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#41
Quote by SlackerBabbath
This.

The conflict between Arabs and Isralies goes back much further than 1947. The Jews claim that the land of Israel was promised by God only to the descendants of Abraham's younger son Isaac, while the Arabs argue that it was promised to all descendants of Abraham, including his elder son Ishmael, from whom Arabs claim descent.

Wait.

So this whoooole thing, this whoooooole fucking thing is essentially a "Dad said I could have this." - "Nuh uh, Dad said only I could have this." argument?
#42
Quote by CoreysMonster
Wait.

So this whoooole thing, this whoooooole fucking thing is essentially a "Dad said I could have this." - "Nuh uh, Dad said only I could have this." argument?


yeah, but both dads are made up.
sometimes I see us in a cymbal splash or in the sound of a car crash
#43
lol
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#44
Quote by CoreysMonster
Wait.

So this whoooole thing, this whoooooole fucking thing is essentially a "Dad said I could have this." - "Nuh uh, Dad said only I could have this." argument?

Pretty much.
#45
Quote by CoreysMonster
Wait.

So this whoooole thing, this whoooooole fucking thing is essentially a "Dad said I could have this." - "Nuh uh, Dad said only I could have this." argument?


That's one way of looking at it. At the moment I'd say it's also a lot of ''Your dad killed my dad.'' ''No your dad killed my dad.'' With actual dads. I think a big part of it isn't really religiously based anymore.
And what is more, there's been a bloody purple nose and some bloody purple clothes that were messing up the lobby floor. It's just apartment house rules so all you 'partment fools remember : one man's ceiling is another man's floor.
#46
Quote by Mister.Y
That's one way of looking at it. At the moment I'd say it's also a lot of ''Your dad killed my dad.'' ''No your dad killed my dad.'' With actual dads. I think a big part of it isn't really religiously based anymore.

Also true, it's become as much of a cultural conflict as a religious one.
#47
Probably better than Syria losing control of those weapons or being allowed to use them. I thought bombing chemical weapons depots was a bad idea?
#48
Quote by gabcd86
Probably better than Syria losing control of those weapons or being allowed to use them. I thought bombing chemical weapons depots was a bad idea?
Not if it's only the enemy's women who will be giving birth to two-headed babies.
You who build these altars now

To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore
#49
The only thing more volatile than this situation is this thread...
BOOM-SHAKALAKALAKA-BOOM-SHAKALAKUNGA
#50
Quote by IMABBALLPLAYER
I think we should just pull out of the middle east right now. It's such a lost cause.

I agree. Seems like everyone in the middle east are school children fighting over toys in a sand box.

I say. Pull out, and let the children fight.
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In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.
#51
Quote by Alucard817
I agree. Seems like everyone in the middle east are school children fighting over toys in a sand box.

I say. Pull out, and let the children fight.

Yeah, it's not like last time we let them fight there was a genocide or anything.

Fucking listen to yourselves you idiots.
#52
Quote by willT08
Yeah, it's not like last time we let them fight there was a genocide or anything.

Fucking listen to yourselves you idiots.


Wow...just...wow. You call me an idiot, yet you sound like you're having a tantrum.
Yeah and who cleaned up the mess? WE DID.

Do you realize that if there is a war with Israel the US will possibly get dragged into it?
Do you also realize that the US has tried for years to stabilize the region?

Many of us are sick of it. If they wanna kill each other then let them.
Better yet maybe another country can baby sit over there for a bit and let us take a nap.
Quote by FatalGear41
In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.
Last edited by Alucard817 at Jan 31, 2013,
#53
BEWARE THE BANANA ARMY.

I SAY, I SAY, BEWARE THE BANANA ARMY.

They say when they finally attack, all the impostors will peel themselves. In order to tell if you have been assimilated, check for a zipper somewhere near your pelvis.


#54
Quote by Alucard817
Wow...just...wow. You call me an idiot, yet you sound like you're having a tantrum.
Yeah and who cleaned up the mess? WE DID.
A nation state was wiped off the map, a genocide happened and land was poisoned with chemical weapons. We didn't do nearly enough, I don't care what we did afterwards. None of that should have happened.

