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DESTROYER5000
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Hey all I am building a guitar and would like to know the difference between a regular jack versus a barrel jack
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A barrel jack has the advantage of mounting flush with the body.

Personally, I don't use them as they tend to go bad too quickly for my tastes. If you want flush mount and reliability, I seriously recommend one of these. You might be able to find sellers on eBay who won't charge so much after shipping.
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Also what has everyone heard about about dragonfire guitar pickups cause i want to by the quad rail humbuckers
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Also what has everyone heard about about dragonfire guitar pickups cause i want to by the quad rail humbuckers

I had a humbucker from them and all I can say is you get what you pay for..
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I had a humbucker from them and all I can say is you get what you pay for..

Basically this. I had the screamers, they were very underwhelming.
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Meaning they sucked or were just average because the ones I want are called the quad rail and they are supposed to be wound to 23k ohms.i don't want seymour duncan invaders or a dime bucker I want disturbingly high output without using actives
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Meaning they sucked or were just average because the ones I want are called the quad rail and they are supposed to be wound to 23k ohms.i don't want seymour duncan invaders or a dime bucker I want disturbingly high output without using actives

I mean, they were average, like higher output stock pickups.

Why don't you want a Duncan pickups? The price?
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Yes the price is a bit out of reach I'm building a tradional style flying but the jack will be on the side of the lower wing using a fender strat jack.the controls are gonna be j5 tele wiring 2 volumes and a 3 way switch.but also the other reason I don't want duncan pickups is because my friend has a bc rich war beast it has a invader in the neck and a dime bucker in the bridge running thru a Randall warhead and it sounds awful so that's why
I will also be posting pictures of the build
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Yes the price is a bit out of reach I'm building a tradional style flying but the jack will be on the side of the lower wing using a fender strat jack.the controls are gonna be j5 tele wiring 2 volumes and a 3 way switch.but also the other reason I don't want duncan pickups is because my friend has a bc rich war beast it has a invader in the neck and a dime bucker in the bridge running thru a Randall warhead and it sounds awful so that's why
I will also be posting pictures of the build

Well, the dimebucker is notoriously bad, so I don't blame you for not wanting one. But I really don't think the Dragonfire will be a step above it. I can't say for sure having not tried it though.

Sometimes high-output isn't the answer, all you really need is more clarity and a high-gain amp. A decently made ceramic or alnico 8 pickup will do that well, but there are some pretty awesome alnico 5 pickups that can handle metal extremely well too. Also consider your amp as well. If your amp isn't good, then the pickups won't pick up the slack.

If you want cheap pickups, I'd recommend looking at GFS or Guitarheads before Dragonfire. I had a bad experience once with Guitarheads, but I do have a set of their Hex 7s in my 7 string, and they kick ass.
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My amp is a peavey envoy 110 it's from the 90's it has a gain boost and a distortion boost and with peavy sc-2 I can get an iommi or zakk tone also I know I said that the seymour Duncan's were out of my price range but what have you about the blackout metal pickups
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I just tested the stock pickup off the guitar I'm using for parts and it tested around 14.34 k ohms
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I mean seymour duncan makes what is called the blackout metal which has like a full preamp or somthing.but wow if that happened to me I be madder than a hornet
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I mean seymour duncan makes what is called the blackout metal which has like a full preamp or somthing

Yeah, Blackouts are awesome but expensive. Look for some on eBay, you might find a good deal on a used set. My blackouts(the ones in the guitar in my sig) were new, but damaged. I got them for under $90 with all the components and even the instructions, but I had to fix the mounting bracket on one of them. It broke off(that's why they were cheap), and it's plastic so I epoxied it back together. Worked like a charm!
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Sweet! Are they better than emg 81/85 pickups cause i heard Emg's are overhyped
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Sweet! Are they better than emg 81/85 pickups cause i heard Emg's are overhyped

I had the EMG 81/85 before the Blackouts were released. At the time I didn't like the EMGs much, and I can tell you that the Blackouts are superior, imo. But I hear that EMG has since changed the formula and they are supposedly better than they were, so I can't offer an opinion of them.
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I'm building the guitar out of cherry plywood and I'm then gonna paint it ivory ,any advice?
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I'm building the guitar out of cherry plywood and I'm then gonna paint it ivory ,any advice?

