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Budget? - £500-£750.

Genres? - Will be mainly using it as a 'road' amp for the remainder of the year, playing mostly clean stuff (90's hits and pop such as Nicki Minaj, Carlie Rae Jepson or whatever her name is), but will also be playing blues and rock at home a la SRV, Clapton, Pink Floyd i know I'll need effects for this, so Gilmour tone isn't stressed upon), Aerosmith and Slash.

New or Used? - New would be preferable as I can get a warranty and claim it as a business expense.

Home or Gig? - Listed above, will be played for 2 gigs a week and sitting in a van/storage for the rest of the time, I have the ability to mic up for alrger venues and would like it to be usable at bedroom levels. Looking at combos for easier travel.

Closest City? - Telford/West Midlands UK. B'ham's the clsoest major city.

Current Gear? - Fender MIM strat and an Epiphone LP, upgrading to a Gibson traditional in May.

Already looked at a Blackstar HT-club 40 and a Fender Blues Deluxe, just wondering if you guys would reccomend anything else, and which of those 2 would be best suited.
Gear:

Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
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Addonexus408
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#2
Look into the Egnater Tweeker 40 combo might be right up your ally, also check out a Line 6 DT-25. The DT-25 can pretty much cover all the tones you want and more. Look up some of the demos on youtube or try it out if you get the chance. I had a chance to play one a couple of months ago and i loved it, insane amount of versatility.

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Look for a used Marshall JCM2000 DSL401c. It is a 1x12 combo and has good cleans and will do the slash/Gilmore easy.

Actually Gilmore used the JCM2000 DSL100 for his amp for several yrs.
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Yeah a friend reccomended the DSL401C, but I just don't know if it will handle the cleans well enough.

I can't really find egnaters around these parts.
Gear:

Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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Quote by ProphetToJables
Yeah a friend reccomended the DSL401C, but I just don't know if it will handle the cleans well enough.

I can't really find egnaters around these parts.

I have the head version DSL100 and it has really good cleans, not fender or Vox, but good.
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Yeah that's what I hear, good cleans but no vox/fender. I plan on using a great clean channel as starting point for any pedals. Really liking the Blackstar HT-club 40, anyone got any experience?
Gear:

Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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Quote by ProphetToJables
Yeah that's what I hear, good cleans but no vox/fender. I plan on using a great clean channel as starting point for any pedals. Really liking the Blackstar HT-club 40, anyone got any experience?

If want good cleans, go Fender Twin/Deluxe or Vox AC30. I don't like the HT series from Blackstar at all
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#8
If you're playing a good variety of stuff and none of it is really chuggy/metal etc, the Line 6 DT50/25 would actually be a pretty good choice. +1 to that.

The Peavey Vypyr Tube is also with looking at. If you can find one, three Lone 6 Vetta II or the HD147 are also worth looking at. I think the Vypyr is better tonally, but the L6s have the advantage of being more flexible and more durable, all around more "professional". So there's a bit of a trade off, unfortunately.

Modelers in general are highly worth considering of you're doing covers - not necessarily to imitate the tone 100%, but just to have the sheer ability to get a good sound for what you're doing. In comparison, most average straight in amps really aren't versatile at all. While they can sound very good, you have to be able to be happy with that sound. Just make sure if you go that route, get a GOOD modeler like any I've mentioned. No entry level crap.

You could also save up for a Mesa Mark V. That'll really do the trick. Great amp for versatility, without being a modeler (as I understand some people just do not want a modeling amp).
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for what it's worth I think fenders are the best gigging amps you can get. you won't use high gain in GB work. a vox ac30 wouldn't be a bad choice either, but I still think a fender twin or deluxe or any of them really. most of the time a gigging amp is based around a clean channel, i suppose it could be based on what is in your set, but it's 9 times out of 10 nothing that some OD pedals can't handle. you've stated you need a good clean channel to base off of and then go from there, by definition thats a fender amp.
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I would recommend the marshal MG100

Very versatile and quality sound. It should treat you well
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Vox's are a great choice for other people, unfortunately theyre really just not the tone I hear in my head. Haven't really considered Line6 or Peavey, didn't really think they were suited to what I wanted (especially the Line6 I started out with... you know which one.)

A Mesa Mark V would be great but I need the amp sooner reather than alter and would be wary about keeping a Mesa on the road for 10 months (the amp I choose will be stored in a seperate town from me). Plus I would hate having it and not being able to use it.

