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#41
Quote by dementiacaptain
Hey man, I'm sorry I actually sold it last week. I got a killer offer on it I had to take



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That's ok do what ya gotta do!
#42
*Update*

To anyone who might be in the same boat as me and looking for an amp... Here is my update:

I actually chose an amp that no one in this thread even listed... The Carvin V3M. I took a step back and asked myself "What am I going to use this amp for?" and realized I hardly needed a 100+ watt amp head for mostly bedroom practice/ nonchalant jamming with buddies. I've had the Carvin 3 days and here are my reactions so far.... Clean channel is quite good... seriously. You can dial anything from country twang to slightly broken up rock with the gain and volume pushed on the 7 watt mode. 22 and 50 watt modes sound even BETTER imo. I was seriously impressed with the clean channel's versatility.. and even with all the different shaping options like the EQX switch, it was really difficult to find a bad tone.

NOW FOR THE GAIN CHANNEL(S): After hours and hours of tweaking, playing, tweaking, playing, over and over again,I found that something is missing here....This amp has plenty of gain, don't get me wrong.. It probably has more gain than you'll ever need. However, it's a different type of gain than what I'm looking for. To my ears, there's not really a modern metal tone available on the Carvin that I enjoyed. When I choked my pick, and plucked some meaty palm muted powerchords... some type of "OOMPH" was missing. I was left unsatisfied. I have 6 more days to twiddle some knobs and I really do hope to find a good tone because this is one super versatile, well-built amp at a great price... But if I don't find it, I'm afraid my silver and black V3 will have to be shipped back to the Carvin factory...

Now I took a gamble on Carvin.. it was impossible to play the V3 without ordering it first. I feel like I'm back at square one. The insane used prices of Mesa Boogie's have that path looking grim... so now I'm looking at Egnater's Vengeance and EVH 5150 III (50w). Any thoughts?
#43
I'd like to point out that I really think highly of the Carvin V3! If you're a player who wants a versatile "lunchbox" amp and doesn't care if his/her amp can do bone crunching modern gain, then this is really the amp for you. Hell, maybe you'll even like the gain. I believe my Orange 212 close back cab doesn't mesh well with the V3m... It's a bit too dark sounding and I'm a guy who loves a dark sound. Perhaps the V3 would sound better with a different cab/speaker combo. Anyways if anyone has any questions about the V3M i'd be happy to tell share how I feel about it. I have it for a couple of days so let me know! Otherwise keep shooting high gain amp options at me! Thanks
#46
I have heard a few people say something is missing on the V3. Thats a bummer though. Just to throw it out there, I love my JCM2000 DSL100. Solid amps. Not the new DSL100H I dont like it anywhere near as much.
#47
Why should we keep giving you advice if you're not going to listen?
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#48
Quote by zucky22389
....so now I'm looking at Egnater's Vengeance and EVH 5150 III (50w). Any thoughts?


EVH was suggested on pg 1. As were some Mesas. My Dual Rec Tremoverb cost about the same price used from a local GC as the EVH new. And I also have a 5150 III 50W on order. Hopefully shipping this week. EVH was 850 (no tax, free shipping) after asking nicely for a discount. Maybe if you're nicer they (MF in my case) will do 800.
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Last edited by Deadpool_25 at Feb 26, 2013,
#49
I'm sorry my man, but you have been suggested everything under the sun. You are going to have to mull it over on your own. I had a full size V3, and I never was completely satisfied with it either, so I know the feeling you are getting.
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#50
Alright- Since it's been a couple weeks since this thread was active I had forgotten all the awesome suggestions you guys gave me. Sorry I shouldn't have asked for any more help. I got this!

@cdr_salamander- The reason I bought a V3m is this: Everyone here was trying to talk me into a Dual Rec. Instead of using a 100W head for bedroom practice, I started seriously looking into the Mini Rec. I read an amazing in-depth review of a Mini Rec vs. the V3m. The V3m could do pretty much anything the mini rec could do (with better cleans, imo). I ordered V3m. Played the shit out of it and was unsatisfied. So it's not like I wasn't listening to you guys- I listened and then went a little bit further...

The real purpose of my post was to write a little about the V3m in case any readers out there were looking for an amp and wanted to know a bit about it.
#51
I found the V3M to be very nasaly. I wasnt satisfied either. Another reason i went to Stiff Amps. Its night and day difference than a mesa clean or carvin for sure. It just has more life.

Hope you find tone happiness!!!!
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#52
Quote by zucky22389
Alright- Since it's been a couple weeks since this thread was active I had forgotten all the awesome suggestions you guys gave me. Sorry I shouldn't have asked for any more help. I got this!

