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#41
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Mustaine's admitted it's because he's Christian though, hasn't he?
Either way, I've never heard of homophobia being associated with Metal.
He has.

And maybe it's just because I'm from Texas, but the old breed of metal seemed to have a bit of homophobia in it. You don't see it as much these days, what with the internet and the youth of today bringing new blood into metal.
#42
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wut?

I really can't think of ever hearing that.

I've heard it associated with rap and county but not any of other kind of music I can think of.
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she was saying things like... do you want to netflix and chill but just the chill part...too bad she'll never know that I only like the Netflix part...
#43
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#44
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of the people i know, it's the atheists that are the really homophobic ones

Scotland is a weird and backwards place.
#46
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He has.

And maybe it's just because I'm from Texas, but the old breed of metal seemed to have a bit of homophobia in it. You don't see it as much these days, what with the internet and the youth of today bringing new blood into metal.


I don't know.
I'm from Toronto, so... everyone is pretty accepting in general. I knew kids who were out in middle school and never once got bullied. I've never really known or seen homophobia at all; except for like, when my sister watches Glee.
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#47
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He has.

And maybe it's just because I'm from Texas, but the old breed of metal seemed to have a bit of homophobia in it. You don't see it as much these days, what with the internet and the youth of today bringing new blood into metal.

Yes very homophobic

#48
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of the people i know, it's the atheists that are the really homophobic ones


We all know that that isn't true, or at least isn't correlative.
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#49
Quote by Tsar66
of the people i know, it's the atheists that are the really homophobic ones

I think he means that a lot of it stems from religion. A person doesn't have to religious to be homophobic though. I definitely know a lot of atheists who are very homophobic.

It's mostly just ignorance
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she was saying things like... do you want to netflix and chill but just the chill part...too bad she'll never know that I only like the Netflix part...
#50
The concept of being attracted to your own gender is of no concern to me. Do what you will.

Most of the gays i meet are really nice and helpful, honestly. There are some, though, that could probably use some therapy.
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#51
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Fixed.


Nope, actually ignorance is more of an umbrella term. Religion falls under ignorance IMO. You could say that ignorance falls under religion, but for the purposes of this thread I think ignorance fits far better.

Religion is more of a niche of ignorance, and in many ways religion and ignorance are very different.

EDIT: People already mentioned it, but you don't have to be religious to be homophobic. You do have to be ignorant though, and I have never seen/heard anything/anyone which could disprove this.
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#53
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yeah ik that, it's just blaming all on religion is kinda unfair


Well without the millennial homophobia caused solely by religion we wouldn't have anywhere near the problem we currently do have.

Edit: Saying that homophobia is based purely on ignorance is being far too lenient on homophobes. Ignorance is nothing wrong; homophobia requires ignorance, sociopathy, desire for control over others, etc etc. It's not a question of ignorance, not solely.
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#56
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#57
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You know, there's a pretty good reason why Rob Halford stayed in the closet until 1998. Part of it had to do with his bandmates wanting to protect the image of the band, apparently.

Well they still looked pretty gay.
#58
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As long as those ******s don't bother me I don't give a shit.


Oh, and homophobia requires someone to be a complete insecure pussy, did I mention that?
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#60
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Well without the millennial homophobia caused solely by religion we wouldn't have anywhere near the problem we currently do have.

good point

metal is pretty much the worst genre for homophobia, & that's on top of the misogyny & other shitty stuff that's already there
#62
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good point

metal is pretty much the worst genre for homophobia, & that's on top of the misogyny & other shitty stuff that's already there

whawhat?

Surely hip-hop would win out? Freddie Mercury, Paul Masvidal, Rob Halford....

Edit: I don't believe I've ever heard the word 'faggot' in a metal song...
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#63
Quote by jetfuel495
You know, there's a pretty good reason why Rob Halford stayed in the closet until 1998. Part of it had to do with his bandmates wanting to protect the image of the band, apparently.


From what I remember from some thrash metal documentary I watched awhile back, there was lots of racism and homophobia in metal back in the '80s.

Things have changed a lot since then.
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#64
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good point

metal is pretty much the worst genre for homophobia, & that's on top of the misogyny & other shitty stuff that's already there

Ever listened to a lot of rap and hip-hop?
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she was saying things like... do you want to netflix and chill but just the chill part...too bad she'll never know that I only like the Netflix part...
#65
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Oh, and homophobia requires someone to be a complete insecure pussy, did I mention that?




Sounds about right.

This is a bit off-topic, but this sounds a lot like Jew hate. All of my life I have never understood why the Holocaust happened. From what I have gathered over time, it sounds to me like people got jealous of Jews making more money than them and decided to level the playing field like a bunch of children. Can't think of a better reason than that, but honestly I haven't really researched it that much.

Lots of this comes from watching Family Guy; that's all I've got...
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#66
Quote by whywefight
whawhat?

Surely hip-hop would win out? Freddie Mercury, Paul Masvidal, Rob Halford....

Edit: I don't believe I've ever heard the word 'faggot' in a metal song...

Everyone from the rap group OFWGKA came out to being homosexual a year ago
#67
There are a lot of very stupid people who have been taught by their stupid parents to hate gays.

I myself hate it when any "minority" gets offended by every little thing then calls people "racist" or "homophobe" (<--- they can't even say it right), but I don't hate the "minority" itself. I am not alone and stupid people should listen to us.
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#68
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Oh, and homophobia requires someone to be a complete insecure pussy, did I mention that?



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#69
Quote by JimDawson
From what I remember from some thrash metal documentary I watched awhile back, there was lots of racism and homophobia in metal back in the '80s.

Things have changed a lot since then.
Sounds about right.

From what I remember, that type of stuff was prevalent in the punk community too, until some groups took a stand and literally fought the homophobes and racists out of the venues.
#71
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Ever listened to a lot of rap and hip-hop?


They use it as an insult to non-gays, but when Frank ocean came out, the industry was actually very supportive.
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#72
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#73
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#74
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Everyone from the rap group OFWGKA came out to being homosexual a year ago

Everyone? I'm looking at wikipedia, and it looks like there's at least ten central members plus about fifty occasional members.
#75
Quote by whywefight
whawhat?

Surely hip-hop would win out? Freddie Mercury, Paul Masvidal, Rob Halford....

Queen aren't really metal, idk who Paul Masvidal is, Rob Halford had to stay closeted for years 'cuz the band feared people's reactions. & there's gay guys in hip hop, i.e. Frank Ocean who got loads of support when he came out

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Ever listened to a lot of rap and hip-hop?

they're pretty much equally bad
#76
in my experience, the metal circles locally are unsafe for queer people. i assume it's the same way most places.
#77
Quote by whywefight
Everyone? I'm looking at wikipedia, and it looks like there's at least ten central members plus about fifty occasional members.


it was a big closet
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#79
Heavy Metal subculture isn't a homogenous subculture. For that matter neither is the subculture surrounding rap and hip hop, which makes these arguments even less productive of anything interesting and more redundant than they were in the first place.
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