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#41
Jenson did win 3 races last year, its the bad days he needs to minimize.

Yes marussia will run kers.
#42
I hope Marussia continues to improve like they were doing in 2012. It's always good to see new teams get better and better every year!

A lot of people have been saying that McLaren will base their car exclusively around Jenson's driving style, since Perez has a similar approach and considering the fact that he will be their number one driver. If that's true, I think Button can be a serious championship contender if he does, as Boxhead said, "minimize his bad days".
"You have brains in your head,
You have feet in your shoes,
You can steer yourself,
any direction you choose,
You're on your own,
And you know what you know,
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go."

- Dr. Seuss
#43
Minimizing the bad days is how Alonso was able to stay so strong throughout the whole year. Days where he knew he couldnt win, he would pick up minor points paying places and not retire. Consolidation king. It's also how Jamie Whincup was able to win the V8SC championship this year, the FPR cars were just as fast but on off days they were REALLY off and out of it.
#44
Button has never, in his entire F1 career, been good at minimizing the bad days. Saw this constantly with BAR.

When he's good, he's untouchable, but far too often he's not good. The only way he is going to get close to winning the WDC this season is if that McLaren is the equivalent of the Brawn.
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#45
Quote by Khann
Button has never, in his entire F1 career, been good at minimizing the bad days. Saw this constantly with BAR.

When he's good, he's untouchable, but far too often he's not good. The only way he is going to get close to winning the WDC this season is if that McLaren is the equivalent of the Brawn.


So much this it hurts.

Don't let your boat be empty, don't be a sunken dream
Don't let the boat regret thee, for what you could have seen

#47
2004 was a pretty good year for Jenson too. The BAR was a stonkingly good car though (although not as good as the Fez). I still giggle at the fact that he was practically naming right sponsor to Williams in the mid 2000s with his contract flip-flopping and had to personally buy himself out of what he had signed with them.
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#49
something I happened across the other day that is actually relevant if we're talking 2004.


Don't let your boat be empty, don't be a sunken dream
Don't let the boat regret thee, for what you could have seen

#50
^mmmm

Ron still having sour grapes about Hami. He must be feeling the pressure. Not sure how I feel about him.
Mclaren have a history of letting their best drivers go. Senna, Alonso, Raikkonen, Montoya now Hamilton whilst they keep drivers like Coulthard and Button for ages.
#51
I still miss that Jaguar livery, 9 years on

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He's going to batter Bottas. Aye, stick that in your sig Bill

#53
I don't know why but I think that livery is ugly as ****.
"You have brains in your head,
You have feet in your shoes,
You can steer yourself,
any direction you choose,
You're on your own,
And you know what you know,
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go."

- Dr. Seuss
#56
Red is the best colour to go racing in, and that's a fact. Everyone knows that red cars go faster.
"You have brains in your head,
You have feet in your shoes,
You can steer yourself,
any direction you choose,
You're on your own,
And you know what you know,
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go."

- Dr. Seuss
#57
I like the Jaguar colours but it would've been heaps better if it was all green. Best green coloured car from memory would be this. (Apart from 60's Lotus)



And the writing is on the wall for Webber. Helmut Marko has come out saying he's a designated support driver for Vettel and the season hasn't started yet.
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#58
British Racing Green is an amazing colour to go racing in, 50'sVanwalls, 50's 60's Lotuses and old Le Mans Jaguars, they were all gorgeous and won plenty at the highest levels
#60
ohai 2013 thread

i've added the current calendar to the first post. if anyone has any other content that could be added feel free to pass it along to me.
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#62
Quote by Rebel Scum
And the writing is on the wall for Webber. Helmut Marko has come out saying he's a designated support driver for Vettel and the season hasn't started yet.


Honestly, take everything Marko says about Webber with a grain of salt. He seems to have it in for him.

Quote by sam b
He's going to batter Bottas. Aye, stick that in your sig Bill

#64
for the UK viewers: suzi perri to be presenting this year... should be interesting. she has high shoes to fill - jake was really good.

i think she did motorbike racing (i dont follow it at all but have huge respect for those guys) and if memory serves me well she did an ok job with it.

...meh she is hot so its all good i guess.

hopefully mark makes marko eat his words!
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Oh man thats amazing, you win midi pure. I don't care whether it's a competition or not


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could have been 3 's but there wasn't nearly enough exclamation marks to emphasize the anger/disbelief

oh yeah
#65
Wch. I finally have bbc hd and they put bloody suzi perry on. Now I can see the sweaty creases in her leathers in 1080p glory

Don't let your boat be empty, don't be a sunken dream
Don't let the boat regret thee, for what you could have seen

#66
Quote by Blayney
Wch. I finally have bbc hd and they put bloody suzi perry on. Now I can see the sweaty creases in her leathers in 1080p glory


Nice image

I'm looking forward to this one bit at a time. The car releases should be interesting.