@cdr_salamander- The reason I bought a V3m is this: Everyone here was trying to talk me into a Dual Rec. Instead of using a 100W head for bedroom practice, I started seriously looking into the Mini Rec. I read an amazing in-depth review of a Mini Rec vs. the V3m. The V3m could do pretty much anything the mini rec could do (with better cleans, imo). I ordered V3m. Played the shit out of it and was unsatisfied. So it's not like I wasn't listening to you guys- I listened and then went a little bit further...

The real purpose of my post was to write a little about the V3m in case any readers out there were looking for an amp and wanted to know a bit about it.



Cool, man. Nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day it's YOU spending your money so you gotta do what you think is best.

Mini-Rec is cool, but at that price point I'd take the EVH mini instead (I actually have one on order), though there's a difference between the two tones and that, of course, must be factored into any equation.


Quote by bburritt1
I found the V3M to be very nasaly. I wasnt satisfied either. Another reason i went to Stiff Amps.


Those do sound pretty good in YT demos.
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Last edited by Deadpool_25 at Feb 26, 2013,
#53
Uh oh... MF/GC is having a 15% off sale and zzounds does price matching with payment options... I knew Zzounds would get me into trouble someday.
#54
Quote by zucky22389
Uh oh... MF/GC is having a 15% off sale and zzounds does price matching with payment options... I knew Zzounds would get me into trouble someday.


Well buy something and let us know!
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#57
Quote by zucky22389
Please, go on!


with what? you have heard pretty much EVERY amp in your range, and

crnlsanders

Why should we keep giving you advice if you're not going to listen?


do one of three. starting with the easy.
1. go trough this thread again
2. go play some amps and check out youtube demos if they don't have anything similar
3. i...buy something
ii.. don't waste our time recycling through this whole thread over and over.

in this thread there is everything. you may not like what you get. if you get it at a good price you will probably not lose more than 10 percent. (used)
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alright "king of the guitar forum"


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nope i am "GOD of the guitar forum" i think that fits me better.


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youre just being a jerk man.



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#58
Whoa whoa whoa... I've done all of those things... Keep in mind that I am quite new to the tube scene and I'm interested in everybody's opinion. After over a month of hard research there are a few amps that I'm interested in that no one had even mentioned, like the Orange Rockerverb 50, H&K 18, and Stiff amps. I don't feel the need to defend myself for asking for opinions, because i already touched on that in a previous comment. This thread has been HUGELY influential and was the sole reason I was seriously interested in a Mesa Boogie Dual Rec and ended up with my V3M.

That being said, on March 15th, my brand new EVH 5150 iii head in ivory white will be shipped to my house. I ordered it this evening. For 800 bucks. **** yeah.
#59
Quote by zucky22389

That being said, on March 15th, my brand new EVH 5150 iii head in ivory white will be shipped to my house. I ordered it this evening. For 800 bucks. **** yeah.



Nice! Saved $50 more than I did! Maybe I should call MF back and get them to knock another $50 off!
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#60
Nice man. Many tones will be had. Make sure you do a NAD!
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#61
Nice! Saved $50 more than I did! Maybe I should call MF back and get them to knock another $50 off!

so OP i am glad you found something. good luck.


this was for the OP finding what he wants. i got confused, than deadpool was in there.


zukky- i know i was an asshole about it, sometimes i am. but, it is just frustrating to see every amp listed and not a ton of apparent research by you. i realize you can't play any amp you want to buy, but sometimes you have to jump.

good luck and
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alright "king of the guitar forum"


Quote by trashedlostfdup
nope i am "GOD of the guitar forum" i think that fits me better.


Quote by andersondb7
youre just being a jerk man.



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Last edited by trashedlostfdup at Mar 1, 2013,
#62
Ack! Quoted wrong person I think, trashed. You weren't an asshole to me.

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#63
Quote by Deadpool_25
Ack! Quoted wrong person I think, trashed. You weren't an asshole to me.




yea something got messed up there.

i could never hate a man with such great taste. Ibanes pristeges and LP's FTW
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Quote by andersondb7
alright "king of the guitar forum"


Quote by trashedlostfdup
nope i am "GOD of the guitar forum" i think that fits me better.


Quote by andersondb7
youre just being a jerk man.



