standard, drop D and open G. Even going between standard and drop D on a Floyd equipped guitar is a pita in the middle of a gig. Open G I'm playing on a fixed bridge but still, forget about it. It stays in open G at all times.
Plus of course there's string breakage. It's always good to have a spare, even if you do have to give it a quick retune. There's more to it than simple laziness.

However, I did say to spend all his money on the amp and think about another guitar later.
Multiple guitars are convenient and I always want more than one on stage with me but not if that means compromising on my amp.
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#46
Wooo huge thread incoming! If you want the mark tone, get the mark. Nothing else will satisfy. Well other than an AxeFXII or Kemper KPA :P
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#47
Quote by R45VT

Thanks for dropping in Dementiacaptain.





Always excited to actually give input on something I know about
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#48
I think the bottom line here is - buy a Mark. Whether you go for a 3 or a 4 it probably won't matter a lot, any of them will make you smile. If that means you have to wait until you can afford another guitar, so be it. Priorities, man. If you can afford a Mark 4, buy one but if a nice Mk3 pops up for the right price, buy that instead. It's that simple really.
And if a Mk2C+ pops up within budget, grab it immediately and run away laughing maniacally before he realises what he's done.
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#49
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that was silly6string



ahhhhhhh. my apologies romeozdistress
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#50
to contribute, i would print the mesa mkiv manual out before going to demo it. may sound stupid, but it teaches you how the tone stack works, for example, the gain increases with more treble for. some wizardry in there. it will give you a better demo.

http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/Mark%204.pdf

i paid $875 for the older MKIV head. in great shape and brand new tubes. they sound great, but i didn't discover my tone on it for a few weeks. i love it now. if you turn the channel masters down, and the global master down on the 22 watt, you can get good sound. i play it at 3am and don't disturb my wife.
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#51
thanks guys.
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#52
I've seen a few dual rec tremoverbs for around $900 too. anybody play those?
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#53
Quote by gregs1020

or maybe he wants that big check every year, some people can't save so they do that.

I can't save money at all!



I was actually reading up on it. The whole paycheck-to-paycheck lifestyle can stick with people for a long time, even when you really don't need to live like that.
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#54
im also a home owner. lol. so some of that money has to go into the house of course. I can have 1k for myself. thats about it. but hell i wouldnt mind keeping it under that lol. might wanna see how much I will actually be getting back before I set a def budget.
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#55
you should try a 5150 III 50 watt and see what you think.

isn't sweetwater near you?

can't you head over there and try some amps?
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#56
Quote by gregs1020
you should try a 5150 III 50 watt and see what you think.

isn't sweetwater near you?

can't you head over there and try some amps?


its in fort wayne which is about 90 minutes away I think.
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#57
it's worth the drive then.

if for nothing but to try some amps to rule in or out.

I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger, then it hit me.
#58
Quote by gregs1020
it's worth the drive then.

if for nothing but to try some amps to rule in or out.



yeah, ive always wanted to go check it out anyways.
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#59
I ended up trying pit the marv iv and god that thing was amazing. still at $1200 though. I dont think I can justify spending that much at this point in my guitar playing hobby. the 6505 112 was pretty damn awesome too. If only I could find a peavey ultra or xxx combo to compare it too. i think im pretty much down to those 3 6505, xxx, or ultra combo. just waiting on w2s now.


i know I can afford one of those for sure. The mesa route is just alot more than I'd like to spend right now. I like the idea of the ultra and xx because they have decent cleans ive read. I'd be about to dabble into blues and lower gain stuff if i wanted to... Should also be fun to experiment with some pedals. I have never even tried that due to the fact i've always had a vypyr. Of course another tube 60 is an option. But Im leaning toward something non digital.

Thanks for being patient with me everyone. In a couple weeks itll all be over for now LOL.
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#60
Quote by romeozdistress
I ended up trying pit the marv iv and god that thing was amazing. still at $1200 though. I dont think I can justify spending that much at this point in my guitar playing hobby. the 6505 112 was pretty damn awesome too. If only I could find a peavey ultra or xxx combo to compare it too. i think im pretty much down to those 3 6505, xxx, or ultra combo. just waiting on w2s now.


i know I can afford one of those for sure. The mesa route is just alot more than I'd like to spend right now. I like the idea of the ultra and xx because they have decent cleans ive read. I'd be about to dabble into blues and lower gain stuff if i wanted to... Should also be fun to experiment with some pedals. I have never even tried that due to the fact i've always had a vypyr. Of course another tube 60 is an option. But Im leaning toward something non digital.

Thanks for being patient with me everyone. In a couple weeks itll all be over for now LOL.


look around a little more, here there are mkiv heads and combos for <$1000. i paid $875 for the long head. its in great shape and the tubes were only a few months old (verified by receipt).

i can tell you if you don't get what you want you will sell/trade/ lose more money than doing it up front.

look here:

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/index.cfm it doesn't pop up right so in the search bar "mesa mkiv" and there is a combo for $950. ask a LOT of questions.

however i just my first bad deal ever with GC use, and am out two shipping charges $60, but have a great guitar headed my way. but shit happens. the person on the phone was just down right deceptive, and i got screwed. but they are fixing it other than the shipping. i have had over 100 purchases in the last so eight years and that was the first, so i am not going to complain.
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#61
He is right on getting what you want now. Next year you would be on the same quest.

Any of the Peaveys would be great though. Just test them first. They are a bit brighter and less gain than a 6505.


