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Moon1n1te
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So some of you might remember my thread on buying a new guitar, think im gonna go for the vintage v100 in white and spend the left over money on a half stack.

I think im gonna go for the harley benton g212 vintage cab.

so that just leaves the head.

was thinking of bugera 6262 head .as their going cheap on thomann.
Or buying something on part credit and getting something like the laney ironheart.

I had the bugera combo but the it sound a bit buzzy and muddy though there was a good tone in their ( stock bugera speakers suck should sound better with celestions?)

never tried the ironheart though but heard goo things.

Not gigging atm but hope to in the near future once my band gets a new drummer.

thanks for looking guys.
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Budget? Location? New or used? Location?

What sound are you going for?

I'd shy away from Burgera, but that's just me.
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Bugera's are scary for durability. How cheap exactly? Used 6505 heads can be had for under 500
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budget 400 (600 credit), Scotland,new or used, rise against mcr , bfmv,a7x architecs etc

burgera is like 275.
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Not sure about prices but a Peavey JSX combo will cover most of that, put a boost like a Tubescreamer in front of it and you can nail the BFMV stuff
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At least if you can get it for 275 you'll have money left over for a good fire extinguisher.


Try to find an old 5150/6505.
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Aside from bfmv, those bands sound more on the marshall side to me.
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Maybe a Laney GH50?
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thanks for the replys. i liked my ol 6262 combo think the ton had alother of potential.

would rather get a head + cab as i know some clubs that provide cabs for use.

yea the laneys iv seen have been spoke highly of. thanks again and keep em coming .
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Don't get the Bugera. They have terrible quality in general. What you save (in terms of money) on the original price tag will later be invested at an amp tech, because you'll have your amp in the shop constantly.

If you like the 6262, then a Peavey 5150/6505 will be a MUCH better choice. The 6262 is a clone of the 5150/6505. Other great options would be:

Peavey Vypyr Tube 60
Peavey JSX
Peavey XXX
Marshal DSL401
Jet City JCA50

Seriously, though, Bugera couldn't even take presentable amps to a Muisc Merchant's expo where they're trying to get new distributors. They have terrible quality.
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I really wanted the vypyr tube head but I couldn't find any did the stop making them??

thanks for the input
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I have a Laney GH100L myself, and let me tell you, that thing is brutal, but very raw in the ears of many. You might want to try one for yourself to see if it fits your style, or get an EQ of some kind.

I actually recommend it, just letting you know the facts.
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What do you guys think of the ID series by blackstar, there not tube but the soundclips iv heard sound really good
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What do you guys think of the ID series by blackstar, there not tube but the soundclips iv heard sound really good

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Quote by Moon1n1te
whats the problem with them??

I don't like Blackstars buisness practices.
IMO I would rather buy the Bugera 6260/6262 than that Blackstar

You should deff check out a used Laney GH50/100/100TI(tony Iomy) and If you need a clean ch look at the Laney VH100 (2ch version of the GH amps). Used they run about the same price.
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Whats wrong with their business practices??, Yea id defo look second hand but it just kinda depends whats out their at the time. I do like the bugera i had but as i mentioned before the tone was a bit scratchy and lacking clarity but that could have been the stock speakers and I also worry about the build quality of them.
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Quote by Moon1n1te
Whats wrong with their business practices??, Yea id defo look second hand but it just kinda depends whats out their at the time. I do like the bugera i had but as i mentioned before the tone was a bit scratchy and lacking clarity but that could have been the stock speakers and I also worry about the build quality of them.

Yeah Bugera is very hit or miss with qualiy. I have a 333 head and it has worked for me for over 3 yrs. It has not been used for almost a yr though. I'm one of the lucky ones.