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#64
Quote by trashedlostfdup

i could never hate a man with such great taste. Ibanes pristeges and LP's FTW


Thanks man! I sometimes think I have too many guitars but then I go grab one I haven't played in a while and I remember why I bought it.
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- Gibson LP Studio Premium Plus
- Ibanez S570DXQM
- Ibanez RG7421
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- Mesa Boogie TC-50
- Mesa Boogie Mark Five:25
- Vypyr 60
- Fractal FX8
- Strymon Big Three

#65
Zucky, I called MF and took care of that price. While on the phone, I couldn't help myself. I ordered another matching 1x12 so now it'll be a mini full stack lol. Right now they're estimating March 5th. Can't wait!!!
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-Strandberg OS6
- Strandberg CL7
- Gibson LP Studio Premium Plus
- Ibanez S570DXQM
- Ibanez RG7421
- Fender John Mayer Strat
- Warmoth Partscaster

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- Mesa Boogie TC-50
- Mesa Boogie Mark Five:25
- Vypyr 60
- Fractal FX8
- Strymon Big Three

#66
@trashed- Naw you weren't an asshole. I just knew I did a ton of research and I knew not "everything under the sun" was mentioned. (I saw an Orange Rockerverb 50 go on eBay for about 800 today!!)

@Deadpool- I'm happy MF hooked you up! I did have to make a few phone calls and use a little persuasion to get the price... but it was worth it. =D I'm jealous of your matching mini stack as I've heard the speakers preloaded in the matching cabs sound better than, say, the V30's in my orange 212. Can't wait to find out! Let me know how it sounds; I'd imagine it will be HUGE! They're estimating March 15th for me...
#67
I was pleasantly surprised to find an e-mail in my inbox stating the amp had came in earlier than expected!! It shipped today and should arrive next week! Haven't been able to plug my electric in for a couple weeks now and it's driving me nuts... Been plucking the acoustic to pass the time!

@Deadpool- Hows your order coming along?
#68
Quote by zucky22389
I was pleasantly surprised to find an e-mail in my inbox stating the amp had came in earlier than expected!! It shipped today and should arrive next week! Haven't been able to plug my electric in for a couple weeks now and it's driving me nuts... Been plucking the acoustic to pass the time!

@Deadpool- Hows your order coming along?



What the...!! You lucky....!!! Lol, I called today and they told me the expect the amps to come in on the 15th and ship on the 16th.

Where did you order from?
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- Mesa Boogie TC-50
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- Vypyr 60
- Fractal FX8
- Strymon Big Three

#69
In further developments: The second 1x12 cab arrived today but it's clearly a return or something. It didn't arrive in the factory box and there is a little card saying the original box "was not in suitable condition to effectively protect this item from the rigors of transit. We have reboxed this item to ensure that it arrives undamaged."

The box it came in was EXACTLY the right size for the cab--no room for styrofoam or any extra padding. In comparison, the first cab was in the unopened factory box with plenty of styrofoam to protect it. The box does look undamaged, but there's a small dent/scuff on the back edge and a couple little smudge marks (easy to see on the ivory Tolex). I set it on the counter and started to tip it back to look at the bottom and something is clearly loose in there. I checked the first cab I got and it doesn't have any issues.

Slightly annoying but a quick call to MF and they sent me a return label so I can just drop it off and get another one. Ah, the joys of online shopping. We save some money, but sometimes have to deal with other stuff. No problem though...since the head hasn't shipped yet anyway.

Lol
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- Warmoth Partscaster

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- Mesa Boogie TC-50
- Mesa Boogie Mark Five:25
- Vypyr 60
- Fractal FX8
- Strymon Big Three

#71
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
I'm hella confused now


Did the TS get a V3M?



Late to the party much?!

J/k!

Recap: He listened to all the advice to get a dual rec, figured that was too much for bedroom practice, looked into the mini-rec, researched that and read that the V3M could do the heavies as well as the mini rec but had better cleans, bought the V3M and didn't like it, returned it, and is now eagerly awaiting delivery of his new 5150 III mini (which was also a highly recommended option along with the dual recs).

....or something along those lines.

Zucky, we'll be expecting a sweet NAD from you!
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-Strandberg OS6
- Strandberg CL7
- Gibson LP Studio Premium Plus
- Ibanez S570DXQM
- Ibanez RG7421
- Fender John Mayer Strat
- Warmoth Partscaster

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- Mesa Boogie TC-50
- Mesa Boogie Mark Five:25
- Vypyr 60
- Fractal FX8
- Strymon Big Three

#72
Mesa Recs are always good for the bedroom. Output knob ftw.

Can't go wrong with the 5153 either
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#73
Quote by cdr_salamander
Mesa Recs are always good for the bedroom. Output knob ftw.

Can't go wrong with the 5153 either


Or you could do both....

(c'mon MF...receive and ship my damn 5153!)
Guitars
-Strandberg OS6
- Strandberg CL7
- Gibson LP Studio Premium Plus
- Ibanez S570DXQM
- Ibanez RG7421
- Fender John Mayer Strat
- Warmoth Partscaster

Amps/FX
- Mesa Boogie TC-50
- Mesa Boogie Mark Five:25
- Vypyr 60
- Fractal FX8
- Strymon Big Three

#74
Quote by Deadpool_25
Or you could do both....