Do you realize that if there is a war with Israel the US will possibly get dragged into it?
Do you also realize that the US has tried for years to stabilize the region?
No, I haven't watched the news since 1945.

Many of us are sick of it. If they wanna kill each other then let them.
I now don't care about anything you ever say again.
#56
Quote by Diamond Dave
^I get your point, but the US aren't the ****ing world police and which side do you pick when both are a bunch of ****ing ******s who are as bad as each other?
The people's side. This isn't about the US or any other country acting like a police officer, this is about innocent people who need help from those who can spare it.
You who build these altars now

To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore
#57
Quote by willT08
A nation state was wiped off the map, a genocide happened and land was poisoned with chemical weapons. We didn't do nearly enough, I don't care what we did afterwards. None of that should have happened.

You're right it should never have happened, but it did. I could be wrong but I don't remember anyone else trying to stop it either.
Quote by willT08
I now don't care about anything you ever say again.

Many of the Governments over there act like they don't want peace. I think it's time to just let them go. As IMABBALLPLAYER said. They're a lost cause.
Quote by Diamond Dave
^I get your point, but the US aren't the ****ing world police and which side do you pick when both are a bunch of ****ing ******s who are as bad as each other?

I really wish that were the case. The U.S. may not be the world police, but it certainly seems like were it's baby sitter sometimes.
We have more troops and bases over there than most of Western Europe combined.

Funny enough though if we decide to get involved were busy bodies and sticking our noses in other peoples business. If we do nothing then were cold heartless bastards who should have stepped in.

In other words, were condemned for our actions, and condemned for our inaction. Regardless what we decide you are still going to blame us.
Quote by FatalGear41
In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.
#58
Quote by Alucard817
If we do nothing then were cold heartless bastards who should have stepped in.
I call bullshit. Nobody would have blamed you if you wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan. Nobody would have blamed you if you wouldn't have invaded Iraq.

Nobody is asking the US to act as a police officer, we've got the UN for that.
You who build these altars now

To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore
Last edited by the bartender at Jan 31, 2013,
#59
Quote by Alucard817

Many of us are sick of it. If they wanna kill each other then let them.
Better yet maybe another country can baby sit over there for a bit and let us take a nap.


Dabbling in foreign affairs for 200+ years and being partly to blame for the situation at hand in the current region ->
Is now tired of the situation and does not want to continue caring about people killing each other.
sometimes I see us in a cymbal splash or in the sound of a car crash
Last edited by JohnnyGenzale at Jan 31, 2013,
#61
I had just typed out some long winded probably cliche post about why do we do the things we do and how all people need to realize we are human and that we are sacred etc.

I hit backspace and said **** it. How about a different message?

**** the middle east, america , England, the UN ,Obama , The Queen , Fox News , and any grimy slimy piece of shit in their ranks who sleeps well knowing their ridiclous actions only lead to pain and suffering.

Screw all you asshats running our peoples into the dirt. I dont even believe in religion but id be happy to be wrong so long as there actually was a pit of fire for you mother****ers to spend eternity in.

**** all you religious nuts dividing people and fueling unnecessary boundaries between people who might otherwise get along. **** any who would claim themselves correct and another believer of something different wrong when only death provides the answer.

**** all you propaganda spitting,sensationalist tactic using, word twisting, people inciting new anchors on these major news programs pushing you shitty government and voting driven agendas.

Does that cover everyone? Sorry for the rant. Well not really.
Knowledge is power
#63
Quote by Mister.Y
Gee, because all of the things before 1945 are probably irrelevant to the situation.

Just saying ''Arabs started it'' in a point in time as arbitrary as 1947 in a history that goes way beyond 1945 does not make any sense.

Most of the conflicts involving Israel in the 20th and 21st century resulted directly from events that occurred from the 1920s onward, when the British were running Palestine as a protectorate and many Jews immigrated to Israel.
#64
Quote by willT08
Yeah, it's not like last time we let them fight there was a genocide or anything.

Fucking listen to yourselves you idiots.


