Menendez13
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Hello everyone , my name is Diego Menendez musician and filmmaker(on the web with s) and i am coming from city of center of
Europe called Ljubljana.I will off course join you also in others debates, ', but now I wanna show you a trailer for a film I made.
I made this film about the ideas of left and right, I show my city in different times from Capitalism, Fascism and Communism,
from different totalitarian times, it also shows the short view of European national, ethnic, racial, and religious conflicts.
You have left wing and right wing people, well I am not any of these, and this film tries to show you that political identification
is always developing on your life experience's conditions. Movie title is "We Are All Ljubljana/Laibach" (the name used by Nazis and Fascists), so in this time of crisis it seems that all totalitarian ideas are coming back very dangerously, check the trailer i hope you like it and maybe we can discuss something about it or something else .

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I think we have another user from Ljubljana on here. He has that avatar with the guy with the backwards hat.
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What the hell is up the with music? Is this a horror film? A sci fi film?
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That trailer really creeped me the **** out.
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That trailer is all over the place. It's almost comical due to the melodramatics. Tone it down a notch and it could be taken seriously.
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That trailer is all over the place. It's almost comical due to the melodramatics. Tone it down a notch and it could be taken seriously.

Also, correct grammar wouldn't hurt.

I know TS isn't a native English speaker, but for example, instead of "This is a film about city", it should be "This is a film about a city". Tone the trailer down and correct any minor grammar mistakes like that, and it'll be taken seriously, I'd say.
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What the hell is up the with music? Is this a horror film? A sci fi film?

It is very scary film, it is a horror, but i called it POLITICAL HORROR, i mean what can be more scary than twisted two sided elite political face
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It is very scary film, it is a horror, but i called it POLITICAL HORROR, i mean what can be more scary than twisted two sided elite political face

It's not a primal fear, people won't really connect with that.
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TS if I were you I wouldn't bother trying to do it in English.

Your broken English makes it pretty unwatchable for English speakers anyway, so you might as well just stick to Slovenian.


EDIT: on a related note: I quite liked Ljubljana when I went. A quite pretty little city, which is especially nice considering it's the capital. It's nice to see a capital that's not a throbbing metropolis.

I remember noticing a lot of political graffiti when I was there...





...and some shit graffiti too...

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Menendez13
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I see you very confused, everyone, i mean really everyone told, that my English is suprisingly good, so i really don know what do you mean, in the film there is maybe one or two mistakes and that s it. The most importat thing is that trailer is very strong like most people said, i really dont give a shit about your broken Yugoslavian.. I mean English
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I see you very confused, everyone, i mean really everyone told, that my English is suprisingly good, so i really don know what do you mean, in the film there is maybe one or two mistakes and that s it. The most importat thing is that trailer is very strong like most people said, i really dont give a shit about your broken Yugoslavian.. I mean English

You're on a English language forum with mostly native English speakers. "Surprisingly good" doesn't mean much. It doesn't even tell you the much about your proficiency, just that it's at a surprising level, but not where that level is.

How "strong" your trailer doesn't matter if your audience, which I presume is English speaking, is getting distracted by bad grammar (among other things). You should learn to give a shit because you have to know and care about your audience. If you don't, your audience won't give a crap about you or what you're trying to say. So pull your head out of your ass and fix it.
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Are you familiar with the industrial/ metal/ folk band Laibach? Theyre awesome.
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I see you very confused, everyone, i mean really everyone told, that my English is suprisingly good, so i really don know what do you mean, in the film there is maybe one or two mistakes and that s it. The most importat thing is that trailer is very strong like most people said, i really dont give a shit about your broken Yugoslavian.. I mean English

I'm not denying you speak English a lot better than a lot of people, nor that you can speak it better than I can speak any other foreign language, but even just that post really proves my point.

"I see you very confused, everyone, I mean really everyone told, that my English is surprisingly good" really obviously sticks out as quite confusing for an English speaker. I think I understand what you mean (apart from the "I see you very confused", I don't know if that means you're confused or you think we are), but it would really not work for an entire film, let alone that trailer.


On on a slightly related note, I don't understand why there are subtitles on those clips of people giving speeches, especially as it's too fast to read and they don't finish any of their sentences anyway. If you're trying to show clips of big political speeches to set the mood, get rid of the subtitles, they're useless.

And for that matter, a lot of the subtitles on other parts are printed over each other or on background where they're unreadable, even when they're slow enough to actually read.


Sorry to sound so negative, but you should know how this film appears to other people.
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A big thing trailers are supposed to do is make you want to see the movie. I can't say I would even want to see the trailer again, let alone spend the time to see the movie. I feel like the cutting and editing of the trailer as a whole was all over the place. Most of the time a clip would only be up for a second or two before it changed and I felt like I couldn't follow it at all.Also, why the creepy, dramatic music? I understand that you want to make it seem seem scary and everything, but it's not really that kind of movie.
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I'm not denying you speak English a lot better than a lot of people, nor that you can speak it better than I can speak any other foreign language, but even just that post really proves my point.