)



since this has been such an incredibly derailed thread since page 2.... I feel like this advice shoudl be followed... then he should sell both of them... and have the man himself FORTIN!!! build him an evil pumpkin... sell that and buy a rhodes colossus.. realizing that this is now wayyyyy too much for a bedroom. sell. and buy the vengeance like I said.

I was bored and nothing could get worse here right?
#75
@Deadpool- I ordered from zzounds. Anyways, dafuq!?!? Why the hell would they send the 112 in an unpadded box!? And on top of that, it looks like it's a return!? Over the years i've ordered a bit from MF and had never had these kinds of problems- it doesn't sound like them! Hope you get yourself a new undamaged 112 by the time the head arrives.

Yeah i ordered from zzounds. After I placed the order my bank called me and reported that zzounds was an insecure site... I was worried for a minute but everything is fine. I've called zzounds a couple times and their customer service has been quite helpful. The day I ordered, the web page said "more expected March 15th". I placed the order anyways and a few days later went back to look at the 5153 on their and it said "In Stock. Ready to Ship". I freaked! Then I checked my e-mail and found a shipping notification saying the amp had shipped!

Long story short, I'm sitting here looking at my ivory white 5153 on top of my orange 212 right now. The tolex is a bit of an off-white, kind of vintage, just like I expected. It looks awesome on top of my Orange. When I saw the Fed Ex truck pull in I felt like an 8 year old kid the night before Christmas! Then I saw her get out of the truck and DRAG MY AMP DOWN EACH OF THE TRUCK STAIRS. My heart sank. I ripped open the box, hooked it up and it turns on fine. However I am starving... I'm going to go eat while everything cools down. (It's cold here and the amp was FREEZING). Then i'll play my life away. More incoming...
#76
@311Zoso- Yeah, deadpool summed it up nicely! Tons of dual rec recommendations, combined with many comparisons between dual rec and mini rec led me to purchase.... a Carvin V3m... lol. I wish I could find the review between the V3m and mini rec again... Both sounded sick and are great amps. I figured why spend $400 more on the mini when I could get the more versatile Carvin? So I bought it and was left a little unsatisfied, particularly in the saturated gains... It can do them, no doubt, but it wasn't a tone I was happy with.
#77
You could grab a used 5150/6505 for that money, it will do what you want perfectly, if you get it bias modded (probably a $15 job if it isn't done already) it can properly bring the clean channel alive too.

You can get the 6505+/5150 II but traditionally they were thought of as the worse sounding amp compared to the original and a popular mod for the 5150II was to bring it back to 5150 Mk1 specs on the overdrive channael, the benefit of the 5150II/6505+ is that you get a seperate EQ for both the clean/od channels when the original has a shared EQ.


Reading further in the thread I understand you got a 5150III Mini, cracking amps in their own right, hope you enjoy it!
#78
Thanks, @Bigbazz =). Brand new today, and i'm struggling to find a bad tone in it. This amp is way more use-friendly to my inexperienced self. With the Carvin, I had to really tweak, tweak, and tweak some more to get a tone I liked. This thing is in it's "sweet spot" all the time!!
Last edited by zucky22389 at Mar 8, 2013,
#79
Quote by zucky22389
Thanks, @Bigbazz =). Brand new today, and i'm struggling to find a bad tone in it. This amp is way more use-friendly to my inexperienced self. With the Carvin, I had to really tweak, tweak, and tweak some more to get a tone I liked. This thing is in it's "sweet spot" all the time!!



I had a Framus Dragon parked in my house for a few months (it was my bands singers) and as much as I'd heard good things about them I just couldn't find a tone I was happy with, it was always like I was searching trying to find something more or better..

Then I would plug in my 5150 and it was like BANG! instant, no messing around it sounded great just turning it on, It was then I realised I just didn't like the Framus. Sometimes it just comes down to personal taste, the 5150 III though made by Fender shares a lot of simularities in the sound with the original Peavey 5150, and in some ways the Dragon has a lot of the characteristics of that Carvin, so for me to understand your point of view is easy!

I totally get it!
#80
Fender does such a great job of marketing this amp. You can't even find the word "Fender" on the thing; it's like they don't want their name to be affiliated with EVH or 5150. Known for their cleans, it's easy to see why they don't want "Fender" plastered all over a high gain amp.

After a few hours of twiddling and plucking, this amp sounds great! I only have my ESP with Duncans to play through it atm. I can't wait to play my friends Hellraiser with EMGs, and my strat through it. Like I said before, it's hard to find a bad tone! It's one of those amps where you plug in and all of the sudden you become a machine, playing "cleaner" and faster than you thought was possible for yourself.