Yeah deff ty used, you will get a much better amp for your money.
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I will do, do you think the 6262 will sound better with a cab fitted with celestion than it did with the bugera speakers in the combo or is it just a problem with the amp that makes it sound a bit woolen?? Thanks for your input much appreciated.
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I have a buddy that uses a Bugera 6260 and a mesa cab and it sounds really good.
This was recorded with his amp stock (he's the lead guitarist) and the other guitarist is using an H&K Tri-Amp and Mesa cab.
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Your buddy's band is pretty good like and yea there is nothing wrong with that tone at all. Its deinfetly an strong option. hiowsyour 333?? Also is it worth paying the extra for the infium or whatever it is they have now?? Cheers
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Quote by Moon1n1te
Your buddy's band is pretty good like and yea there is nothing wrong with that tone at all. Its deinfetly an strong option. hiowsyour 333?? Also is it worth paying the extra for the infium or whatever it is they have now?? Cheers

I actually bought my 333 because my main amp at the time broke down. I paid $425 brand new for it. It is a pretty nice sounding amp, but it is on the bright side. It has pretty good cleans, the crunch ch is really nice very marshally. I hardly ever used the lead ch, I just was not a big fan of it. FX loop is pretty good also and it is foot switchable, works as a boost if you don't use the FX loop

I have heard very few reviews of the new infinium series, but the few I have heard have not been good.
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Thomann have taken down the normal 6262 and only have the infium now. Bad Patter
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Have you thought about a Jet City JCA50/100/100hdm?
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If you keep your eye out you might be able to snag and Orange Rocker 30? They're fairly awesome and IIRC they'd do everything except maybe the BMFV without a boost. Stick a tubescreamer of some kind in front of it and it'll do everything you want.
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Quote by Moon1n1te
budget 400 (600 credit), Scotland,new or used, rise against mcr , bfmv,a7x architecs etc

burgera is like 275.

I'd go 6505 or 5150 for that.

Not to tell you your own business, but I'd really avoid paying credit for anything that didn't fully require it, especially something for a hobby.
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I dont mind paying finance aslong as i know i can pay it back sometimes its better to do that than pay everything in one but I know what you mean.
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Also are there any NON TUBE amps anybody would suggest, I like tubes but they can be a hassle and if I can get something with a good tone thats not tube thats a + in my book .
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there issnt alot of good metal tones to be had without tubes. unless you find a dimeish randall or something like that.
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I have seen a few randalls kicking about like the Randall 1503 head, guess im heading into want everything for nothing territory but at the same time I dont wanna spend a ridiculous amount of money when im not a tone head. I like a good tone but i dont like getting to caught up in it at the same time if that makes any sense??
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it doesnt make any sense. get the tube amp. you wont be satified with anything else.
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Aye fair point, though i do like hybrid modellers
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Quote by Robbgnarly
I don't like Blackstars buisness practices.
IMO I would rather buy the Bugera 6260/6262 than that Blackstar

You should deff check out a used Laney GH50/100/100TI(tony Iomy) and If you need a clean ch look at the Laney VH100 (2ch version of the GH amps). Used they run about the same price.
Just to clarify, the GH100TI isn't like other GH's. It has extra gain stages and is far more brutal.
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Someone i know is selling a b-52 for £300. Good Deal??
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Quote by Moon1n1te
Whats wrong with their business practices??, Yea id defo look second hand but it just kinda depends whats out their at the time. I do like the bugera i had but as i mentioned before the tone was a bit scratchy and lacking clarity but that could have been the stock speakers and I also worry about the build quality of them.



Giving people wrong impression about their amps (*edit* lower models on HT serie that is) being all tube when they are hybrids and lately some other things. Though if that was a blatant lie/intentional misleading or just misunderstanding due to fancy marketing speech, I have no idea. People have been defending both POVs left and right.

I say make your own opinion based on what they sound like, and not give a damn if someone else does not like their business practices. Though if you agree with him, thats a different story. I personally dont give a damn if its tube, SS or hybrid nor what marketing tools spout out of their mouths, only thing I care how the amp is built and how it sounds. And so far the couple of Blackstar I've heard personally have been quite impressive for their price as far as high gain is concerned.

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