If it takes another genocide to resolve this, so be it. Both sides know there's currently a limit as to what they can do to one another before Western intervention. Withdraw all support and state upfront there will be no assistance. Both sides will go extinct over an ancient conflict or they'll be forced to compromise. Or we can enforce the status quo for generations to come.
#65
Quote by zdh
If it takes another genocide to resolve this, so be it.

I didn't read the rest because you're a bad person.
#67
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Most of the conflicts involving Israel in the 20th and 21st century resulted directly from events that occurred from the 1920s onward, when the British were running Palestine as a protectorate and many Jews immigrated to Israel.


Oh, now it's the 1920s?

The very question of 'who started it?' has little importance anymore. For example, let's take the battle of Tel Hai as a starting point, argued by some as the first armed conflict between the Arabs and Jews. The Arabs were the aggressors. Five Arabs and six Jews were killed. Does that justify the declaring of a Jewish state after WWII, occupying a lot more Palestinian territory than the partition plan accounted for? Was the partition plan itself not Zionist, 'taking' land from the Palestinians?

Both have blood on their hands, both have a responsibility when it comes to trying to put a stop to it. Personally, I despise nationalism in any form or shape. Palestinians however, seem to be getting the short end of the stick the last several decades and America's (and other countries') backing of Israel appears to have more basis in politics than humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#Fatalities_1948.E2.80.932011
And what is more, there's been a bloody purple nose and some bloody purple clothes that were messing up the lobby floor. It's just apartment house rules so all you 'partment fools remember : one man's ceiling is another man's floor.
Last edited by Mister.Y at Jan 31, 2013,
#68
I like how Hezbollah are pretending to be all diplomatic about this situation.

In a statement, Hezbollah condemned the attack as "barbaric aggression", saying it "expresses full solidarity with Syria's command, army and people."


...Stapling helium to penguins since 1949.
#69
Quote by Mister.Y
Oh, now it's the 1920s?

The very question of 'who started it?' is of little importance anymore. For example, let's take the battle of Tel Hai as a starting point, argued by some as the first armed conflict between the Arabs and Jews. The Arabs were the aggressors. Five Arabs and six Jews were killed. Does that justify the declaring of a Jewish state after WWII, occupying a lot more Palestinian territory than the partition plan accounted for? Was the partition plan itself not Zionist, 'taking' land from the Palestinians?

Both have blood on their hands, both have a responsibility when it comes to trying to put a stop to it. Personally, I despise nationalism in any form or shape. Palestinians however, seem to be getting the short end of the stick the last several decades and America's (and other countries') backing of Israel appears to have more basis in politics than humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#Fatalities_1948.E2.80.932011


Yup. Its like 2 kids fighting in the backseat of a car. One pinches the other then the pinched flicks the pincher's ear then the the cycle escalates. Unfortunately the rest of the world has to play parent to pull the car over and hand out a few whoopins.
Knowledge is power
#70
Quote by Mister.Y
Oh, now it's the 1920s?

The very question of 'who started it?' has little importance anymore. For example, let's take the battle of Tel Hai as a starting point, argued by some as the first armed conflict between the Arabs and Jews. The Arabs were the aggressors. Five Arabs and six Jews were killed. Does that justify the declaring of a Jewish state after WWII, occupying a lot more Palestinian territory than the partition plan accounted for? Was the partition plan itself not Zionist, 'taking' land from the Palestinians?

What makes you think that it can all be boiled down to "was it justified"?
#71
In a statement, Hezbollah condemned the attack as "barbaric aggression", saying it "expresses full solidarity with Syria's command, army and people."



Quote by Todd Hart
I like how Hezbollah are pretending to be all diplomatic about this situation.


I guess firing off rockets into Israel without knowing where they will land or who they will kill is considered "civilized". How do you do?
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#72
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
What makes you think that it can all be boiled down to "was it justified"?


I've no idea how that is what you got out of my post. I think civilian (and children's) deaths either way aren't justified. I don't think it boils down to that. I don't think any of the violence is justified.

