homeless-john
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So finally, getting round to the end of my second build.

It all started with this body which I picked up on ebay for a great price about 2 years ago, determined that I'd do something with it.



The body is alder, and came finished. It has a couple of cracks in the finish but they're not really noticable and I'm gonna say it adds character.

Picked up a pickguard soon after and gave it a paper mache inspired look.



That was an older photo and it has since been given a few coats of gloss so it looks and feels better.

Then about a year ago came the neck. Maple with rosewood board.



And it's been sitting like that til I've finally been able to put the money into it. Ordered everything else that I need from GFS yesterday and with any luck it should arrive pretty soon and I should be able to get her finished.

The one thing I need is a name, which will be put on the headstock. I'm thinking Penelope or Clementine but I'm open to suggestion.

Progress might be slow but I'll keep this updated as I go.

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+1 for the paper mache fill!
I really dig the way you accented the certain words, highly respectable creativity my friend. You plan to leave the body white, correct? Cuz i feel like the white suits it. Plus, her name should definitely be a more intelligent name. I dig Penelope, hahaha
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Quote by Educated420
+1 for the paper mache fill!
I really dig the way you accented the certain words, highly respectable creativity my friend. You plan to leave the body white, correct? Cuz i feel like the white suits it. Plus, her name should definitely be a more intelligent name. I dig Penelope, hahaha

Thank you!

Also, cheers for the name suggestion but I reckon I'll go with Clementine.

I do like Penelope, but if I ever get round to doing a third build, it's definitely going to be muscle car inspired so I figure muscle car, racing, Wacky Races, Penelope Pitstop, Penelope. Make sense to me.

And I do like Jude but I can't not associate that with the Beatles. Not that that is an entirely bad thing or anything.

I need help with deciding how to finish the neck. I don't know much about this. I was just gonna go with polyurethane which worked well enough on my last guitar, but what's the thought on oil finishes? Amy advantages or problems or personal experiences?
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I was just gonna go with polyurethane which worked well enough on my last guitar, but what's the thought on oil finishes? Amy advantages or problems or personal experiences?


I have a 7 string with a Tru Oil finish on the neck (and body for that matter) and it feels great. Very smooth, very easy to play and doesn't get sticky under sweaty hands like a poly finish might.

7/8 coats, 24 hours between each with very light wet and dry paper/0000 wire wool on the first 5-6 coats and you will have a mighty fine finish that looks great, feels great and is pretty darn hard wearing.
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i dont remember who said it, however usuing steel wool will leave little steel particles in the grain. let me find the thread i saw it in.

EDIT:

here is that thread
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1575579


It can do yes, so extreme care is necessary if you decide to use it. Really, if you use good quality wet and dry paper, you shouldn't need steel wool.
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Thanks for the advice guys!

Looking online, a lot of guides don't mention steel wool as a necessity so I'll probably just use sandpaper. Already got lots of pretty quality stuff in the house anyway.

Only problem is, will it still be possible to put a clear transfer on the headstock? Like, will it stick over the tru oil and will tru oil still be able to go over it?
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Partscasters are the funnest things to put together, and yours looks sick dude!

Cheers!

The package with everything else was last tracked at a sorting facility in New York, so it might be a while still. Even when I get the parts, it's gonna a bit to get it assembled. I half assed some aspects of my last build and I don't want to do any of that this time.
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Only problem is, will it still be possible to put a clear transfer on the headstock? Like, will it stick over the tru oil and will tru oil still be able to go over it?


It'll be fine mate, just put the waterside decal on the bare finished wood then apply oil over it once dry. Just gotta remember not to sand or rub on that area, otherwise you will probably feck it up.

Be fine once all done though
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My GFS order still hasn't arrived. It was last tracked as clearing customs in the UK on the 4th but I haven't heard anything since. Starting to worry to be honest. If worst comes to worst, it's insured but it's getting annoying.

Got some tru oil in though and I'm going ahead with the neck. Preparing it tonight and I'll start the fiest coats tomorrow. I'll have some progress pictures for when I name it I reckon.

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So, after waiting pretty much an entire month for my order from GFS to clear fucking customs, they give me the wrong tailpiece.

I imagine that I'm now gonna have to send it back which will take ages to process and wait even longer for them to send the item they should have fucking sent in the first place.

I don't like to complain but fucking hell.
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Images incoming, this time resized to a non-ridiculous size.

The neck, finished with tru-oil. It's hard to tell from the picture but I think it turned out pretty good. Smooth as hell, glossy and it feels great.



Some shots of the assorted hardware.





A couple of lovely lipstick pickups.



And the roller part of the Bigsby clone bridge.



