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#122
Quote by Kytokinesis
So the guy wanted recs


O RLY!?!?!?

OKAY

Trivium - Ascendancy
Ling Tosite Sigure - #4
Finger Eleven - The Greyest Of Blue Skies
Bach - The Art Of Counterpoint
Vehemence - God Was Created
The Big Lebowski
My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic
Kat Dennings
Looper
Prog-Jr.(Steve's Penis)

There. I rec'd shit, happy!?
#124
Quote by Morphogenesis26
Finger Eleven - The Greyest Of Blue Skies
Dude, I used to listen to that shit all the time when I was like 13, because I heard one of the songs in the soundtrack for the DBZ movie Cooler's Revenge

I still can't really profess to dislike it, such nostalgia.
#125
Quote by Steve08
Dude, I used to listen to that shit all the time when I was like 13, because I heard one of the songs in the soundtrack for the DBZ movie Cooler's Revenge

I still can't really profess to dislike it, such nostalgia.


Stay And Drown is the track in that movie. I bought a used copy of the album a couple months back 'cause I still like a lot of mainstream rock bands.

The biggest album for me out of that whole group of "post-grunge" bands would be One -X, though, which was also the first album I ever owned.

I feel very untr00 right now.
#126
Yessss, that song rules... haha Three Days Grace, I used to listen to them a lot when I was in, like, 5th or 6th grade... I guess it's meant to appeal to a certain emotional state in people that I just never feel myself. Still kinda rockin', though.
#127
Quote by Morphogenesis26
Bach - The Art Of Counterpoint


It's the art of fugue.
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#128
Quote by Steve08
the incorporation of Classical ideals in Metal

Just out of sheer curiosity(and not to start another debate/orgy) could you rec me the bands that are closest to the classically influenced metal with motifs that you mentioned you hoped to one day propagate? And do you happen to have any projects of your own that represent these ideas?
#129
Quote by Nietsche
It's the art of fugue.


Sorry, I typed all that quickly and just picked things that popped in my head.
#130
Quote by Kytokinesis
Just out of sheer curiosity(and not to start another debate/orgy) could you rec me the bands that are closest to the classically influenced metal with motifs that you mentioned you hoped to one day propagate?
Yes,

Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick (one of my favorite albums in music), Altars of Madness
Gorguts - Obscura
Burzum - Hvis lyset tar oss (another personal favorite)
Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Artillery - By Inheritance
Demilich - Nespithe
Autopsy - Severed Survival, Mental Funeral
At the Gates - The Red in the Sky is Ours
Slayer - Hell Awaits, Reign in Blood
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Immortal - Pure Holocaust
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Therion - Beyond Sanctorum
Massacra - Final Holocaust
Suffocation - Pierced from Within
Incantation - Onward to Golgotha
Rigor Mortis - s/t
Ildjarn - Hardangervidda, Ildjarn-Nidhogg
Infester - To the Depths... in Degradation
Helstar - Nosferatu
King Diamond - Abigail
Watchtower - Control and Resistance
etc.

(my preferred subgenres clearly being death and black metal >_> lol)
Quote by Kytokinesis
And do you happen to have any projects of your own that represent these ideas?
Working on it with a friend of mine who is quite good at guitar and can do vocals appropriately, I'm in the process of planning out/composing a technical death metal, like, demo maybe where I plan on having the intro song present a subdued, wistful consonant D minor theme, narrate that throughout that piece and then gradually have that theme shift into accidentals to suggest a slippage into mental decay, with dissonant note choice and "hard" aesthetic presented afterwards; however, I want to incorporate the original "sanity" theme in a few ways throughout, but with less emphasis each and each time until it is utterly absent by the end of the work and is instead replaced with the harshness of aesthetic presumed of insanity/dementia/sorrow though my vision is to have it more represent the process of decay rather than wallowing in madness itself, which would be a full length. Also, I want to explore leading from blistering, contemporary tech-death sections to more doomy, ambient material, so maybe like Suffocation meets Autopsy, or something. For the record, I play the drum set, but I am capable of writing a variety of parts for most rock band instrumentation; have not delved into stuff like string quartets or basic sonata forms, but I'd like to try soon.
Last edited by Steve08 at Jan 24, 2013,
#132
I'll check everyone's recs out tomorrow or over the weekend sometime. And Steve your project sounds really interesting. You'll have to keep me posted.
#133
Quote by Steve08
Working on it with a friend of mine who is quite good at guitar and can do vocals appropriately, I'm in the process of planning out/composing a technical death metal, like, demo maybe where I plan on having the intro song present a subdued, wistful consonant D minor theme, narrate that throughout that piece and then gradually have that theme shift into accidentals to suggest a slippage into mental decay, with dissonant note choice and "hard" aesthetic presented afterwards; however, I want to incorporate the original "sanity" theme in a few ways throughout, but with less emphasis each and each time until it is utterly absent by the end of the work and is instead replaced with the harshness of aesthetic presumed of insanity/dementia/sorrow though my vision is to have it more represent the process of decay rather than wallowing in madness itself, which would be a full length. Also, I want to explore leading from blistering, contemporary tech-death sections to more doomy, ambient material, so maybe like Suffocation meets Autopsy, or something. For the record, I play the drum set, but I am capable of writing a variety of parts for most rock band instrumentation; have not delved into stuff like string quartets or basic sonata forms, but I'd like to try soon.

