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#42
This guy wasn't just a hero because of his sniper kills, the guy was working with other former soldiers that had PTSD, trying to make a difference in people's lives. And whoever said he was a bad writer, so what, he's a solider by trade not a writer. RIP
#43
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#45
I really feel bad for these guys' families.

Also, I don't understand all the #KarmaIsABitch shit on Twitter... like what the hell, people?
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#46
Hey man, live by the sword, die by the sword. In my eyes it's more of a shame that he didn't die in combat.

I don't know. That's just my mentality, if I'm gonna live by the sword, or in today's case, living by the gun, then I'd rather die in a hail of bullets firing at full pin while screaming with bloody fury at my enemy.
#47
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I really feel bad for these guys' families.

Also, I don't understand all the #KarmaIsABitch shit on Twitter... like what the hell, people?


Disagree with the war all you want, but leave the soldiers out of it. They are only doing their job.

As a sniper he is probably directly responsible for saving plenty of lives by taking a few. Take a life to save many.
#48
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They are only doing their job.


A job they chose to do. This isn't the result of a draft or conscription, but people who know exactly what they're going to be doing and choose to do so. They are 100% responsible for their actions, just as any person is. One is not exempt because they have a boss.
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#49
This really isn't a war debate thread. A man died.
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#50
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This really isn't a war debate thread. A man died.


Who is debating war?
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#51
Thought this was Chris Pratt from Parks & Recreation for a second. Phew.
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#52
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Thought this was Chris Pratt from Parks & Recreation for a second. Phew.


He was better in The OC.
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#53
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Disagree with the war all you want, but leave the soldiers out of it. They are only doing their job.

As a sniper he is probably directly responsible for saving plenty of lives by taking a few. Take a life to save many.

Oh I agree.
This ends now, eat the goddamn beans!
#54
It is a shame. I may not agree with war but he did his duty far better than most, especially after he retired. And snipers are awesome. R.I.P and condolences to his family.
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#59
Holy shit man. I just saw that guy on the O Rielly Factor like 3 weeks ago. He was talking about his book. That's soooooooo messed up. wtf man...
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#61
This is going to sound really corny, but I think the sad thing is that people like him (soldiers), and the firefighters and police officers and paramedics are never recognized as heroes until they die or do something like write a book (and sometimes they are even hated), while celebrities are viewed as gods/goddesses. It's just sickening to me.
This man was a war hero. He gave his life for the United States to serve our country as a soldier, and then beyond that to help other soldiers that were suffering. This is very sad news.
#62
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This is going to sound really corny, but I think the sad thing is that people like him (soldiers), and the firefighters and police officers and paramedics are never recognized as heroes until they die or do something like write a book (and sometimes they are even hated), while celebrities are viewed as gods/goddesses. It's just sickening to me.
This man was a war hero. He gave his life for the United States to serve our country as a soldier, and then beyond that to help other soldiers that were suffering. This is very sad news.


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#63
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This is going to sound really corny, but I think the sad thing is that people like him (soldiers), and the firefighters and police officers and paramedics are never recognized as heroes until they die or do something like write a book (and sometimes they are even hated), while celebrities are viewed as gods/goddesses. It's just sickening to me.
This man was a war hero. He gave his life for the United States to serve our country as a soldier, and then beyond that to help other soldiers that were suffering. This is very sad news.

Paramedics and firefighters get respect from the non-**** section of society, usually.

It's only really police and soldiers that people have a problem with. And given their tasks and the history surrounding the roles, can you blame people?
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#65
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It's only really police and soldiers that people have a problem with. And given their tasks and the history surrounding the roles, can you blame people?


Yes.
#66
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Paramedics and firefighters get respect from the non-**** section of society, usually.

It's only really police and soldiers that people have a problem with. And given their tasks and the history surrounding the roles, can you blame people?

Yea that's true (in response to the first part).
I can see why people would have a problem with police officers in some cases, but whenever I ask someone who hates cops "Do you want to live in a world where there aren't police officers?" They can't give me a straight (or sensible) answer. It's either "Yes" (which is obviously ridiculous) or "No, but i don't want them to abuse their power", which is always going to happen. Psychopaths or just assholes are always going to gravitate to professions that give them power. But you can't judge the majority by actions of the minority.

As for soldiers, I don't understand hate for them at all. They are one of the few professions that I respect over any other. Maybe my emotions skews my opinion of it a little bit, but anyone who is willing to risk their life for my country is a hero in my book.
None of this is directed at you, it's just kinda rants about stuff in response to your post.
#67
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He had the highest K/D ratio ever recorded.


son of a bitch stole my line.

on a serious note, RIP.
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#68
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As for soldiers, I don't understand hate for them at all. They are one of the few professions that I respect over any other. Maybe my emotions skews my opinion of it a little bit, but anyone who is willing to risk their life for my country is a hero in my book.
None of this is directed at you, it's just kinda rants about stuff in response to your post.


I see that sentiment as jingoistic garbage. If they hadn't served, nothing would have been any different here.
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#69
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I see that sentiment as jingoistic garbage. If they hadn't served, nothing would have been any different here.

If they hadn't served, there would have been a draft.
Also, do you think it's a bad thing to fight people who send women to jail for being raped, or publicly stone teenagers who listen to metal, or put IEDs in schools, who use women and children as meat shields, and who attack us and other countries and kill thousands of civilians?
#70
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If they hadn't served, there would have been a draft.
Also, do you think it's a bad thing to fight people who send women to jail for being raped, or publicly stone teenagers who listen to metal, or put IEDs in schools, who use women and children as meat shields, and who attack us and other countries and kill thousands of civilians?