As mentioned in my previous post, I got the wrong tremolo. Thankfully, GFS acted really quick to sort it out and the correct one should be posted soon. Also, I get to keep the tremolo they sent. I've not really got any use for it myself, so if anyone is interested give me a shout. Here it is.



Also, I'm gonna need to make the pickup slot in the pickguard bigger. What's the best way to do this without ****ing up the newspaper layer?
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Not sure if anyone is paying attention to this but I'm on the home stretch of this build. The replacement tremolo is in, the pickguard has been modded to fit the pickup and all pilot holes have been drilled.

I should have some pics up later today but I've got a quick question first.

If my neckplate is one of the ultra thick chrome ones (so no plastic between the neckplate and the body) will I be able to run the ground wire to it?
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For the pickguard I'd use a sharp blade to score an outline through the newspaper before working on it.

Grounding to the neckplate doesn't work, because you don't touch the neckplate the whole time you're playing. Ground wires need to go to the bridge so that when you touch the strings you complete the circuit or whatever.

The beauty with Tele bridges is that the screws connect to that brass plate on the pickup and do most of the work for you
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For the pickguard I'd use a sharp blade to score an outline through the newspaper before working on it.

Grounding to the neckplate doesn't work, because you don't touch the neckplate the whole time you're playing. Ground wires need to go to the bridge so that when you touch the strings you complete the circuit or whatever.

The beauty with Tele bridges is that the screws connect to that brass plate on the pickup and do most of the work for you

I ended up just sanding/filing the pickguard. It turned out a little ragedy but not so much that it looks bad.

And even with that, would it still be necessary for me to attach the ground wire from the pot to the bridge and should I solder it or is the wire pressing against the bridge enough?

I suck so bad at wiring.
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You should just need to solder a wire between the back of each pot.

The jack should ground to the back of a pot, and both picups should too.

That should be everything, because the screws take the current through from the pickup blate to the bridge.

I suck at wiring too, so I really hope I'm remembering this correctly
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It sounds about right about to me. I'm sure with your advice and some wiring diagrams I can work it out. Cheers!

And I bought a pre-wired control plate so the potential to **** up was as small as possible.

Anyway, the neck is now firmly attached to the body. Gonna take some time to relax and get something to eat then hopefully do the wiring tonight so long as nothing else comes up. Pictures will be included in my later posts.
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Not gonna get it done tonight because pub.

Here are a couple images though. Again, sorry for crappy quality.

The new tremolo. Chunky as all hell.



And the body and neck, all ready to be tarted up.



So yeah, I'll come at this tomorrow with a fresh head and get it done with any amount of luck.

EDIT: If you turn your head to the left, the trem kinda looks like it's got a little face. Cannot unsee.
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MY GOD IT HAD A MONACLE!!

Yeah, I'm punning too, possibly even clubbing :/
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I really need to sort out this wiring. Trying to wrap my head around it.

So I've got the control plate, that's pre-wired and I know where the wires go. One for the ground and two for the jack.

The confusion is where the wires from the pick up go. I've got 3 wires per pickup. A red, a white and an unshielded wire. According to the sheet with it, the red is positive and the white is the ground but it says nothing about the non-insulated one.

Where do all these wires connect to? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The non-insulated one will be the ground for the casing. That joins the other grounds. The positive goes to the switch, the ground goes to ground with the unshielded one.

Managed to work it out. The answer was actually right there in the note that came with the pickup, I just couldn't see it for looking at it. Cheers for your help anyway!

So yeah, she's done. Over 2 years from buying the first part to completetion. Total cost was a little over £200, not including postage costs. I'm proud of how it turned out. The wiring inside is pretty ghetto looking, a lot of tape in there but it seems to have done the trick. There's a few cosmetic imperfections too but I doubt it's something anyone would notice much and it adds some "character" to it.

Also, there's something I forgot to get. If you pay close attention and have a keen eye, you might just figure out what that something is.

Without any further delay, meet Clementine.













I'll buy strings tomorrow and do a set up and she'll be up and running with any luck. Will get some more pics too probably if y'all want.

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String trees?

Nut? (I think there's a black one there, right?)

You should drill it for through body stringing, so you can have only certain strings attatched to the tremelo if you want
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String trees?

Nut? (I think there's a black one there, right?)

You should drill it for through body stringing, so you can have only certain strings attatched to the tremelo if you want

The nut is there and I have string tees. Just not sure if I want to attach them yet, we'll see how I feel when it's strung.

And it's already drilled through body and the holes match up pretty well with the bridge so I could if I wanted. Have a b-bender thing going on. I wanna try the tremolo out fully first though. See how I like it.
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Ah cool!

Wait, was the thing you forgot just strings?

If so, then that's pretty disappointing