Damn, that sounds pretty cool. So, kind of Death and Doom feels overall, with a bit of Black Metal? Definitely be interested in that.
#134
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Damn, that sounds pretty cool. So, kind of Death and Doom feels overall, with a bit of Black Metal? Definitely be interested in that.
Well, I want to experiment with writing Black Metal in the same project after a point. My goal is to, at some point, release a black/death (black metal atmosphere + death metal riff attack) metal EP/LP, and then for a subsequent release, expand upon the blackened aspect present in the previous release, to smoothly segue into an entirely new subgenre of Metal without having it be forced or random (e.g. The Faceless).

However, picture, if you will, the slower, doomy parts of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFpcRIYEZdU

With the more upbeat, faster sections being more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJnNscwrIkc

Though I don't plan on rapidly juxtaposing such extremes of rhythmic approach, but rather have them be reached in a smoothly flowing narrative, carrying over through the course of one song to another, rather than having each song be a self-contained entity.
Last edited by Steve08 at Jan 25, 2013,
#136
Autopsy fTW!
"I would happily pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today"

-Poldo (the guy with both hands in his pockets!)
#137
I think one of the future trends in Metal is to do more collaborations that include classical instruments. There are also a lot of metal operas, like Avantasia that have come out. So I basically think that metal will incorporate more classical instruments like cellos and violins.

ron666
#138
Quote by Steve08
Working on it with a friend of mine who is quite good at guitar and can do vocals appropriately, I'm in the process of planning out/composing a technical death metal, like, demo maybe where I plan on having the intro song present a subdued, wistful consonant D minor theme, narrate that throughout that piece and then gradually have that theme shift into accidentals to suggest a slippage into mental decay, with dissonant note choice and "hard" aesthetic presented afterwards; however, I want to incorporate the original "sanity" theme in a few ways throughout, but with less emphasis each and each time until it is utterly absent by the end of the work and is instead replaced with the harshness of aesthetic presumed of insanity/dementia/sorrow though my vision is to have it more represent the process of decay rather than wallowing in madness itself, which would be a full length. Also, I want to explore leading from blistering, contemporary tech-death sections to more doomy, ambient material, so maybe like Suffocation meets Autopsy, or something. For the record, I play the drum set, but I am capable of writing a variety of parts for most rock band instrumentation; have not delved into stuff like string quartets or basic sonata forms, but I'd like to try soon.

This sounds all very awesome.

Also just for the record it sounds like a more death/doomy version of Infestus - Ex | Ist, or Kathaaria - The Complex Void of Negativity, both of which I feel like you may enjoy. May. Or maybe not. Just throwing that out there.
Quote by MoogleRancha
It's like Fenriz and J. Read

"I'm so happy to love metal and stuff"

"I AM metal"
#139
Beherit are paving a path for the future of Metal. Perhaps it isn't the only way, but it's a solid course.

Looking to the past of Western Art Music, as was suggested, is certainly a good idea. However, there is a catch. The defining aspect of Metal is primarily one of spirit. That spirit predominates in youth and has a tendency to burn out. It may be difficult to maintain that spirit with a clinical approach. Some of the greatest Metal is, in many respects, dumb (see Deicide). I suspect if this approach is taken, it will yield music completely outside what is traditionally considered Metal. I guess the question will be whether or not that's a good thing.
#140
Quote by NotFromANUS
Beherit are paving a path for the future of Metal. Perhaps it isn't the only way, but it's a solid course.

