(Lord it's hard to be happy when you're not) Using the Metric System

Poll: Switch to metric?
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daytripper75
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#1
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Should the US switch to the metric system? I guess this question is mostly for people living in the States, because I'm assuming people that already use it would say yes.


So, should we switch? Make the metric system the standard? I think it makes sense. Yeah, it's going to take some getting used to. That's obvious. In the long run, I think it would be worth it. Much simpler to use, and the rest (well most) of the world uses it.


We should keep MPH though. Nobody wants to measure speed in kilometers per hour. That's just for people that want to pretend they're going fast by saying that their car can go 160, when really it's just slow.


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Our measurements are easy enough to convert because we're not stupid like Europeans and so we can handle numbers that aren't multiples of 10 in our everyday lives.
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Should go metric.

I'm unusual in the UK, I use metric for measurement, as I'm an engineer. But when it comes to weight and speed, I use imperial.

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no, because we aren't eurofags
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Have to switch eventually, you're living in the past.
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I think they should start teaching kids metric, and labels, instructions, gauges, etc. should have both for the next 100 years to make sure all the imperial users are dead.
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Stop being so stubborn, English speaking weirdos. If you're not driving on the wrong side of the road or living on a continent where everything is actively trying to kill you, you're going on and on about how you "don't want to have to learn a new system" that's so simple it boggles my mind you haven't internalised it already.
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Stop being so stubborn, English speaking weirdos. If you're not driving on the wrong side of the road or living on a continent where everything is actively trying to kill you, you're going on and on about how you "don't want to have to learn a new system" that's so simple it boggles my mind you haven't internalised it already.



That last bit's a very good point though. I know both, it's useful. How can you not already know the metric system
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Question for the brits

Do you use both systems? Because I always thought you just used the metric system but then on Top Gear and stuff they say "miles" and "feet"

EDIT:
^Well I guess that answers it


EDIT2: I learned the metric system in school. It's not like we don't know it
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#15
I can use both for anything, but I have to admit that metric makes more sense. Actually, I use imperial for linear measurement most of the time because of construction stuff. Studs are pretty easy to figure out at 16 inches.

It would make more sense if a foot was 16 inches and a mile was 4,096 feet; it's not that hard to do mental calculations around those numbers because they are both powers of two. 256 feet would be a mile, and that's a perfectly square number. How the hell did they come up with 5,280?

I also think the world should just switch over to hexadecimal instead of this 10 digit system for a variety of reasons. Powers of two and 16 are just easier to work with, and it would save lots of time and paper in the long run. Especially now that we live in a computer age, I think we should make the switch.
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Stop being so stubborn, English speaking weirdos. If you're not driving on the wrong side of the road or living on a continent where everything is actively trying to kill you, you're going on and on about how you "don't want to have to learn a new system" that's so simple it boggles my mind you haven't internalised it already.

It's not the conversions that are hard to internalize, pretty much everyone knows that a kilometer is 1000 meters. If someone were to say to me that they drove 365 kilometers to get somewhere I'd have no idea how far that really was. Or if someone described their height in centimeters versus feet and inches.
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#17
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Question for the brits

Do you use both systems? Because I always thought you just used the metric system but then on Top Gear and stuff they say "miles" and "feet"

Miles are used more than KM. For the most part we use both though.

I'm 5' 7 or smth. Not sure about my metric height, 168cm or smth. We tend to use both, but it really depends what we're doing.
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We should keep MPH though. Nobody wants to measure speed in kilometers per hour. That's just for people that want to pretend they're going fast by saying that their car can go 160, when really it's just slow. .

I don't consider 120km/h on the QEW to be going fast, the speed limit is 100km/h. It just seems that way because you're used to a lower number. If you use km/h for a while, a higher number doesn't seem faster. Obviously 60mph is the same speed as 100/kmh. No one says "GUYS I WAS GOING SO FAST LIKE 100KM/H"
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theogonia777
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#19
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It's not the conversions that are hard to internalize, pretty much everyone knows that a kilometer is 1000 meters. If someone were to say to me that they drove 365 kilometers to get somewhere I'd have no idea how far that really was. Or if someone described their height in centimeters versus feet and inches.


Exactly. If you say someone is 7'2", I know that he would be one tall son of a bitch. If you said that someone was 1.89 meters, is that short or tall or what? And let's say that I'm trying to put a rim and backboard up on my garage. It's supposed to be 10 feet tall. But what if I only have a metric measuring tool? Is 10 feet 3 meters? 4 meters? It's just not going to be the right height no matter what I do. What if some girl asks me how long my weenie is? I don't want to tell her the wrong number in cms. And so on.
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We've really half arsed the metric system in the UK.

For weight I'll use metric, unless it's the weight of a person when I'll use imperial.
For liquids I'll use metric except for milk and beer.
For length I'll use imperial for anything over a metre and metric for anything less.
Fuel is priced by the litre, but usually I see fuel efficiency in Miles per Gallon.
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Brits don't actually fully use metric. We're in a horrible stalemate. We measure fuel economy in MPG, yet we buy our fuel in litres.

We measure distances by road in miles, height in feet and inches, weight (or mass if you want to be pedantic) in stones and pounds (why on earth the Yanks don't use the larger unit of measurement as standard is beyond me, you don't measure yourself in inches or stretches of motorway/highway in yards, do you?).

Yet, despite all this we still buy our retail products metricated. Bottles of drink in litres, food in grams and kilos.