Where do you live?
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#62
Quote by R45VT
He is right on getting what you want now. Next year you would be on the same quest.

Any of the Peaveys would be great though. Just test them first. They are a bit brighter and less gain than a 6505.


Where do you live?


South bend, Indiana. the used market is absolute shit. so its basically blindly buying a xxx or ultra without ever trying it. also if i decided one fo the peaveys i could do a speaker and tube change no problem. if i go all in on a amp close to a grand. that might be a bit of problem. Another thing is im still a beginner/novice guitar player. i dont know if going all in like that is the right move at this point. its like i kinda feel like im not good enough to have something like that lol. like i dont deserve it or something. Also, Im not certain how much im gonna get. But i know at the very least it would be the xxx or 6505. which isnt too terrible im guessing. I'm just nervous. I have never bought anything this expensive in my entire life. at once lol. when we start talking about 1000.
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Last edited by romeozdistress at Jan 16, 2013,
#63
I paid $2400 for my Mark V and I suck at guitar.

If you can afford to spend some money on yourself then you should. If you don't feel comfortable with 1K on an amp then get the XXX or 6505. If it were me I would go the 6505 route. Just my 2c. I have a 5150 currently as well and I love it.


Edit- your CL sucks.
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#64
Quote by R45VT
I paid $2400 for my Mark V and I suck at guitar.

If you can afford to spend some money on yourself then you should. If you don't feel comfortable with 1K on an amp then get the XXX or 6505. If it were me I would go the 6505 route. Just my 2c. I have a 5150 currently as well and I love it.


Sweet thanks alot. its not just me though, otherwise i really wouldnt care too much. its also convincing my wife haha. im sure some of you know how that goes.

EDIT: yes, it sure in the hell does really bad. a bunch of overpriced garbage.
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#65
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I paid $2400 for my Mark V and I suck at guitar.

Dibs on the flip!
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#66
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Dibs on the flip!


I am getting married this year so I might end up selling it to free up some money. Only if I can spend even more after the wedding.

It's a great amp. My only regret is buying new as opposed to used. Going to take a hit on it for sure.
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#67
those Marks hold their value pretty well. You shouldn't do too bad.
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#68
I wish I wasnt such a lamb of god fanboy, then the mesa wouldnt even be in my thoughts haha. I saw some cool videos on youtube of people playing lamb of god on the 6505 and it sounded nice.
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Last edited by romeozdistress at Jan 16, 2013,
#69
6505 can chug- something the mark cannot do. It's the one thing I hate about the mark. Everything is great. Just no chugga chugga like a 6505.

It's why I ended up getting a the Krankenstein. You feel the chugs in your stomach. Same thing with the 5150/6505.

And just so you know- the mark V's gain setting on 10 is like the 6505s gain setting on 5. (Scale of 1-10)
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#70
Quote by R45VT
6505 can chug- something the mark cannot do. It's the one thing I hate about the mark. Everything is great. Just no chugga chugga like a 6505.

It's why I ended up getting a the Krankenstein. You feel the chugs in your stomach. Same thing with the 5150/6505.

And just so you know- the mark V's gain setting on 10 is like the 6505s gain setting on 5. (Scale of 1-10)


Nice man. ive been doing more research on it and I like what ive seen and heard. pretty cool. just gotta wait for these damn w2s now lol. ive been waiting since summer time. gonna be very nice.
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#71
one other option I was considering since I do play with headphones quite a bit. was maybe a line 6 hd500. i do have some logitech z623s i use for my computer. 200 watts rms. i dont know much about the hd500 but i was just thinking that may be an option. anybody have any experience with this?
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#72
I have a pod XT and love it. It's not as good as the real thing but I can at all night if I want.

I would love an HD model. For the price it's hard to find better.
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#73
Quote by R45VT
I have a pod XT and love it. It's not as good as the real thing but I can at all night if I want.

I would love an HD model. For the price it's hard to find better.


just wanted to consider it an option. i just dont know how good it would sound vs the 6505 112? but then again i cant use my headphones with the 6505. i guess i need to read more about it and watch some reviews.
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#74
Due to my work hours I play my pod more then all of my amp out together. Easy for recording as well.

Get the 112 and a bean version of the Pod HD. Problem solved.
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#75
TRUE. i always wantted a 2.0
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#76
Quote by romeozdistress
my craigslist is horrible bro. south bend, IN. guitar center might have some cool stuff. they have krank head and mark iv combo they have had for a while. i know I can at least try those out. btw thanks alot guys. id be lost without your help.

Well this is off topic, but we're within a stone's throw from each other my man, amp prices aren't great up here but they aren't bad, not sure where you're finding these awful prices. Try the GC in Merrillville, they have pretty good prices.
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Bastards.
#77
Is this still going? I've never seen anybody be so indecisive about an amp purchase.
Pull you finger out and go buy something already. Go used so you can flip it if you decide it's not for you without losing a heap of money. But ffs, just buy something already.
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#78
Quote by Viban
Well this is off topic, but we're within a stone's throw from each other my man, amp prices aren't great up here but they aren't bad, not sure where you're finding these awful prices. Try the GC in Merrillville, they have pretty good prices.


i noticed that one was pretty awesome. i looked at the store inventory. next time i visit ill have to check that out.
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#80
Quote by romeozdistress
South bend, Indiana. the used market is absolute shit.


I love how you bitch and moan like you live in Siberia, when you are only one to two hours from Chicago. There are plenty of shops there that carry good gear, plus I'm sure the used market is better there.