Do McLaren still have their Vodafone sponsorship?
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#68
Quote by demonsheep
Nice image

I'm looking forward to this one bit at a time. The car releases should be interesting.

Do McLaren still have their Vodafone sponsorship?

Yep they do. I'm a bit bored of that look now to be honest.
#70
Quote by TEK34
Yep they do. I'm a bit bored of that look now to be honest.


Just read that it expires at the end of 2013, but they'll probably renew it i guess.

Looking forward to seeing what the Lotus will look like, as well as the Sauber and to see if the McLaren has any Telmex stuff on it at all.
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#71
im looking forward to the caterhams' release. dat green and yellow paint-job makes it look the best car on the grid.

but respect to mclaren how they managed to avoid that ugly 'duck bill' nose. sleek lines= more speed! (similar to go racing stripes)
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Oh man thats amazing, you win midi pure. I don't care whether it's a competition or not


Quote by halvies


could have been 3 's but there wasn't nearly enough exclamation marks to emphasize the anger/disbelief

oh yeah
#73
i hope so, but i dont think so. they say to maximise aero and at the same time stay within the rules the only way to do it is to have the step-nose.

hopefully most teams go for the redbull approach, where it was a slope rather than the ugly mercedes which just suddenly started. it looked horrible. i guess paint scheme also draws more or less attention to it depending on how its done.

i say the mclaren engineers should just tell everyone how they managed to do follow the rules and avoid the step-nose, so everyone can just follow them
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Oh man thats amazing, you win midi pure. I don't care whether it's a competition or not


Quote by halvies


could have been 3 's but there wasn't nearly enough exclamation marks to emphasize the anger/disbelief

oh yeah
#74
I completely forgot step-nose existed after about one race.
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#75
Good point simmy. It will be interesting to see which way McLaren go though.

Don't let your boat be empty, don't be a sunken dream
Don't let the boat regret thee, for what you could have seen

#77
Quote by PeZ546
There's a new rule this year which allows them to cover it with a 'modesty panel' or something like that.


Ah well remembered. Less step nose it is then.

Also middle of page two with no real championship predictions? C'mon...

WDC : Alonso
Runner up : Vettel

WCC : RBR

I think Massa will do well this year and Ferrari will run RBR far closer in the Constructors than anyone has of late.

I think Button will get a few podiums and a win or two, Perez won't win, but will finish 3rd atleast twice.

Hamilton will get it all together for one glorious weekend. Probably Canada. Other than that there won't be much, however he will have some great drives.

Webber will sadly play even more second fiddle to Vettel. He will grow beards quicker than any other driver though.

Maldonado will show a lot of pace and slightly better results. Williams won't improve much. Torro Rosso will fall further into the clutches of Marussia and Caterham, all three teams will suck though.

Force India will be behind Sauber and Mercedes.

Don't let your boat be empty, don't be a sunken dream
Don't let the boat regret thee, for what you could have seen

#78
Quote by bill976
Honestly, take everything Marko says about Webber with a grain of salt. He seems to have it in for him.


He's the boss. (Apart from Dietrich) You think Red Bull would have trouble filling his seat if he don't comply? Webber is winding down to retirement, as much as I hate to say it and his results in the last three years have pigeon holed him. If you were a team boss would you still offer equal treatment considering the results of the last three years? **** no.
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#79
Quote by Rebel Scum
He's the boss.


No he isn't. He's just an advisor and also Vettel's manager, I believe. Apart from running the junior team (of which Vettel was a part of, of course), he doesn't have too much say in the hiring and firing of drivers.

Quote by Rebel Scum
Webber is winding down to retirement, as much as I hate to say it and his results in the last three years have pigeon holed him.


Sadly, I agree.

If you were a team boss would you still offer equal treatment considering the results of the last three years? **** no.


Hmmm, tricky. I don't want to see anything like "maintain the gap" again, but, I don't know.

Quote by sam b
He's going to batter Bottas. Aye, stick that in your sig Bill

Last edited by bill976 at Jan 6, 2013,
#80
I'd let them race equally - kinda keeps them on each other's toes and maybe perform just a bit better and stops them getting complacent within the team (I could be wrong though and that this could even hinder them).
Then when a clear leader emerges, focus towards them. Simple.
Especially considering Vettel still has his entire career in front of him, might as well "reward" your retiring driver with the possibility to succeed.
Let him go out on form, respectably.
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