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gtgates
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#1
Hello again guys
I have problem with my playing and tone recently .I realized I cant play like me when i play in front of my friends[you know showing licks etc..].. I play like an amatuer in front of my friends . actually I dont know what to play in front of them...

Im using ernie ball coated strings since 3 months they were really good but these days they fell rusty and they sound different[bad].

..and I think because of that Im in a rut again..I cant do legato and stuff its feels less distortion I cant feel the strings...I feel like im getting worse at guitar...I have a mind block or smth like that..

Here is some of my recordings.Please criticize

Thanks
Last edited by gtgates at Apr 20, 2013,
MaggaraMarine
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Change your strings if they feel bad.

Judging by the demos you can play pretty well technically. Though I didn't really bother to listen to your playing for more than three minutes because it was too much shred. (Nothing wrong with it if that's what you want to do but I'm not sure if people want to listen to it. I mean, people want to hear something more musical.)

Why do you play in front of your friends? Are they guitarists or do they just want to hear you play? If you don't know what to play, play some songs that you like. Maybe jam with your friends if they play some instruments. I feel it's easier to jam with people than just show your skills to people who can't play.
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dude guitar strings are like $5 you pussy i have to pay $35 for mine

and wait when i get a 7 string bass

god i hate you
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dude guitar strings are like $5 you pussy i have to pay $35 for mine

and wait when i get a 7 string bass

god i hate you
That's why I never change my bass strings. Buying bass strings is such a bitch.
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That's why I never change my bass strings. Buying bass strings is such a bitch.


yeah you can usually get away with it, but i play pretty intensely so there's contrast/dynamics (and so i can cut-through without needing a pick). i broke my low E on my backup bass the other day with my double-thumb getting a little too friendly

but if i were to join a modern metal band, i'd definitely need a fresh set every month or two to keep that crisp sound up, especially in lower-tuned stuff (which i'd love to do so i'd have an excuse to get a dingwall combustion)

but damn, i may as well just learn to wind my own strings so i don't have to choose between groceries and strings when i'm a starving artist with no future
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Yeah I tend to go for the darker tone anyway, so I'm able to deal with old dull strings. It's been years since I've broken a bass string. I broke the G once doing some slap/pop and the low E once playing standard fingerstyle I believe (clearly way too hard).
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there's no such thing as too hard when you need to cut through the mix since i play chords a lot i need to overcompensate on single note runs or use a lot of compression that kills any chance of dynamics

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4727809787831 lol
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gtgates
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Change your strings if they feel bad.

Judging by the demos you can play pretty well technically. Though I didn't really bother to listen to your playing for more than three minutes because it was too much shred. (Nothing wrong with it if that's what you want to do but I'm not sure if people want to listen to it. I mean, people want to hear something more musical.)

Why do you play in front of your friends? Are they guitarists or do they just want to hear you play? If you don't know what to play, play some songs that you like. Maybe jam with your friends if they play some instruments. I feel it's easier to jam with people than just show your skills to people who can't play.

thanks man.. they want me to play..Or When I try guitar ar guitar shop...tone feels shitty and I canf show myself

and lol strings much more expensive in turkey...
and its hard to find coated strings
thanks for advices
Last edited by gtgates at Jan 31, 2013,
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Yeah - shred is alright in short bursts but most people like a decent melody. So work on that.

Y'ain't got nothing to be embarrassed about in the finger department though.
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if i tell you yes will you stop doing it before every other note
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if i tell you yes will you stop doing it before every other note

i dunno bro maybe
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Quote by gtgates
thanks man.. they want me to play..Or When I try guitar ar guitar shop...tone feels shitty and I canf show myself

and lol strings much more expensive in turkey...
and its hard to find coated strings
thanks for advices

I sometimes have the same problem when I go to guitar store. But before I go to the store, I decide some songs that I'm going to play and that are pretty easy for me to play (for example Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle). Remember that you don't go to music store to show your skills but try some gear that you might buy. Of course you don't want to embarrass yourself and fail when you play Smoke on the Water.

When you play alone, it doesn't matter if you do stupid mistakes because nobody's there to laugh at you. Maybe choose a song that you want your friends to hear (not just mindless shredding). It could be some more popular song that they know. I think they will be more happy to hear a song that they know than some mindless shredding. So if you know some songs pretty well, maybe play them. You don't need to show all your skills. Yeah, playing in front of friends is pretty much the same as going to music store and trying some amps/guitars, I would play the same things in both situations.

About the string problems: You should always have some money to buy new strings. If you need to change strings frequently, maybe buy a large package of strings. Then you don't need to buy new strings all the time. If you know what strings you are going to use, buy them online if you can't find them anywhere else. And buy more than one set of strings at the time.
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I sometimes have the same problem when I go to guitar store. But before I go to the store, I decide some songs that I'm going to play and that are pretty easy for me to play (for example Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle). Remember that you don't go to music store to show your skills but try some gear that you might buy. Of course you don't want to embarrass yourself and fail when you play Smoke on the Water.

When you play alone, it doesn't matter if you do stupid mistakes because nobody's there to laugh at you. Maybe choose a song that you want your friends to hear (not just mindless shredding). It could be some more popular song that they know. I think they will be more happy to hear a song that they know than some mindless shredding. So if you know some songs pretty well, maybe play them. You don't need to show all your skills. Yeah, playing in front of friends is pretty much the same as going to music store and trying some amps/guitars, I would play the same things in both situations.

About the string problems: You should always have some money to buy new strings. If you need to change strings frequently, maybe buy a large package of strings. Then you don't need to buy new strings all the time. If you know what strings you are going to use, buy them online if you can't find them anywhere else. And buy more than one set of strings at the time.

thanks man..
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Hello I just made Sweet Child O'Mine's solo cover...I transcribed the solo without listening ...Can you please criticize?
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MaggaraMarine
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Without listening? What do you mean? You transcribed a solo without even listening to the song?

