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#1
So I wrote a song I'm very proud of a couple months back and presented it to my band at the time. We made it into a complete song and all was great. I quit the band about a week later due to some troubles that we had been having for awhile and I decided I was done with the band.

It was my intention to carry that song over with me to my next band, but a couple days ago, I was told that they were putting the song on their album and they wanted me to come into the studio to record my parts for it. I agreed, but was a little annoyed because I viewed it as them stealing my song. I am going in to the studio to record it tomorrow.

So would you guys view that as having a song stolen from you? Or did it become property of the band as soon as we finalized it into a proper song?
#2
You should work out a deal where you both have performing rights or something. If it bugs you that bad don't go tomorrow (in a professional way obviously).

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#3
The parts you wrote are yours.
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#4
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The parts you wrote are yours.


This too. Are they at least crediting you as a writer for the song?

I'm sure you'll come up with a better song later anyway. >_>
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#7
Dude, I fear this all the time when contemplating joining a band.

Shoots, I'm even afraid of putting my own stuff on UG. Anyone can just click play and say "Hey, I like that, why don't I use it?" and I will be left defenseless. But I guess I'm just paranoid like that.
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Dude, I fear this all the time when contemplating joining a band.

Shoots, I'm even afraid of putting my own stuff on UG. Anyone can just click play and say "Hey, I like that, why don't I use it?" and I will be left defenseless. But I guess I'm just paranoid like that.

Except you have proof that you came up with it first. You published it on the website. It's not fool proof, but it does prevent someone from just saying "mine!"
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#9
Is that band touring and with a label and stuff? Because if they aren't either one of those or both, then its really kinda irrelevant. The songs isn't worth enough to either one of you to do anything legal about it. If they are actually touring and/or with some kind of label, then don't let them use it if you don't want to. Or make them pay you. Especially because you're recording it.

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Dude, I fear this all the time when contemplating joining a band.

Shoots, I'm even afraid of putting my own stuff on UG. Anyone can just click play and say "Hey, I like that, why don't I use it?" and I will be left defenseless. But I guess I'm just paranoid like that.


Chances are anything you post won't end up making anybody any money, so it doesn't matter. No offense, this is not aimed specifically, I don't think anything anyone has ever shared on UG has made anyone a significant amount of money.
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#10
of you wrote it, it should probablt tell them it's lame that they are recording it and and deny helping out 'cuz it's p rude of them. i ouldn 't imagine doing that shit. stay posi, no matter what yr gonna right cool nw songs so whatever theyb record won't make a dofference. like people are always improving yanno, unless yr a sellout.
#11
You should definitely be given a writing credit, and it would obviously be nice for both bands to have performing rights. Also, maybe whoever wrote it should get to keep the lyrics and whoever didn't should perform it with different lyrics. That may be harder to work out, though.
#12
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Are you drunk? If so, I envy you.


I was just gonna ask him the same thing. Some serious word slurring going on there.
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#13
Im pretty sure Ill be recieving some sort of credit on the album. And no they have not played a show since I have quit, they still have not even replaced me yet. I think the best thing I can do is just talk to them about it, see what their intentions and tell them how I feel about it.
#14
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Are you drunk? If so, I envy you.

yeah but that doesn't change my options. ;sorry i forgot to spell check heheheh.

btw i'm in a band w/ my best friends and i don't need to worry about anyone being a dick and stealing my songs. \m/
#15
Quote by chronic_stp
I was told that they were putting the song on their album and they wanted me to come into the studio to record my parts for it. I agreed...

There's your problem. Don't record it if you don't approve of them using it, that's like polishing the guillotine for your own execution.

Btw, I'm also libertarian
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#16
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Are you drunk? If so, I envy you.


I figured that was just his typing style like he usually does.
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#17
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I figured that was just his typing style like he usually does.


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#19
shit got real
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everything that you've come to expect


#20
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I remember due 07 but I can't really remember because he changed his avatar.

a loooong time ago (like i was 13 or some bs) i was a creepy fick w/ a slene gomez avatar, but now that was a different kid. now i basically post about feminism and queer politics and diy music, but everyone hates me because every one is misogynistic and honophobic and lamestream. that's ok though because this is a semi-anonymous internet forum. anyway op should really bring shut up with his old band, because honestly that's jut not cool, simple as.

hey i remember you sayinf you were worried about becoming an alcoholic or something a long time ago , or maybe ut was someine else, but if it was you then you shouldn't envy me. 'cuz being dependent on shit probably isn't cool for you, it
s better as something you do for fun.
#21
Meh...that's what happens when you write for a group. Consider that they like it enough to keep it even if you're not in the band. That's a compliment.
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#23
The only time I was ever in a band I wrote all the music and half the lyrics, none of them ever had a problem with me "owning" the songs.

