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MarkGraves98
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Hey guys i am gonna start of by saying i am new to this forum i am a 14 yyear old guitarist drummer vocalist and producer and thats about all you need to know! anyway i am just writting a song and its coming up for the solo but i aint sure what notes to use because i mainly play in D tuning but in C (CGCFAD) so it would be really useful if someone could help me with where to solo around ! Thanks
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Depends on the key of the song. And 'where' to solo doesn't really make any sense at all. The notes for all scales and keys are found throughout the fretboard, so you can solo anywhere on the fretboard one you learn the key, the notes of the scale, and the notes of the fretboard.
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Say if i am in C which i am would i play the C natural minor scale starting on the 8th fret and playing same as i would in standard? sorry my theory aint that good
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Quote by MarkGraves98
Say if i am in C which i am would i play the C natural minor scale starting on the 8th fret and playing same as i would in standard? sorry my theory aint that good

Sorry mate, but that doesn't make any sense. I can't follow your line of logic at all.
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Quote by MarkGraves98
Say if i am in C which i am would i play the C natural minor scale starting on the 8th fret and playing same as i would in standard? sorry my theory aint that good

No. If you're in C standard, then C on the 6th string is at the 12th fret. You would be playing an A minor scale if you started at the 8th like that.
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Quote by MarkGraves98
Say if i am in C which i am would i play the C natural minor scale starting on the 8th fret and playing same as i would in standard? sorry my theory aint that good


If you are in the Key of C then playing the notes in that key is the safest bet. Do you know what those notes are?

The C on the lowest 3 strings in Drop C are the 6th and 4th strings open, the 12th fret on the 6th and 4th strings, and on the 5th and 17th frets of the 5th string. If you know the notes of the scale and how the alphabet works then you can find the rest on the fretboard.
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Hey guys i am gonna start of by saying i am new to this forum i am a 14 yyear old guitarist drummer vocalist and producer and thats about all you need to know!


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MarkGraves98
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Thanks guys my actual guitar playing is up to grade 8 says my teacher but my theory not so much
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Are all of the instruments in the same tuning? I mean, do you have a guitar playing in the background? Which chords does it play? It really doesn't matter in which tuning you are, the fingerings are the same. Play as if you were in standard. Use your ears and don't just play random melodies. You should really hear if you are playing the wrong notes.
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Yeah, TS. You're the fucking best.
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MarkGraves98
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I want to hear some of TS's stuff.


What so bad about it?
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Come ya'll. Give the kid a break.

If all of your instruments are in the same tuning (C standard), you would start the C natural minor from from 12 on the 6th string, or, fret 7 on the 5th string.
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Quote by Angusman60
Come ya'll. Give the kid a break.

If all of your instruments are in the same tuning (C standard), you would start the C natural minor from from 12 on the 6th string, or, fret 7 on the 5th string.

Thanks dude i will put a link on when ive finished the song thanks
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Quote by Angusman60
Come ya'll. Give the kid a break.

If all of your instruments are in the same tuning (C standard), you would start the C natural minor from from 12 on the 6th string, or, fret 5 on the 5th string.
Fixed. He's in drop C, not C standard.
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^^ My bad. I didn't read close enough. Thanks for the correction.
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If you're really grade 8 with that level of understanding you must be a prodigy of some sort. If you learn a little theory you'll be unstoppable!
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so it would be really useful if someone could help me with where to solo around ! Thanks l


This should be simple. You're playing in drop C tuning in which the whole purpose is to take advantage of the low C string. I am going to assume that you're into metal. Metal likes minor.

Step 1 - Play in C Minor
Step 2 - Learn the SOUND of the minor scales.
Step 3 - Listen
Step 4 - Play
Step 5 ???
Step 6 - Results

Music doesn't sound different to our ears compared to yours. It should be obvious whether it's the note choices that sounds like crap or it's just your playing.

You must have both achieve mastery in both in order to sound audible.
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MarkGraves98
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how exactly do you label yourself a "producer" when you cannot hit notes on your guitar and decide whether or not they sound good


I produce songs i put music together on programing software not every producer knows theory.
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I produce songs i put music together on programing software not every producer knows theory.

Yeah, but you should know what sounds good. That doesn't need theory, that needs ears. If a note sounds out of place, don't play it.
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I produce songs i put music together on programing software not every producer knows theory.

But then that makes most, if not all of us 'producers'. However that's not how it works, people who are actually producers work very hard for long time to learn and hone their craft.
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MarkGraves98
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ok sorry if my first post was misleading what i ment was instead of going into a studio and record tracks i record them in my bedroom lol
i could really do with some opinions for the first two songs but not sure if i can post link on here yet
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I don't think you are any of those things, being in drop C doesn't mean your song is necessarily in C, it's whatever the key of the song is.
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I don't think you are any of those things, being in drop C doesn't mean your song is necessarily in C, it's whatever the key of the song is.

any of what things?
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Guitarist, drummer, vocalist, producer. Not to offend, but you called drop C, D but in C. You can't really call yourself a drummer if you program your drums...
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Guitarist, drummer, vocalist, producer. Not to offend, but you called drop C, D but in C. You can't really call yourself a drummer if you program your drums...

? i do play drums but i aint good enough to play that kind of beat yet
and when did i call C, D?
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? i do play drums but i aint good enough to play that kind of beat yet
and when did i call C, D?


ahhhh i know what you meen by that no i was on about a different track when i was talking about C
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Quote by MarkGraves98
i mainly play in D tuning but in C (CGCFAD)


That's drop C.
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MarkGraves98
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i mainly play in D tuning but in C (CGCFAD) QUOTE]

No i ment i mainly play in D but felt like a change so i did a song in C
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you did a song in the tuning CGCFAD?
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you did a song in the tuning CGCFAD?

Yes i was basicly saying all my other songs are in D but the one i am working on now is in C therefore i didnt know much about what scales to use sorry for the confusion
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heres my second song my singing aint great but i am more of a screamo guy also i programmed the drums cos i couldnt play the beats lol

https://soundcloud.com/mark-sevenfold-howells/until-the-end

That's really cool, dude!
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oh my god hahahahhaahhahaha this sounds like motionless in white playing a gig in the star wars trash compactor hahahahhahhahhha
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So you're writing a song with a tuning of CGCFAD? And you want to know were to solo, correct?
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So you're writing a song with a tuning of CGCFAD? And you want to know were to solo, correct?

Yes but now i know
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