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luvs2gro
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All through out history music has reflected then current views and opinions shared among different groups of people. Artist would poor a cocktail of emotions into the music which represented what how they felt towards what was happening nation wide or even globally, and when you listen to it you can feel it to this day.

A lot of people I encounter on a day to day basis seem to be convinced that real music is dead, and when they think of radio they think of a harbor of pathetic anthems that is completely meaningless. Well I have never been into listening to the radio so I can't say so myself, I know for a fact that realness in music still exists

Which artists of today do you think will still be relevant in the next 50 to 60 years?

Do you listen to any modern bands or artists that reflect how you currently feel about the global political/economical situation or how you feel about your country or others politically?

The only examples I could think of are from Hip Hop, I would love to hear what you guys can come up with.

Thievery Corporation With Mr Lif

Thievery Corp has some pretty groovy songs and in this song they are collaborating with rapper Mr. Lif, who has some awesome messages in his songs.

This song is called moment of truth by gangstarr

Now assuming some of you don't respect rappers, know this: there is a difference between "rap music" and "hip hop" rap is the music that is all about pussy money weed. Hip hop is about real life and applies to everybody not just in the hood.

Moment of Truth by Gang Starr was the first true hip hop song I heard.

I know there are other genres that have the same sort of modern messages in them and this thread is for sharing that sort of music, no matter what genre as long as it has the same realness to it.
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#3
Man, are there any bands from now that'll be relevant sixty years from now? Even the 90's aren't very relevant anymore.
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#4
Actually "rap" is just a vocal style and "hip hop" is the genre and related subculture.
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luvs2gro
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#12
Immortal Technique is bringing the heat so hard its almost chilling to listen to, I definitely consider him one of the modern artists putting out real music.
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Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.


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#15
Muse definitely hasn't been doing anything related to politics lately
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#16
Quote by PoisonousNipple
Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.



You can still like the music despite not being part of the "movement". Why should rap/hip hop be considered a political movement so much more than any other genre and how do you know these people declare they are part of that "movement"? What happened to liking music because you like it and find it close to your taste and appreciation?

Someone else's culture? Is music always about the culture and the way of life? That's a very soddy way of seeing it then.

Your posts are always retarded. Stop posting.
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Now assuming some of you don't respect rappers, know this: there is a difference between "rap music" and "hip hop" rap is the music that is all about pussy money weed. Hip hop is about real life and applies to everybody not just in the hood.

This is just full of fail.

>Tries to defend rap
>Has no idea what he's defending

I like how he implies that what goes on in the hood isn't real life. Prat.
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luvs2gro
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#22
Quote by PoisonousNipple
Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.



Sorry if I offended you, you believe what you want and I will believe what I want.

I support the artists I listen to. Go to Band Camp and listen to Artists like Sabzi, Jiu Soul or even ESTA. I support all of these producers and I produce Hip Hop beats myself. Sabzi is quite popular as an established producer as well. If I do listen to Hip Hop it's usually producers like J Dilla and Madlib not rappers.

Mr. Lif rapping about occupy wall street is not directed at any particular race of people occupy wall street had many different races participating.

And so you know I don't even really listen to Hip Hop nearly as much as any other Genre, I was just saying out of all the Genres I know Hip Hop has the realest as it is much more lyrical than the other Genres I listen to are. The majority if the time I listen to jam bands like Phish, Umphrey's Mcgee, etc.

Again sorry if I offended you I just thought this would be an interesting thread.
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#23
Quote by PoisonousNipple
Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.

What are you even talking about?

You know nothing of hip hop.

I'm going to go back to my Schoolboy Q and you can go back to... whatever it is you're listening to.

don't get me started on hip hop and rap, son. I'll Andre 3000 you into the ground.
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luvs2gro
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#24
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This is just full of fail.

>Tries to defend rap
>Has no idea what he's defending

I like how he implies that what goes on in the hood isn't real life. Prat.


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#25
Quote by PoisonousNipple
Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.




Are you drunk?
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#26
I didn't read any responses to my replys because if you argued my points, you are guilty as charged in everything I wrote and you should feel bad for contributing to the destruction of the "real hip-hop" you claim to be so close to. Making beats dosn't make you part of the culture you steam roll through like a parasite with no remorse while supporting shitty internet artists and abandoning the starving artist on the street. Go and paint a wall in Spanish Harlem, I'm sure Seen would agree you're so hip-hop




EDIT: On topic, just about anything Euphrates/Narcicyst has made
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The fact that you even made half of those points proves that you don't know anything about it.

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#29
^^The above is a Cryptic Metaphor^^


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luvs2gro
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#32
Quote by PoisonousNipple
I didn't read any responses to my replys because if you argued my points, you are guilty as charged in everything I wrote and you should feel bad for contributing to the destruction of the "real hip-hop" you claim to be so close to. Making beats dosn't make you part of the culture you steam roll through like a parasite with no remorse while supporting shitty internet artists and abandoning the starving artist on the street. Go and paint a wall in Spanish Harlem, I'm sure Seen would agree you're so hip-hop



EDIT: On topic, just about anything Euphrates/Narcicyst has made


I never claimed to be part of the hip hop culture, I make beats for the love not because I want to be accepted into the "hip hop culture"

It seems like you are mistaking me for some one I'm not, and you judged me off my post, seeing that I posted two songs that, indeed have a real message behind them which is the topic of the thread, and the songs happened to be hip hop you assumed I was like a particular type of person you know and appear to loath.

did't mean to offend you, but I don't want to argue with you about this any more
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#39
Quote by PoisonousNipple
I didn't read any responses to my replys because if you argued my points, you are guilty as charged in everything I wrote and you should feel bad for contributing to the destruction of the "real hip-hop" you claim to be so close to. Making beats dosn't make you part of the culture you steam roll through like a parasite with no remorse while supporting shitty internet artists and abandoning the starving artist on the street. Go and paint a wall in Spanish Harlem, I'm sure Seen would agree you're so hip-hop




EDIT: On topic, just about anything Euphrates/Narcicyst has made



Dude, pull the stick out of your anus and chill. Just because someone argues your points doesn't mean their points are invalid. Saying "making beats doesnt make you a part of that culture" is like saying that deadmau5 isn't part of the electronica culture or Rammstein isn't part of the industrial culture. It's a load of BS. Also, people on the internet aren't all terrible and supporting them isn't any worse than supporting the "starving artist on the street". You need to chill and take a shower; you reek of trollstench.

EDIT: luv2gro, you should check out @TonyRose on tumblr. He's a friend of mine who makes some pretty sick beats himself.
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Quote by luvs2gro
Immortal Technique is bringing the heat so hard its almost chilling to listen to, I definitely consider him one of the modern artists putting out real music.


He brings the heat with his lyrics and his message. But his style is so unoriginal and boring I've found I can't listen to much of his catalogue.
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