"I see you very confused, everyone, I mean really everyone told, that my English is surprisingly good" really obviously sticks out as quite confusing for an English speaker. I think I understand what you mean (apart from the "I see you very confused", I don't know if that means you're confused or you think we are), but it would really not work for an entire film, let alone that trailer.


On on a slightly related note, I don't understand why there are subtitles on those clips of people giving speeches, especially as it's too fast to read and they don't finish any of their sentences anyway. If you're trying to show clips of big political speeches to set the mood, get rid of the subtitles, they're useless.

And for that matter, a lot of the subtitles on other parts are printed over each other or on background where they're unreadable, even when they're slow enough to actually read.


Sorry to sound so negative, but you should know how this film appears to other people.


Well i am grateful for this about my titles, i was thinking that, they are kind of fast to read, but every viewer can press stop button and read the subtitle, well i really dont wanna start too much about the subtitles fact, ok they are probably very fast and maybe i should remove them, but in the other hand, people outside of Slovenia or ex Yugoslavia got to see what is actually happenin in our country, so you really cant show them without subtitles, i mean you can.. But much harder. About the trailer, i got very large interest somwhere, and people who didn like it, that is normal offcourse.
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Are you familiar with the industrial/ metal/ folk band Laibach? Theyre awesome.


Well, Laibach live in the same city like me, i actually contact them for this project, cause i
filmed their scenograpy and some scenes conected with them, this film is more about city Ljubljana but also about the band Laibach, let say 20%.
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To be constructive: I understand what you were trying to achieve with the trailer: a disorienting, horror film-esque aesthetic. However, I think that it moves a little too fast when some of the clips and images that you use are scary enough on their own that you could rest on them just a little longer and not lose that deliberately uncomfortable feeling.

If it was a little less choppy, you could really use the clips for all that they are worth without losing the feeling of the tempo. In fact, I think it would add to that sense of discord.
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Well, Laibach live in the same city like me, i actually contact them for this project, cause i
filmed their scenograpy and some scenes conected with them, this film is more about city Ljubljana but also about the band Laibach, let say 20%.


Really? How so?

For those sorry souls unaware with Laibach, life is life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC73Os9NmZE
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now we're talking about the band laibach?

fuck yeah

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Well i am grateful for this about my titles, i was thinking that, they are kind of fast to read, but every viewer can press stop button and read the subtitle, well i really dont wanna start too much about the subtitles fact, ok they are probably very fast and maybe i should remove them, but in the other hand, people outside of Slovenia or ex Yugoslavia got to see what is actually happenin in our country, so you really cant show them without subtitles, i mean you can.. But much harder. About the trailer, i got very large interest somwhere, and people who didn like it, that is normal offcourse.

People shouldn't have to pause to read subtitles. That's a very bad sign. You're trying to encourage people to watch your film, not make it more difficult to do so.
If people can't read the subtitles the solution isn't for them to pause the video, it's for you to slow it down.


And the subtitles in the speech parts really don't help people to see what's happening. As I say, they aren't even full sentences.

"That we hate from the deep of our heart Communism and we strongly" adds nothing, even if they pause to read it (which I just did). People understand the tone from the music and the fact you're showing video of political marches. You're trying to show a sense of social unrest and political divide, which is already shown and in no way helped by the half sentence above.
The next subtitle "Communists realised that, without National emancipation, there can't" again is completely unhelpful. It is again too fast and on a very busy background so quite unreadable, and again isn't even a full sentence. There can't what? It adds nothing.

The sentence "Denie their Bolshevik Jewish corrupted with gold from rich criminals and murderes" is actually on screen for less than a second. It's pointless.


Well I'm bored of listing these problems, but I get the feeling you're not going to change anything anyway.

Just slow it down, stop cutting back and forth so often, get rid of the useless subtitles, actually take care with the font and position of any writing (there was one page with at least 3 different font sizes spread across the page), and just generally... take a little more time polishing this up. It's very difficult to watch, and I'm sorry to say not very good.
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Quote by Menendez13
Well i am grateful for this about my titles, i was thinking that, they are kind of fast to read, but every viewer can press stop button and read the subtitle, well i really dont wanna start too much about the subtitles fact, ok they are probably very fast and maybe i should remove them, but in the other hand, people outside of Slovenia or ex Yugoslavia got to see what is actually happenin in our country, so you really cant show them without subtitles, i mean you can.. But much harder. About the trailer, i got very large interest somwhere, and people who didn like it, that is normal offcourse.



If you think that is a legitimate idea, stop making movies. Never touch a camera again.
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