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Blktiger0
The Name's Devon! ;)
Join date: Sep 2007
3,630 IQ
#361
They were certainly too close to name off of a situation without comparison. I wondered if they muddiness wasn't just the tubes dying.

This is definitely going to save me some time and money. I had originally planned on switching to KT77's across the board or else using a pair of EL34's and a pair of 6L6's a the same time for a similar effect. I'm definitely not going to bother now

I still might pick up some JJ 6V6's to try out, just for the fun of it. I wouldn't ever need them for a gig, nor would I use them, since I play Metal.

Also, I meant to address tubetime's thoughts on the Tweaker switches.

On the Vengeance, there are a similar set of switches, and each one makes a pretty pronounced difference. The Gain +/- switch makes quite a bit difference on it. I've played the Tweaker, but it's been a while since I realy sat down and messed with one, so I can't say for sure about the toggles on it, but I love the versatility from the switches on the Vengeance. It really lets you put the certain nuances you need for certain sounds, like a flubbier bass response, a more rounded high end, extra mids, less mids, etc. The Gain switch on the lead channel mostly adds a little push and gives it a darker Growl in the lower mids. Certainly not muddy, though, it's still very clear.
mmolteratx
UG God
Join date: Sep 2008
3,786 IQ
#362
TBH, the 6V6s sound kinda interesting, as they do have a lower input sensitivity so you'd be getting a bit more clipping at equal volumes. I never bothered with them since I've got an attenuator for home use, but they might be a decent solution for amps that can take them.
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Cathbard
Grumpy Old Tech
Join date: Oct 2009
2,565 IQ
#363
And they're good things. They even compare favourably to the Brimars I have (that's in the Champ). The Brimars may have a slight edge and will probably last longer but if coming in cold you'd never guess which one was in there without looking. That's saying something.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


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Blktiger0
The Name's Devon! ;)
Join date: Sep 2007
3,630 IQ
#364
At least I know if I get a set, I'll be getting something good, then

Just curious, but what would the wattage output of a pair of those be?

Also, after what Matt said, I think maybe at some point after I grab some recording gear, I'll buy a pair of each type of power tube and do a demo of each one cranked and each one with the volume cut back and show what the actual sound differences are. I'll stick with all JJ's for continuity in terms of brand, and do 6L6, 6V6, EL34, E34L, KT66, KT77, and KT88. Keep it setup the same for each clip, and set the bias to the middle of the recommended operating setting.

Do you guys think it would really be worth the time and effort to "debunk" the differences between them all?

Normally I wouldn't want to "waste" money like that, but either way, I'll always have the tubes as backups. I mean, if they all sound the same, I can throw any of those pairs in as a replacement for any other pair, and if they do actually sound different somehow, I can use those differences to my advantage.

For each one, I would probably just use my clean channel with all of the switches set to "-" except mids, which would be set to the middle, all of the EQ set to noon, and the Gain, Channel Volume, and Master Volume all set to 10. Would that be a fair testing ground?
cdr_salamander
or simply Nick
Join date: Mar 2009
1,335 IQ
#365
No. Just play the guitar. Leave the dumb shit to TGP. It will be tested eventually.
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tubetime86
I don't even play guitar.
Join date: Jul 2008
1,633 IQ
#367
Damn, we really should have considered swapping the word 'gimmick' for 'shenanigans.'
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Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
gregs1020
Hi mom!
Join date: Dec 2007
10,786 IQ
#368
Quote by mmolteratx
Literally days before I turn 21. How's Vegas on ID'ing?

not very big on it honestly.
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I don't think I've ever played anything in black walnut. It's a great ice cream flavor, so I assume it works well for a strat too.

