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#41
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I also want to show my support in a non-crude sort of way.

Treat her like nothing's changed. Can't get much more supportive than "I don't care what's between your legs, you're still my friend."
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#42
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Treat her like nothing's changed. Can't get much more supportive than "I don't care what's between your legs, you're still my friend."


It's not like what's between her legs is changing. At least not now, and possibly not even in the long run.
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#43
To be honest i would find it patronising. Then again, i don't know any transgender people, but if a friend came out as gay or transgender or something, i would just say congratulations on coming out, then treat them no different to how i usually do.
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#45
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i would just say congratulations on coming out, then treat them no different to how i usually do.

I hope you'd at least change your personal pronouns.
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#46
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How about don't do shit. I don't get f@cking presents for being straight.
Or male, or being Multi ethnic.

You're making it weirder by doing anything at all. Praising her for who she is, is like patting a dog on the head just for being a dog.

Wait..


Thank you for saving me the trouble of articulating what I think. In my opinion giving a gift is patronising, yes.
#47
I wouldn't make it anything more than it has to be.
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#48
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Thank you for saving me the trouble of articulating what I think. In my opinion giving a gift is patronising, yes.


Don't think of it as a gift. Think of it as more like giving supplies. It's like if a knight is embarking on a journey to slay a dragon and rescue a princess, you wouldn't give him a present for going to rescue her but you would give him a sword, a bow, arrows, armor, a horse, and TM13 because the dragon is likely also a flying type.
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#49
Quote by McTodd
Heya, pitters

A friend of mine came out last week as transgender. Everyone has been very supportive and cool, and she seems a lot happier since. However, I have no idea what the expected protocol is here - I also want to show my support in a non-crude sort of way. I can't tell if getting her a present would be hilarious or patronising.

So - anybody have any experience with this kind of thing? Anybody come out as anything and got cool presents?

he*
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#50
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he*


what
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#51
Quote by beefcake122
he*

*she
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#52
Give her a hug.
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now i just use a fork, 'cuz nothing is fun anymore & i just want to shovel food into my mouth to fill the void
#54
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Give her a hug.


There's no reason to do that right now though.
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#56
Yeah, that's not really how it works.
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#58
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There's no reason to do that right now though.


That's the beauty of hugging: you don't need a reason.
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the chinese take-out place my family always ordered from gave you chopsticks, so as a kid it was fun to try & eat with chopsticks
now i just use a fork, 'cuz nothing is fun anymore & i just want to shovel food into my mouth to fill the void
#59
sorry but that's it how it works, you don't get to choose which gender you "identify" as, how about I just identify myself as a panda?
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#60
Quote by beefcake122
Sorry he's still a guy, guys.

She came out, afaik that kinda marks the point where it is respectful to use the desired pronouns.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#61
Quote by beefcake122
you don't get to choose which gender you "identify" as


Yeah, and she didn't choose.
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#62
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sorry but that's it how it works, you don't get to choose which gender you "identify" as, how about I just identify myself as a panda?


Do that. Nobody will give a crap.
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the chinese take-out place my family always ordered from gave you chopsticks, so as a kid it was fun to try & eat with chopsticks
now i just use a fork, 'cuz nothing is fun anymore & i just want to shovel food into my mouth to fill the void
#64
That's called a furry.
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#65
I had a mate in college that everybody referred to as 'Panda', even the teachers forgot his actual name. I went to high school with him though, I think I was one of the few people there who ever knew his first name.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#68
I hope she isn't one of those scene girls who claims they're a lesbian to seem 'quirky' and 'original'. I know a load of people who have done that and it's pathetic.


I think I was one of the few people there who ever knew his first name.


That's kind of sad in some ways.
#69
Quote by beefcake122
sorry but that's it how it works, you don't get to choose which gender you "identify" as, how about I just identify myself as a panda?

I doubt there's much point in talking some sense into you, seeing as you're comparing someone wanting to change their gender to better fit their identity to calling yourself a goddamn panda.
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#70
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That's kind of sad in some ways.

Panda was a cooler name, and there's no harm in a nickname. And it was a music performance course, the people are supposed to be quirky or project personas or whatever
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#71
i read this thread and the whole time was debating whether or not i would have sex with a woman's body after she/he came out and are now trans
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#73
Panda was a cooler name, and there's no harm in a nickname. And it was a music performance course, the people are supposed to be quirky or project personas or whatever


Ah fair enough, I was on one of those music courses and you meet some pretty funny lads :L
#74
This is bringing a tear to my eye, seeing how compassionate the Pit can be<3 ilufyugys

Srs though, give that bitch a hug. Bitches love hugs.

Also, Kristen, you rule.
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#76
You might just get a gift card for her and tell her to plan a shopping date. I tag along with female friends when they shop on occasion. They seem to appreciate it. And if she goes after the transition it might be a good way to adjust to being in public.
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#77
I have no idea what the protocol is, but if anything, get her a gift card to a clothing store or something of that nature. Clothes cost money.
#78
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How about you and your friends just take her out to dinner? Or a group photo of you guys in a nice frame. Your support is probably the most important thing to her, I think a photo of all her friends around her would help illustrate that.

This is a good idea, TS should follow it.
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You might just get a gift card for her and tell her to plan a shopping date. I tag along with female friends when they shop on occasion. They seem to appreciate it.


This is always a good idea. It's weird going to public places for the first time. Though honestly I've never really been anywhere besides school while presenting as female, and even then, it's not like I'm trying to pass, so it's not really that uncomfortable. I look more like a transvestite than a transsexual.

And if she goes after the transition it might be a good way to adjust to being in public.


Well... that's not exactly how transitioning works, but it's definitely good "practice" I guess you could say.

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I have no idea what the protocol is, but if anything, get her a gift card to a clothing store or something of that nature. Clothes cost money.


Clothes are expensive, but you can always buy cheap secondhand stuff or ask female friends for their old stuff. That's actually what TS could do. Just ask other friends for stuff for his friend.

Also get your friend to start hanging out with the GSA if your school has one. The whole queer community is super supportive, so I'm sure some of them would be willing to let her have stuff. Like a friend of mine who also just came out as trans took me to meet his friend that was the president of our GSA (and trans as well) he and his girlfriend gave me a bunch of old stuff.

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