I think we need to just fully metricate and get it over and done with. The sooner it happens, the sooner everyone can be up to speed. Imperial measurements are ridiculous, outdated and more awkward than there metric counterparts. Why make it harder? Literally, an objectively better system has been invented. Use it.
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#22
It really makes very little difference. You might save yourself from having to put a few zeros into a calculator now and then. Oh well. It's not like the constants and unit conversions in metric are any nicer to look at than imperial ones.

Although someone will have to explain to me what the hell a slug is... damn pounds-force and pounds-mass. Then there's the ib-mol...

Okay make the switch.
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#23
I mean, we do learn it here. At least I did in school. The problem is that it isn't generally used, and I can't really visualize the actual measurements. Like, I couldn't look at a person and guess their height in metric, because I can't really visualize the measurements.
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(why on earth the Yanks don't use the larger unit of measurement as standard is beyond me, you don't measure yourself in inches or stretches of motorway/highway in yards, do you?).

Wait, are you asking why we do that, or saying we do that?

Because I've never heard anyone say how many inches tall they are. It's always like 5'10". Not 70"
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Isn't a meter about the same as a yard? So at least that would be easy to memorize.
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Wait, are you asking why we do that, or saying we do that?

Because I've never heard anyone say how many inches tall they are. It's always like 5'10". Not 70"

He's talking about stone and pounds.

You guys are all like "yo im 140lb" when we're all like "Hey baby, I'ma inform you of my 10 stone build".
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Wait, are you asking why we do that, or saying we do that?

Because I've never heard anyone say how many inches tall they are. It's always like 5'10". Not 70"


He was talking about weight. You measure peoples weight in lbs, whilst we use stone, which is 14 lbs.

So instead of saying 121lbs I'd say I weigh 8st 9lbs. *

He was using the distance thing as an analogy.


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Quote by WCPhils
Wait, are you asking why we do that, or saying we do that?

Because I've never heard anyone say how many inches tall they are. It's always like 5'10". Not 70"


He was asking why you don't use stones. The comparison he made was that just using pounds and not using stones is like quoting your height in inches rather than feet and inches.

EDIT: Ninja'd, twice. Heh.

But yeah, like others have said, over here in the UK we're a bit half and half. Most official measurements are always given in metric. The major exception is distances on roadsigns and speed limits which still use miles.

In general, people here have a habit of thinking in imperial units most of the time. Like some of you guys have said, I think most people are still used to figuring, say, somebody's height in feet and inches and so they've got a much better sense of what the figures actually mean. Quote a figure in metres and they won't have such a good idea of how tall that actually is.

But I like to think that it's gradually changing so that the old imperial units will fall by the wayside in time.
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**** europoors and their childproof system. I prefer the quirky one with some history. Why don't we get rid of all superlative words too, and just use doubleplusgood and horseshit like that.

Cultureless eurobutts
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Only measurement that bothers me is fahrenheit, it seems so random. I'd love to see it disappear.
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Quote by Dreadnought
**** europoors and their childproof system. I prefer the quirky one with some history. Why don't we get rid of all superlative words too, and just use doubleplusgood and horseshit like that.

Cultureless eurobutts


The metric system is older than both the Imperial system and United States customary units
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With people still being measured with stones in europe, I say the US is fine.
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Quote by Dynamight
Isn't a meter about the same as a yard? So at least that would be easy to memorize.


Close, meter is 3.3ft (yard 3ft)


I thought we should have switched when there was the push back in the 70's when I was in school.

It won't happen because of (mainly) the apathetic and the lazy. Which is most of the population.

Then there is the outright crazy who honestly think that the metric system is tied to the "New World Order" conspiracy. Getting the world in a standard system of measurement being a step towards it. (I really wish I was joking about that...)
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#38
Quote by axe_thrasher
Brits don't actually fully use metric. We're in a horrible stalemate. We measure fuel economy in MPG, yet we buy our fuel in litres.

We measure distances by road in miles, height in feet and inches, weight (or mass if you want to be pedantic) in stones and pounds (why on earth the Yanks don't use the larger unit of measurement as standard is beyond me, you don't measure yourself in inches or stretches of motorway/highway in yards, do you?).

Yet, despite all this we still buy our retail products metricated. Bottles of drink in litres, food in grams and kilos.

I think we need to just fully metricate and get it over and done with. The sooner it happens, the sooner everyone can be up to speed. Imperial measurements are ridiculous, outdated and more awkward than there metric counterparts. Why make it harder? Literally, an objectively better system has been invented. Use it.


Yeah ... I've been doing my bit to help the conversion to metric by educating plumbers and gas engineers.

At school in the 70s we were taught both systems. I always preferred metric. We used to laugh at all that "there are three and a half gills in a quart" Imperial garbage.

America now looks laughable with its adherence to that system. ****ing Fahrenheit? It won't continue as a superpower for much longer. Plus, wasn't it mixing up units that destroyed that Mars lander thing a few years ago? I can't believe scientists are still using feet and pounds. When I see it on Mythbusters I feel almost embarrassed.
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#39
I personally can't get my head around imperial for weight, distance or volume. Stones and lbs irritate me cause I can't judge them at all. Distance is a bit different because I can't judge a mile or kilometer as I don't drive or anything but I can handle metres and feet. This is all down to never really encountering imperial for measurements while growing up except in obscure recipes. Like I know pints/cups only because we would always make rice using an imperial based recipe.

I'm curious as to where people in UK/EU under 30 are picking it up from as schooling and standard measurements in retail only ever display metric.
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The metric system is older than both the Imperial system and United States customary units



I said HISTORY nigga, not age. Get your stupid smug smiley face out of here
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