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The slugs in the pickups for telecasters are from old winchester rifles, which is why they sound so country.
tubetime86
I don't even play guitar.
Join date: Jul 2008
1,633 IQ
#369
I went to a new restaraunt last night, a microbrew bar, and forgot my ID. I'm 26 and I was there with my wife... But I couldn't get served.
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Quote by Raijouta
Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#370
Quote by cdr_salamander
No. Just play the guitar. Leave the dumb shit to TGP. It will be tested eventually.



x2.

Waste of money....
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#372
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
free bump day


So apparently I missed the Kemper Rack version. I did hear the non-rack version with a band at the Seymour Duncan booth- the noise police were a bunch of bitches and shut the shit down for the next act....
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#375
Egnator booth was busy. No one messing around playing Anything.


Bogner had lots of guitars for people to play. The Atma was in constant use. Very full sounding and sounded like a real amp instead of small lunch box.
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
black_box
Tab Contributor
Join date: Jul 2006
247 IQ
#376
I sent egnator an email yesterday asking about a release date for the HG or Detroit series, we'll see if they get back to me. Does anyone have a close-up of the HG? I'm assuming that's what the black amps are.
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#377
Yeah the HG are the black ones.

Can you post back with the details once they reply back to you?
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#379
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
7,563 IQ
#381
Where is it? Is Craig gonna hook it up again?
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#383
I can only imagine how busy he is.

I haven't been on in a while. Wonder if he can do the same thing again, we need another epic NAMM thread.

Obviously I would be happy to go again.
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
mmolteratx
UG God
Join date: Sep 2008
3,786 IQ
#385
Quote by Offworld92
Where is it? Is Craig gonna hook it up again?


Winter NAMM is always in Anaheim, and summer NAMM is always in Nashville. Will stay that way at least through late next decade. Dunno about Craig hooking it up this go round. I'd love to go, but it's just at the most inconvenient time. A week and a half into a semester is about when I'm getting on prof's good sides.
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THD Flexi 50

Gibson R0 Prototype
EBMM JP13 Rosewood
Fender CS Mary Kaye

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Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
7,563 IQ
#386
If someone can get me a pass I'll definitely go this year.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#387
Quote by Offworld92
If someone can get me a pass I'll definitely go this year.


Email Craig. You can get his email off his site.

Not sure if it is past the free sign up or not. I have to get up at in a few hours otherwise I would. I'll probably forget.
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
7,563 IQ
#388
I just shot him an email. We'll see.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
riffhog
SLO Mojo
Join date: Apr 2007
838 IQ
#389
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Is anyone going to Winter NAMM 2014?



I'm going. I go every year. What would you like? I mean besides an autographed pic of 311
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Riffhog for President


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riffhog
SLO Mojo
Join date: Apr 2007
838 IQ
#390
Quote by Offworld92
If someone can get me a pass I'll definitely go this year.


If you're in SoCal, maybe try some of the smaller local music dealers/shops, & see if they're NAMM members. The passes only cost $25, but you have do some leg work if you don't know anyone who's a member. Just ask the store owner/member if they'd be willing to get you a pass if you pay for the pass & buy them a 12-pack or something, or slip them a little extra cash. It helps if it's a store where you actually do business. I tried to locate a link to a NAMM member list, but gave up after a short time...couldn't find one. Just ask around, & good luck!
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Riffhog for President


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There's no point apologising for your feet smelling when there's a 300lb gorilla in the room taking a crap on the couch.


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Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
7,563 IQ
#391
Heard back from Craig. He says he's busy and most likely won't make it this winter.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Dec 22, 2013,
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#392
I would remove that response.
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
7,563 IQ
#393
My mistake, I meant no ill.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#394
No biggie.
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#396
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
anyone?


We must depend on the guy with the family guy picture.

Riffhog. Hopefully he takes pictures before he gets drunk. A bunch of blurry pictures would be a let down.
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
Last edited by R45VT at Jan 19, 2014,
R45VT
Doesn't speak guitar
Join date: Dec 2009
1,110 IQ
#398
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
he said he would take phone pics


I have faith in Stewie.
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.