If I could get a twin '65 I would in a heartbeat but its a bit over budget
Gear:

Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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Quote by ProphetToJables


If I could get a twin '65 I would in a heartbeat but its a bit over budget


Look around for silverface amps, I got my SF twin in your budget
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Quote by CaptainAmerican
I would recommend the marshal MG100

Very versatile and quality sound. It should treat you well
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#12
Trust me, the spider series is what gives Line 6 a bad name. Everything else is pretty decent, especially the DT series. Look up some tones of the amp on the youtubes, read reviews ect. you might like it.
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^It's not that I don't think a lot of their stuff is reliable, but their DT25 is £666, and thats really more than I would like to pay for something that might not be qhat I'm looking for. I think the Fender BDR is the amp I'll go with, it's the most vintage orientated amp I've seen and has the best cleans. I'll go try out a few though, thanks guys.
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Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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#14
I use a Blackstar HT100, I love the thing. You'll need an OD for lower gain levels and to tighten up the OD channels though, but a TS808 or the like sorts it out easy enough. And it has an emulated output, so if I need to travel light I can just take the head and DI through the venue's PA. Doesn't sound as good but it's better than having to drag a 2x12/4x12 around .

Hard to get bedroom tones out of something this size though. I don't know how the HT40 would do at low volumes, but your best bet is to get down to Dawsons and try one out. If you like it then hit the interwebs and save yourself some money.
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I plan to store buy as I have a mega tonne of odds and ends to trade in. I'm wondering if the HT100 and club 40 are entirely different beasts, I'll have to try 'em out.
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Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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Ahh, makes sense then, I tested the HT60 combos before buying the HT100 secondhand, They sounded very similar and I guess the difference I hear is coming from the differing speakers.
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The 60 looks nice but is F****** huge!
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Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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#18
Quote by ProphetToJables
Yeah a friend reccomended the DSL401C, but I just don't know if it will handle the cleans well enough.

I can't really find egnaters around these parts.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/egnater_tweaker_40_112_b_stock.htm
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I've had a few issues with Thomann, and would be a bit hesitant ordering anything B-stock from them.
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Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
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I only ever order B-Stock from them, and both thier customer service, and dealings with me as a tech, have been excellent
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I've had a few of their T Bone brand items break down on me only to be shipped back and forth with no fixes whatsoever. Also Bugeras, but thats a different story.
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Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
GABarrie
Call me Gordon
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#22
never had an issue with T Bone items :/ that's strange though...

as for Bugera... well, let's not blame that on Thomann, eh?
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#23
DSL is surprisingly versatile with this littel extra buttons on top of the two channels, with a LOT of gain on tap (i think it easily does metal....you have slash no problem).

DSLs are good amp IMO.

some engaters would have you covered. renegade yes. tweaker 88 yes, tweaker 40, pretty much. i play GnR stuff on it, i do have a pedal board.

i might want an extra boost / OD to do slash on the tweaker 40. it pumps out a decent amount of gain by itself.

i actually nailed an incubus "wish you were here" chorus tone last night. far for metal, but i was surprised how heavy hitting and exactly like incubus is sounded.
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I'm really not looking for a gainy metal tone, so I'll have to go and see how the DSL's cleans hold up.
Gear:

Gibson 2005 Les Paul Standard
Fender Road Worn Strat w/ Noiseless pickups
Marshall JCM 2000 401C
Marshall Vintage Modern 2266
Marshall 1960A cab (Dave Hill from Slade's old cab)
Ibanez TS9DX
EHX Little Big Muff
Freshman Acoustic
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Quote by Addonexus408
Look into the Egnater Tweeker 40 combo might be right up your ally, also check out a Line 6 DT-25. The DT-25 can pretty much cover all the tones you want and more. Look up some of the demos on youtube or try it out if you get the chance. I had a chance to play one a couple of months ago and i loved it, insane amount of versatility.

inb4 Line 6 hate

+1, the DT50 is a great amp.

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Would probably be looking at Egnater for that budget. renegade/Tourmaster would be sweet, and very versatile.
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Fender Super Sonic
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HT40

off the top of my head that's what I thought. Some have already been suggested.
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£750 would get you a MKIV i would imagine, but i am not sure of what the exchange rates are. i paid $875 for a MKIV long head in really good shape and fresh tubes. i realize that overseas prices are different.

but if you can i would go for one.
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