DisturbEDIT: I ended up deciding I didn't want to do it anymore, and they were going to continue without me but I'd always thought of them as songs for that band so I had no issues with them using them even though I made them.
Not much I could/can do with 5 or 6 dodgy metalcore songs anyway.
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#24
Quote by Danjo's Guitar
Is that band touring and with a label and stuff? Because if they aren't either one of those or both, then its really kinda irrelevant. The songs isn't worth enough to either one of you to do anything legal about it. If they are actually touring and/or with some kind of label, then don't let them use it if you don't want to. Or make them pay you. Especially because you're recording it.


Chances are anything you post won't end up making anybody any money, so it doesn't matter. No offense, this is not aimed specifically, I don't think anything anyone has ever shared on UG has made anyone a significant amount of money.


Forever Road make ****ing bank, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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a loooong time ago (like i was 13 or some bs) i was a creepy fick w/ a slene gomez avatar, but now that was a different kid. now i basically post about feminism and queer politics and diy music, but everyone hates me because every one is misogynistic and honophobic and lamestream. that's ok though because this is a semi-anonymous internet forum. anyway op should really bring shut up with his old band, because honestly that's jut not cool, simple as.

hey i remember you sayinf you were worried about becoming an alcoholic or something a long time ago , or maybe ut was someine else, but if it was you then you shouldn't envy me. 'cuz being dependent on shit probably isn't cool for you, it
s better as something you do for fun.


lol we hate you cause you're gay
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#27
Quote by due 07
of you wrote it, it should probablt tell them it's lame that they are recording it and and deny helping out 'cuz it's p rude of them. i ouldn 't imagine doing that shit. stay posi, no matter what yr gonna right cool nw songs so whatever theyb record won't make a dofference. like people are always improving yanno, unless yr a sellout.


why do you type like this? O_O
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#28
Quote by due 07
a loooong time ago (like i was 13 or some bs) i was a creepy fick w/ a slene gomez avatar, but now that was a different kid. now i basically post about feminism and queer politics and diy music, but everyone hates me because every one is misogynistic and honophobic and lamestream. that's ok though because this is a semi-anonymous internet forum. anyway op should really bring shut up with his old band, because honestly that's jut not cool, simple as.

hey i remember you sayinf you were worried about becoming an alcoholic or something a long time ago , or maybe ut was someine else, but if it was you then you shouldn't envy me. 'cuz being dependent on shit probably isn't cool for you, it
s better as something you do for fun.

Scumbag Due:
Campaigns for Gay and Women's rights.
Stereotypes everyone on UG as homophobic misogynists.
#29
Quote by due 07
yeah but that doesn't change my options. ;sorry i forgot to spell check heheheh.

btw i'm in a band w/ my best friends and i don't need to worry about anyone being a dick and stealing my songs. \m/


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lol we hate you cause you're gay


You're just jelly I gave him head and you didn't
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#32
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Bitch, you did gave me head.

You gave me head while I fucked yer ass


NUH UH!
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NUH UH!


Yeah you did you slut, don't lie
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#34
Well, as long as you wrote the melody and lyrics, the song is technically yours. Even though the other guys in the band added an accompaniment to it, you have the rights in a legal sense. If someone wrote the melody and you put the lyrics to it (or vice-versa), then you'll both "own" the song.

You should just ask for the credits as the (or one of the) writer of the song. For performing rights, I wouldn't really know what you would do here. I think you can get royalties if they perform the song live.
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#35
DAMN THEM FOLKS! DAMN THEM!

it belongs to you. Period.
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#36
Quote by slipknot5678
You should work out a deal where you both have performing rights or something. If it bugs you that bad don't go tomorrow (in a professional way obviously).

This.

I mean, really...it was your song.
#37
DAMN THEM FOLKS! DAMN THEM!

it belongs to you. Period.
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#38
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lol we hate you cause you're gay

shut up you rapist cunt.
#39
I'm on the fence about this issue

I see it as if you write a song for a band that you currently play in, then that song belongs to the band, regardless of who leaves, even if it is the person who wrote it. That's how I've always worked anyway

I do understand however that anything one writes for a band is like cutting off a chunk of your own flesh just so the rest of the band can mutilate it into submission, but each to their own I guess.
#40
it's not stolen per se. if you'd made it very clear you didn't want them to do it, then it might be. even then, you agreed to do your parts, right? sounds like an implicit agreement to me.

just make sure you at least get a share in the songwriting credits if they aren't shared by the whole band.

see: metallica - "four horsemen" and megadeth - "mechanix", etc.
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