#1
Hi everyone, hope you could help me.

I have a band and hopefully we will do gigs soon, so I need new amp. Altought I have some questions for you, becouse this will be my first gig ever so I don't know how much power do I need , for let's say small rock club ?

And also what amp would you suggest me ? What do you think about marshall ma50h ? Is he worth checking out ( becouse I have 1 hour drive to music shop ) ?

My budget is 1500-1700$, I am looking for head+box tube amp. So consider that it will be amp for gigs, not house playing, and suggest me what to buy.

Thanks in advance to everyone who answers.
#2
Marshall Ma amps are horrible I highly sugest you look at something else.

Where are you located?
What kind of music do you play?
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#3
Location: europe- croatia

We play mostly music from local pop bands , so It won't mean too much for you, but some of popular songs that we cover are : dance with somebody ( mando diao), simply the best ( tina turner ), it's my life (bon jovi ), have you ever seen the rain (CCR ).

Music that I personally lisent are bands like Sabbath, Deep purple, Led zeppelin, Iron maiden , Whitensnake, ZZ top ... idk, basicly everything from rock and old school metal.
#4
Jet city JCA50 or JCA100. Depends on how much headroom you want
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#6
Okay then, how about a vox night train 50?
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#7
Look for a used Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50/100
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#8
How bout WHARFEDALE MI TCT35C, i can get him new for 500$, and just for some money sense, used marshall jmc200 is around 700-800$ here.
#9
Quote by afwef
How bout WHARFEDALE MI TCT35C, i can get him new for 500$, and just for some money sense, used marshall jmc200 is around 700-800$ here.

Probably not a good amp, but I have hardly ever heard anything about them good or bad

Where is here? we can help you better if you answer the what amp sticky on the top of this forum.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#11
Messa is too expensive here, it's one hell of a robbery.

Peavey is not so common, atleast not tube peavey, but used can be found here and then.

May I just ask you how much power do I need to gig, I have read that tube amps from 35-40w could do the job.

I also have one H&K statesman 40 w, used, for 600$. It looks like ok price, you do need to have in mind that thing here are much more expensive becouse of tax, shipping, etc.
Last edited by afwef at Jan 21, 2013,
#12
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^ He said Croatia.

How common are Peaveys there? JSX are so cheap now (here) ... $500-600 in excellent condition.

Mesa Dual Rec Tremoverb for 900-1000.


Why you pokin me and then post amps you should know are very expensive in Europe, especially mesa
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2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#14
Quote by afwef
Messa is too expensive here, it's one hell of a robbery.

Peavey is not so common, atleast not tube peavey, but used can be found here and then.

May I just ask you how much power do I need to gig, I have read that tube amps from 35-40w could do the job.

I also have one H&K statesman 40 w, used, for 600$. It looks like ok price, you do need to have in mind that thing here are much more expensive becouse of tax, shipping, etc.


Wattage isn't rated in volume, it's rated in clean headroom. A Vox AC30 is only 30 watts, yet is louder than most amps of a higher wattage.

Do you perhaps have a website to a Croatian music store? Maybe we could look at what IS available rather than wildly suggesting
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#15
Yeah I do, but I am not sure will you be able to understand anything.


first one, I linked it on amps

http://webshop.musicshop.hr/pojaala-c-43.html?osCsid=f0f443289a88dcfd37a614190b278279

this one has only marshall amps

http://www.rainbow-music.hr/category/marshall/

third one, some orange and marshall ( there isn't too much here to choose on this one )

http://www.euro-unit.hr/index.php/hr/web-shop?page=shop.browse&category_id=37

this is the site where people sell used things, I also linked it to amps:

http://www.njuskalo.hr/pojacala-gitare

But on this one I can't try tell all becouse they could be on other side of country.

1$=5,68HRK

For now I have around 5000 kn, but I'm not in a hurry and I could make some more money in month or two ( 7000-8000 =1200-1400$)

btw thanks for your effort
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#16
Quote by Volcz
Wattage isn't rated in volume, it's rated in clean headroom. A Vox AC30 is only 30 watts, yet is louder than most amps of a higher wattage.

This man is following my train of thought. Look for a Vox, either a Night Train 50 (like I suggested) or the AC30 (like Volcz suggested).
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#17
To be honest I never saw night train here, AC30 can be found, but will it be enoguh to do gig ( only 30w ) ?
#18
As I said, watts is rated in CLEAN HEADROOM not VOLUME.

Trust me, it'll be plenty loud to gig with. If you put an AC30 on full volume, you'd break windows, drown out every single other noise in the room, break your ears, and get the cops turn up cause they heard it from the police station

I'm just not sure how the AC30 would do with old school metal. What's your guitar?
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I hear they use false bypass switches.

It's, like, so ironic.
#19
How about a Traynor YCV50B? I know it's a combo, but you don't need a head & cab to play gigs. Could look at their tube heads, but I know the YVC50B is purposely geared towards rock type dirt. Should be able to do Maiden with a clean boost!
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#20
^ yeah thomann sells it for a pretty good price, too

that being said, with $1700 you should have enough for a pretty decent head and cab setup too (especially considering thomann sells the harley benton g212vintage 2x12 cab, with two vintage 30 speakers, for like £150).
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#21
Quote by Volcz
As I said, watts is rated in CLEAN HEADROOM not VOLUME.

Trust me, it'll be plenty loud to gig with. If you put an AC30 on full volume, you'd break windows, drown out every single other noise in the room, break your ears, and get the cops turn up cause they heard it from the police station

I'm just not sure how the AC30 would do with old school metal. What's your guitar?


Fender standard stratocaster. We rent studio for cheap price and there is marshall avt50, and it sounds ok for what I need, so I guess vox will sound even better.


And about clean headroom. can you tell me more about it ? How do I know how much clean headroom does amp have ( is this a dumb question ? ) ?

Thomman looks like good option but when you add shipping price, tax and since we are not in EU yet they will include tariff, it is not so good for something I can't even try.

Btw I would like to hear your opinion about H&K statesman quad 40w, how much headroom does he have ? Is he worth buying, I have one near me so I could try it out before buying.
#22
ah right i forgot you're not in the EU yet, sorry about that

clean headroom is basically how long the amp stays clean as you turn the volume knob up. Most tube amps' power tubes will start to distort after you turn them up a certain amount. obviously once you hit this volume limit if you want to play clean at a higher volume than that you're (more or less) out of luck.

i don't think i'd want an ac30 for hard rock. I have a genz benz black pearl (which is sorta their take on a more modern ac30) and even it struggles when you get into hard rock territory.

i don't gig, so treat this with a pinch of salt (i'm just repeating what i've read elsewhere), but normally 30 watts is considered plenty of headroom, or 50 to be sure (of course, with 100 you're really sure, and you might prefer the tone or features of a 100 watt amp).

you can affect the overall volume a bit with more efficient speakers, too. which is worth bearing in mind.
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?