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vince--hey
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I need help for which amp i should get.

Budget: around 300$

Genres: i like to play classic rock, like Led Zeppelin.

New or used: either as long as it is in mint condition.

Home or Gig: i play at home although sometimes i play shows at school with their equipment.

Closest City: i live in Canada, Laval and there are two music stores near my house: Nantel Musique, and Italmelodie.

Current Gear: i have a Fender Squier, a Fender Frontman Amp , and a Boss Metal Zone Mt-2.

So if you can help me get a Led Zeppelin tone it would be really helpfull. i will also soon be upgrading my guitar
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how loud can you play at home?

those gigs at school, you're using their amps, right?

do you only need a led zeppelin type of tone or do you need other tones too? if so, what are they?
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Quote by Dave_Mc
how loud can you play at home?

those gigs at school, you're using their amps, right?

do you only need a led zeppelin type of tone or do you need other tones too? if so, what are they?


i could play pretty loud my parents dont mind. i use their amps. i play zeppelin and blink 182 and bands like that
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I'd say for zeppelin on a 300 budget, look for maybe a used marshall dsl series combo? I've been able to get some good zep overdrive sounds on an overdriven blues jr and a phaser (for the jimmy page nasally out of phase tone) Both of which you might be able to find 300-350 used and can definetely fill an auditorium, but you need a new guitar too.. Another good one thats a maybe, not quite gainy enough for a lot if zeppelin, but it hits a lot of it, as well as the clean stuff (Ten years gone, etc) Is a Fender Super champ. Its in your budget too.
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For that money and for playing at home only: Yamaha THR10.
There's also the THR10C which does more variations of low to medium gain rock tones and - for 100 bucks less - the THR5 which is the smaller version of the 'normal' THR, which is kind of the all-rounder of the bunch.

Those little things sound absolutely great for playing at home, they are very easy to use and easy to record via USB.
Don't let the size put you off.

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I would go with a used Peavey Valveking 112. It's got good cleans and its low to mid gain tones are quite decent. it won't quite be the "cranked little amp within an inch of death" tone JP got a lot (page used a lot of smaller amps in studio), but it will be in the right ballpark.

otherwise, a used orange tiny terror combo could be pretty good too.
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amp. your guitar isn't great, but your amp is worse. It really wouldn't matter what guitar you threw in front of that amp, it would still sound like a hobo farting in a trashcan.

also, please get rid of the metal zone. they aren't any good really.
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okay but which amp do you guys think is the best for zeppelin and blink 182 tone
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Quote by vince--hey
okay but which amp do you guys think is the best for zeppelin and blink 182 tone

very different tones.. what do you need more
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very different tones.. what do you need more


im thinking more led zeppelin
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Quote by vince--hey

I'm personally not a big fan of the line 6 modelers, i really dislike them, because they mask the tone and dont take pedals too well, but if your alright with a modeller, thats a great deal, theyre very versatile for a beginner who cant really afford the effect pedals and different amps for their styles.
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I'm personally not a big fan of the line 6 modelers, i really dislike them, because they mask the tone and dont take pedals too well, but if your alright with a modeller, thats a great deal, theyre very versatile for a beginner who cant really afford the effect pedals and different amps for their styles.


i dont think im going to go for it
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Quote by vince--hey
okay but which amp do you guys think is the best for zeppelin and blink 182 tone


You can't go wrong with a Peavey, tube or ss, built like tanks. I have 4 of them, 2 of which are 30 + years old and still cranking like new. I use my 212 Stereo Chorus with a Johnson J Station Processor mostly. I too love Zepplin and the 212 SC works great for that. The 212 SC is out of production and I don't know what Peavey currently offers that is comparable, but again you can't go wrong with a Peavey.
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Quote by ZepJunkie
I'm personally not a big fan of the line 6 modelers, i really dislike them, because they mask the tone and dont take pedals too well, but if your alright with a modeller, thats a great deal, theyre very versatile for a beginner who cant really afford the effect pedals and different amps for their styles.


IMHO Line 6 sounds like crap. Johnson J Station is a much better amp modeler.
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-super-champ-x2-15w-1x10-tube-guitar-combo-amp
^Very nice for the money, not quite gainy enough for stuff like no quarter and moby dick.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/crate-v-series-v33-212-33w-2x12-tube-guitar-combo-amp
^Highly reccomended, but you need pedals to overdrive, just awful od channel
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-mustang-iii-100w-1x12-guitar-combo-amp
^Best for the first "real" amp. All the onboard effects get you all your tones, and sounds pretty good for modeller.

And no stay as far away from the mg line as you can, seriously.
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Quote by vince--hey
would a marshall mg30fx amp be good


no.

they're absolutely horrific amps.
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no.

they're absolutely horrific amps.

sorry im kind of a noob when it comes to amps but what would b better a fender mustang 100 watt or a peavey vypyr 75
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Quote by vince--hey
sorry im kind of a noob when it comes to amps but what would b better a fender mustang 100 watt or a peavey vypyr 75

Depends, how much are you willing to dup into effects pedals, because to get all my tones i have 3 different amps and prob 1500 bucks worth of pedals.. But a modeller you only need one amp, but it wont sound nearly as good, but if your not getting paid to do it, thats more than good.