Ok, would you enlighten me as to what that way is?
#142
Well that would be incorrect since the future of metal will obviously be derived from goat semen.
#143
If it's the future shouldn't it be like... cyborg-goat semen?
All I want is for everyone to go to hell...
...It's the last place I was seen before I lost myself



Quote by DisarmGoliath
You can be the deputy llamma of the recordings forum!
#144
If you're suggesting that in the future the tendencies of human beings eventually bring an end to all living animals and we have to resort to making our own goats and our own goat semen, then that, my good sir, is one scary thought.
#145
I was thinking more part Goat part Robot
All I want is for everyone to go to hell...
...It's the last place I was seen before I lost myself



Quote by DisarmGoliath
You can be the deputy llamma of the recordings forum!
#146
Quote by ChemicalFire
I was thinking more part Goat part Robot


So you are talking about Robo-goat. Hopefully its not the same as Robot Chicken, although I admit it can be pretty funny sometimes.

ron666
#148
I think that Heavy Metal is true Metal! Death "Metal", Black "Metal" and Glam "Metal" and many other genres have nothing to do with true Metal! I believe that Metal in the future will use new technology and ideas, but it will be always a demanding style of music, in terms of talent!
#149
Quote by Lead_Guitar89
I think that Heavy Metal is true Metal! Death "Metal", Black "Metal" and Glam "Metal" and many other genres have nothing to do with true Metal! I believe that Metal in the future will use new technology and ideas, but it will be always a demanding style of music, in terms of talent!



fck you
#150
Quote by Lead_Guitar89
I think that Heavy Metal is true Metal! Death "Metal", Black "Metal" and Glam "Metal" and many other genres have nothing to do with true Metal! I believe that Metal in the future will use new technology and ideas, but it will be always a demanding style of music, in terms of talent!
"Glam metal" is crystal clear, feelgood 80s rock that's merely using distortion to seem "hard", not related to Metal at all, yeah, but Death Metal emerged more or less as a distillation of Thrash Metal and Heavy Metal, and Black Metal emerged toward the end of the 80s, almost in contradiction to Death Metal, so yeah... those two subgenres have a lot to do with true Metal, and... some of the best Metal albums were released within those subgenres.
#151
Quote by me+yourmom=69
fck you


I just said my opinion. Just say yours and don't use bad language.... I respect everyone's opinion, just tell me what you think!
#153
Quote by AnnihiSlateR
Ok, care to explain why you feel they have nothing to do with true metal?

I thing that Metal started by people that they wanted to create a style of music similar to rock and blues, but with a different lyrical content. Glam Metal is commercial music about sex, Death and Black Metal are insulting people's beliefs.
According to former Gorgoroth vocalist Gaahl, "Black Metal was never meant to reach an audience.... [We] had a common enemy which was, of course, Christianity, socialism and everything that democracy stands for."
True Heavy Metal is a genre that makes people to think about different subjects, to give power to everyone who loves it.
#154
I'm pretty sure glam metal insults people's beliefs

and death metal is totally about sex
#156
Call me crazy, but I tend to think that musical genres are separated by their sound, not the ideology of the artist.

Black metal sounds like metal, so it's metal. Death metal sounds like metal, so it's metal. Thrash metal sounds like metal, so it's metal. Heavy metal sounds like metal, so it's metal.
#157
I think that it would be usefull if I tell you what bands I like: Iron Maiden, Manowar, Accept, Helloween, Deep Durple, Uriah Heep, Black Sabbath, Savatage, Megadeth, Running Wild, Motorhead, that kind of Metal I like!!!
#158
So basically, you like rock music that's commonly mislabeled as metal and surface level metal bands that you can find in any record store?
#159
So Helloween, Running Wild, Manowar, and Black Sabbath are just rock bands mislabeled as metal? Swear to god this just got 100x worse
#160
Quote by Lead_Guitar89
I thing that Metal started by people that they wanted to create a style of music similar to rock and blues, but with a different lyrical content. Glam Metal is commercial music about sex, Death and Black Metal are insulting people's beliefs.
According to former Gorgoroth vocalist Gaahl, "Black Metal was never meant to reach an audience.... [We] had a common enemy which was, of course, Christianity, socialism and everything that democracy stands for."
True Heavy Metal is a genre that makes people to think about different subjects, to give power to everyone who loves it.


"Death and Black Metal are insulting people's beliefs."

Your world was made for you by someone above
But you choose evil ways instead of love
You made me master of the world where you exist
The soul I took from you was not even missed

That's from 'Lord Of This World' by Black Sabbath. Sounds like it's saying God is real and that anyone that does not do what he say's is evil. My Atheism has been insulted, how dare Black Sabbath! They aren't real Metal because they insulted my beliefs!


You see how ******ed that sounds? Especially when the majority of Metal music contains lyrics that go against the status quo of society, usually in a manner that would be considered "insulting".

Would you prefer passive lyrics that are all, "Oh, I think this, but I could totally be wrong and you could be right, "? Does that sound like something that will make people legitimately think differently about a subject?

Hell, this is completely ignoring all the lyrics from Death and Black Metal that are actually "nice". Go listen to Arcane Sun, Cynic, Lykathea Aflame, Kawir or something.