You implied it in your posts. When you say ''the Arabs terrorist groups started it all'' (earlier post), you suggest Isreal is just in its violence against Palestine.

I've made my point clear enough now.
And what is more, there's been a bloody purple nose and some bloody purple clothes that were messing up the lobby floor. It's just apartment house rules so all you 'partment fools remember : one man's ceiling is another man's floor.
#73
Quote by Mister.Y
I've no idea how that is what you got out of my post. I think civilian (and children's) deaths either way aren't justified. I don't think any of the violence is justified. I don't think it boils down to that, I'm saying it is irrelevant.

You implied it in your posts. When you say ''the Arabs terrorist groups started it all'' (earlier post), you suggest Isreal is just in its violence against Palestine.

How did I suggest this? All I suggested was that Israel has every right to defend itself. (Likewise, Palestinians have every right to defend themselves.) But the main point I was making was that Israel has NOT responded with aggressive force, unless sorely provoked. Examine most of the wars Israel has fought in in the last 70 years.

Quote by Jostry
I guess firing off rockets into Israel without knowing where they will land or who they will kill is considered "civilized". How do you do?

This is actually an example of Israel being sorely provoked before responding.
Last edited by crazysam23_Atax at Jan 31, 2013,
#74
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
How did I suggest this? All I suggested was that Israel has every right to defend itself. Likewise, Palestinians have every right to defend themselves. But the main point I was making was that Israel has NOT responded with aggressive force, unless sorely provoked. Examine most of the wars Israel has fought in in the last 70 years.


This is actually an example of Israel being sorely provoked before responding.


Exactly, can't people see that that entire region hates them because of a stupid piece of land that their "God" promised them? (and because of a stupid religious difference, if you're not Islamic, you're an enemy mentality). I think Israel responded appropriately.

And shit, look at a world map, Israel is a minuscule dot compared to every other country in that region, wtf do you want them do? Just let them get attacked?
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#75
Quote by Jostry
Exactly, can't people see that that entire region hates them because of a stupid piece of land that their "God" promised them? (and because of a stupid religious difference, if you're not Islamic, you're an enemy mentality).

You realize all of this applies equally to the Jews?
#76
So much stupid in this thread.
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#77
Quote by Jostry
Exactly, can't people see that that entire region hates them because of a stupid piece of land that their "God" promised them? (and because of a stupid religious difference, if you're not Islamic, you're an enemy mentality). I think Israel responded appropriately.

And shit, look at a world map, Israel is a minuscule dot compared to every other country in that region, wtf do you want them do? Just let them get attacked?

This. All of this.

The Arabs have 95% of the ME, can't the Jews have that tiny slab of land they have and be left alone? Now, I doubt the Arabs will ever do leave them alone, but...one can hope.

Quote by willT08
You realize all of this applies equally to the Jews?

Most Jews wouldn't see it that way. Conversely, many Muslims would see it that way.

Edit:
I've never heard of a Jewish Rabbi* who says that everyone who isn't Jewish is their enemy. I have heard of many Muslims Imams who say that if one isn't Muslim, then they must be converted or die.

*I'm sure that there are a few Jews who say all non-Jews are the enemy, but they're not within the teachings of the Torah if they say that.
Last edited by crazysam23_Atax at Jan 31, 2013,
#78
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
This. All of this.

The Arabs have 95% of the ME, can't the Jews have that tiny slab of land they have and be left alone? Now, I doubt the Arabs will ever do leave them alone, but...one can hope.
If there's one thing Israel is good for, it's not taking land they shouldn't have.

Most Jews wouldn't see it that way. Conversely, many Muslims would see it that way.

Wouldn't see what which way? I don't know what you're trying to say here.
#79
Quote by willT08
If there's one thing Israel is good for, it's not taking land they shouldn't have.

If you say so...

Most Jews/Israelis have as much right to that land to any Arab/Muslim.

Wouldn't see what which way? I don't know what you're trying to say here.

See my edit above. I clarified a bit. I apologize for it being unclear beforehand.
#80
Good for Israel. Syria is a pile of shit right now
My God, it's full of stars!