As a first amp, i'd say mustang
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Quote by vince--hey
sorry im kind of a noob when it comes to amps but what would b better a fender mustang 100 watt or a peavey vypyr 75


In the 60s Fender made the best combos, but IMHO Peavey has been making much better amps than Fender for the past 30 years
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I'm still standing by the VK 112.

you don't need a pile of different sounds to get into blink and zep territory. I would suggest bypassing the modelling amps and getting a decent 2 channel tube amp. you won't get the variety of sounds, but the sounds you get will be way stronger.
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I'm still standing by the VK 112.

you don't need a pile of different sounds to get into blink and zep territory. I would suggest bypassing the modelling amps and getting a decent 2 channel tube amp. you won't get the variety of sounds, but the sounds you get will be way stronger.


okay and which 2 channel tube amp would you recommend
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In the 60s Fender made the best combos, but IMHO Peavey has been making much better amps than Fender for the past 30 years

While I have recommended Peaveys myself, I still take them on a case by case basis.

After a side-by-side comparison of several brands when shopping for myself, the Peavey kicked itself out of the final 3 by delivering some real icepicks to the ears- both when I tried it, and when the salesman did as well.

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Quote by vince--hey
would a marshall mg30fx amp be good

No.

The Super Champ wouldn't be bad, for No Quarter and such you can pop a fuzz pedal on. Or just always use a fuzz pedal.

The Peavey Classic 30 is a solid amp. My friend's dad has one, and it doesn't have enough gain for heavier styles, but that shouldn't worry you. They've got great cleans, a nice overdrive, and they're pretty inexpensive.

I would personally go for an Orange Tiny Terror combo, used you can get a combo by stretching your budget a little. Page used Orange on one of his recent tours and raved over them, so there's that.
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Quote by krehzeekid

you don't need a pile of different sounds to get into blink and zep territory. I would suggest bypassing the modelling amps and getting a decent 2 channel tube amp. you won't get the variety of sounds, but the sounds you get will be way stronger.


+1

i'm not really sure of what's available for $300, but that sounds like sound advice.
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Quote by Dave_Mc


i'm not really sure of what's available for $300, but that sounds like sound advice.


Like nothing.

You don't start to find solid 2-channel tube amps until the $400+ range. At $300 or less, you're still looking at sub-5w one channel items, like the Champion or Vox AC4TV.
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Like nothing.

You don't start to find solid 2-channel tube amps until the $400+ range. At $300 or less, you're still looking at sub-5w one channel items, like the Champion or Vox AC4TV.


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Mate, you've already made a thread like this. How come you've changed your requirements? Are you spamming? First you said you want a metal tone, like avenged sevenfold - now you're saying you want classic rock like Zeppelin.

There's a big difference between the two tones, in classic rock the mids are emphasized whereas in new metal bands, they tend to scoop them.

We already gave you suggestions for a used 6505+ combo but since you can't afford one you said you would settle with a Vypyr.

Don't bother with an MG or a Spyder. Probably the two worst modelers you can buy.

I'm now going to assume you don't want to play metal, and just want a classic rock/182 tone. So I'm going to recommend a used AC15 or used Peavey Classic 30.

Trust us, and listen to our advice. Otherwise you can go ahead and waste your money.
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Quote by krehzeekid
It really wouldn't matter what guitar you threw in front of that amp, it would still sound like a hobo farting in a trashcan.


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Quote by Volcz
Mate, you've already made a thread like this. How come you've changed your requirements? Are you spamming? First you said you want a metal tone, like avenged sevenfold - now you're saying you want classic rock like Zeppelin.

There's a big difference between the two tones, in classic rock the mids are emphasized whereas in new metal bands, they tend to scoop them.

We already gave you suggestions for a used 6505+ combo but since you can't afford one you said you would settle with a Vypyr.

Don't bother with an MG or a Spyder. Probably the two worst modelers you can buy.

I'm now going to assume you don't want to play metal, and just want a classic rock/182 tone. So I'm going to recommend a used AC15 or used Peavey Classic 30.

Trust us, and listen to our advice. Otherwise you can go ahead and waste your money.


ya im not spamming and i didnt mean to affend you its just that i play both classic rock/182 and metal, but i was debating weather to get 182 or metal tone thats it and i wanted to see which amps were the best for both tones. i decided to go with the blink tone. like i said i didnt mean to affend you and if i did for whatever reason, im sorry.
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Quote by Volcz
Mate, you've already made a thread like this. How come you've changed your requirements? Are you spamming? First you said you want a metal tone, like avenged sevenfold - now you're saying you want classic rock like Zeppelin.

There's a big difference between the two tones, in classic rock the mids are emphasized whereas in new metal bands, they tend to scoop them.

We already gave you suggestions for a used 6505+ combo but since you can't afford one you said you would settle with a Vypyr.

Don't bother with an MG or a Spyder. Probably the two worst modelers you can buy.

I'm now going to assume you don't want to play metal, and just want a classic rock/182 tone. So I'm going to recommend a used AC15 or used Peavey Classic 30.

Trust us, and listen to our advice. Otherwise you can go ahead and waste your money.


hey is a peavey vypyr and a sanpera 2 for 400$ a good deal or 350$ for a fender superchamp
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Quote by vince--hey
hey is a peavey vypyr and a sanpera 2 for 400$ a good deal or 350$ for a fender superchamp

Which Vypyr? 30 or 75 with a Sanpera, not really. Tube combo, probably, depending on condition.
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Which Vypyr? 30 or 75 with a Sanpera, not really. Tube combo, probably, depending on condition.


vypyr 75
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Guitar Center has a used Vypyr 60 with a Sanpera for $249.99 and they ship to Canada...
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