Cherry plywood? Why plywood? I know regular lumber is expensive, but building a guitar is a decent to significant amount of effort, you might wish you'd spent a little more on the wood when you get done.

As for painting, look at reranch if you want some good guitar paint in a can. If you have access to spray equipment(and experience with it), then you might consider something else, like adding a pigment to clear lacquer.
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I'm building the guitar out of cherry plywood and I'm then gonna paint it ivory ,any advice?


Go to GB&C and read a few stickies, including the "Which pickup?" thread. And the amp has a lot more to do with sound than the pickups.
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Cherry plywood? Why plywood? I know regular lumber is expensive, but building a guitar is a decent to significant amount of effort, you might wish you'd spent a little more on the wood when you get done.

As for painting, look at reranch if you want some good guitar paint in a can. If you have access to spray equipment(and experience with it), then you might consider something else, like adding a pigment to clear lacquer.


The reason for plywood is because it was free i know cherry is very much like maple
And I figure its going to be painted the color of randy rhoades' 70's les paul custom.
My uncle is the guy who built the Bigfoot guitar and that one has the whole body made from cherry plywood. Just type Bigfoot guitar on google images and there is picture of him holding it.
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What do you not plywood he told me it was he even showed it too me in the process before he painted it where did you read that it's not plywood?
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That's not the guitar his like realistic I guess I would say his is type in on google search georgemarlinguitars.com and that is his website.
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That's not the guitar his like realistic I guess I would say his is type in on google search georgemarlinguitars.com and that is his website.

Is English your second language?
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Lol No English is my first language.its just typing on an iPad is sorta hard for me.
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Lol No English is my first language.its just typing on an iPad is sorta hard for me.

Fair enough....
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Also the guitar that I used for parts had a stoptail bridge like the squire bullet strat but I
Was thinking of switching to a tune o matic what does everyone think about them.
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Also do you mean sculpting as a negative thing because I notice it is in quotation marks
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I think he used 2 pieces 3/4 cherry plywood.i have one more question how would plywood negate the tone it's not like that of the woods tone shows.
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Woods do actually impact the sounds of guitars. By using plywood, there's so much glue and the wood is usually not good quality, so it negates the tone you'd get from wood and generally makes it have nearly no sustain.
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There's paper thin amounts of glue,and I can see where solid wood would make a better guitar,but its my first build so if turns out to be bad at least I did not waste any money on the wood,right?you see I don't have the money to buy a body blank,even if I did have that much money this is my first build. Sorry for the rant, but I'm basing my thought on the same principal of the ampeg Dan Armstrong where all the sound comes is supposed to come from electronics,right?its called an ELECTRIC guitar,right? Keyword here being electric.so that's where I am coming from on my opinion.
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when I went to the lumber yard the piece I wanted 1 1/2" thick bubinga ,
I believe that is how you spell it,because its very similar to mahogany but it was like $250 for it so I was never mind with that.but I had some cherry plywood in 3/4 thickness that I knew I could layer and make a body blank out of. Did you that squires are plywood maple I think. But I just got done with my template I'm just keeping 2 volumes a 3 way switch and a killswitch.
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when I went to the lumber yard the piece I wanted 1 1/2" thick bubinga ,
I believe that is how you spell it,because its very similar to mahogany but it was like $250 for it so I was never mind with that.but I had some cherry plywood in 3/4 thickness that I knew I could layer and make a body blank out of. Did you that squires are plywood maple I think. But I just got done with my template I'm just keeping 2 volumes a 3 way switch and a killswitch.

So you wanted an exotic African wood, but it was too expensive for you, so you went with plywood instead? Was there no compromise? Surely you could have gotten a piece domestic wood for much less than bubinga.

And I don't know if some Squiers are plywood, but I do know that most of them are solid woods. I'm guessing that if Fender does use plywood for their some of the Squiers, then it's probably the cheapest Squiers they offer. That should tell you something about how desirable plywood is right there.