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#1
Even in places where homosexuality is legal there is still violence towards this group of people. Be it bullying or a physical attack.

Right, I understand that some, if not most, religions have a problems with gays, but is this the only place where core gay hate comes from?

I was thinking of some stand up by Louis C.K. about how he can understand hate against gays if they were crossing dicks in front of him while eating cereal or shagging on the lawn when he wants to mow it, but they don't do that...so what's the big deal?

I understand that parts of America in particular has an obsession with gays and most everyone has heard of the Westboro Baptist Church and all, but I don't wanna have an 'MURICA and bible thread.

I've seen some verbal assault on homosexuals, which I find stupid, but I understand even less how someone can think "Oh, that guy is a homo, I'm gonna let him know that I know he's a homo and call him a fag and then I'm gonna punch his face in".

What's the deal, yo?
#4
Doesn't this kind of discussion belong in that one gay thread?

Edit: Oh, well OT: That kind of hate happens all the time though, and to more people than just the gays. None of it is justified, but its something that can't be helped. Almost like a mental disease.

That's all I have to contribute to this thread.
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#8
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#9
'cause the world is a shit place with some shit people' is my answer. Homophobia is unjustifiable and never will be. We'd save a whole lot of time and money if these assholes just saw a shrink a couple times a week.
#10
Ignorance and religion.

EDIT: Oh wait... it's just ignorance.
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#11
because stupid people

why is there racism, why is there sexism, why is the hobbit such a shitty movie? stupid people

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#12
I disagree with the lifestyle, but they're just like other human beings too. Sure they all have a multitude of emotional baggage but I would never harm another human being unless it was out of the act of self-defense.

Anyway, I don't understand why people actually get physically violent and kill/maim/hurt homosexuals.
#15
Greg Puciato (TDEP frontman) raised a good point in saying that masculinity insecurity issues play a big part in perpetuating homophobia in heavy metal music, so I wouldn't be surprised if those issues also exist outside of heavy metal. It's really the only reason I can think of aside from religion to be homophobic.
#16
Idk
It's over simplified, So what!

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#17
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I disagree with the lifestyle, but they're just like other human beings too. Sure they all have a multitude of emotional baggage

gay people?
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I disagree with the lifestyle, but they're just like other human beings too. Sure they all have a multitude of emotional baggage but I would never harm another human being unless it was out of the act of self-defense.

Anyway, I don't understand why people actually get physically violent and kill/maim/hurt homosexuals.

You'd have a lot of emotional baggage too if you were stereotyped and viewed as weird/unnatural at every turn.
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Greg Puciato (TDEP frontman) raised a good point in saying that masculinity insecurity issues play a big part in perpetuating homophobia in heavy metal music, so I wouldn't be surprised if those issues also exist outside of heavy metal. It's really the only reason I can think of aside from religion to be homophobic.

where dos this stereotype of metalheads being homophobes come from? in my experience metalheads are generally cool with that sort of thing
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#22
Because people are uneducated and basically don't care if what they say or do hurts someone.

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where dos this stereotype of metalheads being homophobes come from? in my experience metalheads are generally cool with that sort of thing

Yea, from what I've seen most musicians are pretty accepting people. There are exceptions of course though.
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#23
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#24
Cause people fear that which is taboo, homosexuality is not the only one. Eventually at some point humanity will take another evolutionary jump and maybe then people really wont care who other people are ****ing in their spare time.
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#25
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Ignorance and religion.

EDIT: Oh wait... it's just religion.


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#26
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where dos this stereotype of metalheads being homophobes come from? in my experience metalheads are generally cool with that sort of thing

Exactly! Every metalhead I've experienced always seems quite butthurt. I can only imagine it is from taking a dick in the ass. So they must be cool with it.
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#27
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where dos this stereotype of metalheads being homophobes come from? in my experience metalheads are generally cool with that sort of thing
I found it in a snippet about Dave Mustaine talking about his views on gay marriage, although Greg's comment was in reference to a question a fan asked him: http://www.gregpuciato.com/post/17789892027/greg-i-am-a-huge-fan-of-your-work-with-dillinger-and-a

I think it really fluctuates across the board. Not everyone's cool with it, but a lot of people are.
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I disagree with the lifestyle, but they're just like other human beings too. Sure they all have a multitude of emotional baggage but I would never harm another human being unless it was out of the act of self-defense.

wut?
#30
Some people feel that bringing others down lifts them up and the only groups you can get away with openly hating nowadays are fanatics, fags and fat people.

Although of those 3, hatred of gays is probably the least acceptable.
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#31
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Some people feel that bringing others down lifts them up and the only groups you can get away with openly hating nowadays are fanatics, fags and fat people.

Although of those 3, hatred of gays is probably the least acceptable.


Given that obesity and fanaticism (usually) are self-inflicted I don't see why they aren't fair game.
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#32
"I don't understand it, therefore it's wrong, and I am morally obligated to stand against it"
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#34
Most people I know are quite accepting of it.

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Some people feel that bringing others down lifts them up and the only groups you can get away with openly hating nowadays are fanatics, fags and fat people.

Although of those 3, hatred of gays is probably the least acceptable.

Fat people should be publicly shunned, it's for their own good.
#35
I'm very disappointed the first post wasn't the vin diesel op is a fag got image.
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#36
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Fat people should be publicly shunned, it's for their own good.


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Given that obesity and fanaticism (usually) are self-inflicted I don't see why they aren't fair game.


Thanks for confirming my point...
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#37
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I'm very disappointed the first post wasn't the vin diesel op is a fag got image.


I'm pleasantly surprised. Shows some maturity in the Pit.
#38
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I found it in a snippet about Dave Mustaine talking about his views on gay marriage, although Greg's comment was in reference to a question a fan asked him: http://www.gregpuciato.com/post/17789892027/greg-i-am-a-huge-fan-of-your-work-with-dillinger-and-a

I think it really fluctuates across the board. Not everyone's cool with it, but a lot of people are.


Mustaine's admitted it's because he's Christian though, hasn't he?
Either way, I've never heard of homophobia being associated with Metal.
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Either way, I've never heard of homophobia being associated with Metal.

wut?