It is none of our concern what other countries do and what their societies find acceptable. If you're going to use that rationale, then you best be supporting 50+ wars right now.

Then again, terrorism against the United States is directly related to former American foreign policy. It wasn't for some irrational reason, there were clear objectives that were sought as a result of previous American involvement.

Once again, I have little interest in jingoistic garbage.
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#71
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It is none of our concern what other countries do and what their societies find acceptable. If you're going to use that rationale, then you best be supporting 50+ wars right now.

Then again, terrorism against the United States is directly related to former American foreign policy. It wasn't for some irrational reason, there were clear objectives that were sought as a result of previous American involvement.

Once again, I have little interest in jingoistic garbage.

It is our concern. It is every human beings concern. The United States is the only country with the balls to actually do something about it.
And i could care less about our foreign policy. We were not killing innocent people. We launched no attacks. They attacked us first, the fact that you sympathize with religious zealots over thousand of innocent lives everywhere in the world speaks a lot about your character and morals as a person.
I don't think war is a good thing, but I do think it is necessary. This is a case where I think that it is necessary. And if you want to deny that then you should look at the world again and see what's going on in it.
#72
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It is our concern. It is every human beings concern. The United States is the only country with the balls to actually do something about it.
And i could care less about our foreign policy. We were not killing innocent people. We launched no attacks. They attacked us first, the fact that you sympathize with religious zealots over thousand of innocent lives everywhere in the world speaks a lot about your character and morals as a person.
I don't think war is a good thing, but I do think it is necessary. This is a case where I think that it is necessary. And if you want to deny that then you should look at the world again and see what's going on in it.


If you think it's that necessary, you should go fight in the conflict yourself. As much as I believe in what I do, I don't think it's my position to argue for someone else to go fight and possibly die for my cause. Only I should be able to do that.
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#73
What the **** is with all the trolling? The two guys killed were heroes, not just for what they did while deployed but for what they did when they got back. Excluding service members, No one on this board has even come close to proving that they are half the man these guys were. Myself included.

RIP.


I've made like 1 post in the last 2 months and this needed to be said.
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#74
yeah mac I agree. Those iraqi kids are getting leukemia and various forms cancer from depleted uranium rounds for their own good. They are being liberated by their defects and tumors.
#75
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but anyone who is willing to risk their life for my country is a hero in my book.


Yea but when your country is doing stupid things around the world I can only say "You signed up for that? lol"
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#76
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If you think it's that necessary, you should go fight in the conflict yourself. As much as I believe in what I do, I don't think it's my position to argue for someone else to go fight and possibly die for my cause. Only I should be able to do that.

I am planning on enlisting, I agree with you it isn't right to do that.

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yeah mac I agree. Those iraqi kids are getting leukemia and various forms cancer from depleted uranium rounds for their own good. They are being liberated by their defects and tumors.

The mission is to eliminant the dictators, train the military and establish a democracy, and then they can take care of themselves. As much as i hate to admit it, the United States won against Great Britain with the help of France. An oppressed people need help to stop being oppressed.
#77
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The mission is to eliminant the dictators, train the military and establish a democracy, and then they can take care of themselves. As much as i hate to admit it, the United States won against Great Britain with the help of France. An oppressed people need help to stop being oppressed.


I agree with you that it's the military's job to kill, destroy, and ruin. It's our shameful purpose. However, in my opinion that is all a military should be used for; it should never be used to "nation-build" or anything of the sort. It sends mixed messages, confounds its more important purpose (kill and cause mayhem), and weakens it overall.
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#78
And the best medium for freedom is cancerous tumours, right?

what you don't seem to understand is that children born in Iraq will have TUMOURS GROWING OUT OF THEIR ****ING FACES for the rest of humanity's foreseeable future. (half life of at least 700 million years)


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#79
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Yea but when your country is doing stupid things around the world I can only say "You signed up for that? lol"

Or you can recognize that that person, regardless of what politicians and leaders do, has made the sacrifice that is a life in the military, has willingly gone into a situation where he may be injured, scarred mentally or physically, maimed, or killed, in service to his country and the citizens thereof. And then, having recognized the sacrifices that that guy made, you could thank and respect him.

My cousin AJ will never be able to lift his right arm above his head or lift more than 60 pounds again because of injuries he sustained in Afganistan when his convoy was ambushed. He volunteered the week after 9/11, his military service shattered his marriage, he suffers from flashbacks a few times a month, in service of his country. Just an anecdote, but I don't believe you're a rational thinking person if you don't recognize and respect such sacrifice.
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#80
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Or you can recognize that that person, regardless of what politicians and leaders do, has made the sacrifice that is a life in the military, has willingly gone into a situation where he may be injured, scarred mentally or physically, maimed, or killed, in service to his country and the citizens thereof. And then, having recognized the sacrifices that that guy made, you could thank and respect him.

My cousin AJ will never be able to lift his right arm above his head or lift more than 60 pounds again because of injuries he sustained in Afganistan when his convoy was ambushed. He volunteered the week after 9/11, his military service shattered his marriage, he suffers from flashbacks a few times a month, in service of his country. Just an anecdote, but I don't believe you're a rational thinking person if you don't recognize and respect such sacrifice.

People don't seem to have respect for anything anymore.