BTW. They are in Eb tuning. Doesn't really matter.
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Without listening? What do you mean? You transcribed a solo without even listening to the song?

BTW. They are in Eb tuning. Doesn't really matter.

lol not like that of course I know the song I just didnt listened it while i was transcribeng it I just learned it with its melody in my head and I played it on Standart Tunning...
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congrats now you can play at an 8th grade talent show and not get completely booed off stage
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Honestly dude it's hard to tell how it sounds half of the time because your webcam cuts out a lot.
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I would highly suggest you don't post videos until you have a somewhat decent camera/recorder. It's hard to hear and see what you're doing.

How do you practice?
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Do everyone a favor and if you're playing for a bunch of people alone... don't shred for 10 minutes, just jam out on chords. Or at least hint to the chords that are backing and provide some sort of groove.

Your soloing sounds decent enough so try to put it together with your rhythm playing. Pretend like you're in a trio.
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pretend you're gonna get evicted if you suck

then if you proceed to get evicted, film yourself being homeless and you'll eventually be a better guitarist. keep doing this until you're matthew kane
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haha thanks for the advices guys...
and Im not homeless [yet] Im 17 years old...and I record myself everyday so I can see my progress
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Tbh recording yourself once a week is probably enough. Day-by-day progress is usually imperceptible with an instrument - progress is usually only perceptible over slightly longer periods of time.
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I hurt myself by watching those videos.


Fixed
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those videos made me want to hurt myself.

start practicing music.

sorry for that...
and that post gave me sadness and probably some other stuff...
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sorry for that...
and that post gave me sadness and probably some other stuff...

Don't take it the wrong way.
It's not that you are bad at guitar, it's that if you think you're in a RUT, it's because you aren't playing music with the technical abilities you have available to you.

We've all probably been there on some level. I can remember being in a similar position. From listening to you play it seems like you probably sit down and practice technical exercises and try to play things fast, but you probably don't learn a lot of songs or transcribe solos.

You really should just start playing music.
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gtgates
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Don't take it the wrong way.
It's not that you are bad at guitar, it's that if you think you're in a RUT, it's because you aren't playing music with the technical abilities you have available to you.

We've all probably been there on some level. I can remember being in a similar position. From listening to you play it seems like you probably sit down and practice technical exercises and try to play things fast, but you probably don't learn a lot of songs or transcribe solos.

You really should just start playing music.


thanks man ... thats exactly my problem now I realised that I play sh.ty stuff with backing tracks when Im in rut...
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Yeah - don't worry about us all talking shit. That's just how things are here. And you'll be better off with 1 honest opinion than 20 false ones. Unfortunately what you have are 20 honest opinions and that can be a bit raw sometimes.

Srsly though - don't record yourself so much - you won't get as much out of it as you think you will. You'd be better off thinking more about music and where you want to go with that - let your influences carry you to different places and see what those places are like.

And screw your friends if they laugh at you.

...

Er - as in 'ignore your friends', not 'have sex with your friends'.
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have sex with them then ignore them

it's like the V-I punch
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Why do I get the feeling this is a "hey guyz look at me and tell me I'm great plz" threads?

Anyway, I think you're pretty developed technique wise.
I would suggest you work on your musicianship if you want to be more "listenable". It's not that I think you lack it (can't tell by the clips) it's just that people enjoy simple music played with good tone,dynamics,groove, etc more than random really fast notes coming out of the amp.
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So you're saying that every ex girlfriend of mine was really into tonal music.

That's deep, man.
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Why do I get the feeling this is a "hey guyz look at me and tell me I'm great plz" threads?

Anyway, I think you're pretty developed technique wise.
I would suggest you work on your musicianship if you want to be more "listenable". It's not that I think you lack it (can't tell by the clips) it's just that people enjoy simple music played with good tone,dynamics,groove, etc more than random really fast notes coming out of the amp.


thanks for the advices and not really man I didnt mean like that.. sometimes I find myself in a mindblock and i feel suck and when I go play in a diffrent place I cant play a shit [cant show myself]..Of course I would love to hear good critics like everybody, but main point that i added my videos to get some advices to get over it.
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Quote by gtgates
thanks for the advices and not really man I didnt mean like that.. sometimes I find myself in a mindblock and i feel suck and when I go play in a diffrent place I cant play a shit [cant show myself]..Of course I would love to hear good critics like everybody, but main point that i added my videos to get some advices to get over it.


I would say the only solution to getting more comfortable playing places/for friends is to keep doing it and being confident in yourself. I would suggest learning a popular song or two that they like and doodle around that when you're with them. Doing that will end up in them complimenting your skill(even if it is just a simple pop song) and giving you a confidence boost, which will hopefully make you more comfortable playing stuff you like.
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I tried some improv on backing tracks... I tried to use my musical side than my technical side..
and I have a question for you guys... Which scales Synyster Gates uses?
Last edited by gtgates at Jun 24, 2014,
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^ It's better to find it out by yourself. Just listen to his solos and learn to play them. Remember that scales don't make you sound like somebody. (And I bet he uses the same scales as everybody else = major and minor and accidentals.)
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^ It's better to find it out by yourself. Just listen to his solos and learn to play them. Remember that scales don't make you sound like somebody. (And I bet he uses the same scales as everybody else = major and minor and accidentals.)

I know that... I dont use scales..When I play with backing tracks I just make a scale my own...I always learn and figure out things by ear.
but I just want to know which scales he uses and learn a little bit about music theory he makes really cool harmonies he mixes major and minors...I can play Afterlife Nightmare and Bat Country's solos with harmonises...
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I just learned Asian Hooker's solo...I really need a good camera
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