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mardigian
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Looking for a new guitar that comes stock with an official floyd rose trem.

Here's the thing, I don't want it to have active pickups in it, and seemingly 99% of the guitars I come across that have an OFR also have EMG's installed.

Can anyone give me some suggestions?
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USA Jacksons.

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or just get the one you like with EMGs, sell the EMGs, and buy better pickups.
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B.C. Rich Mockingbird ST?

EDIT: Never mind, that now comes with a licensed Floyd.
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evh wolfgang? or whatever guitar in that design ernie ball makes. schecter synyster custom has OFR
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ESP Horizon FRII, it's a truly awesome guitar and you can get it with EITHER SD (passive) or EMG (active) pups.
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Quote by aaroncaper
or whatever guitar in that design ernie ball makes. schecter synyster custom has OFR


The EBMM Axis uses an EBMM Licensed Trem and the Schecter Synyter Custom uses a FR1000 (which is NOT an OFR).

But yes, USA EVH Wolfgangs (and I think the Peavey Wolfgangs) come with OFRs
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Charvel san dimas? used ones are pretty good MIJ or MIA the new ones they re-introduced this year are Mexican so you could wait for them?
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they're frt-x000s, though. granted he didn't make clear if he was ok with the frt-x000, but they're not schaller-made OFRs, either.
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Late 80's Kramer Focus and American series. All came with original W. German OFR's and the Americans all had SD pickups. All MIJ and most can be had for less than 500 with OHSC.
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Quote by Dave_Mc
they're frt-x000s, though. granted he didn't make clear if he was ok with the frt-x000, but they're not schaller-made OFRs, either.


I hear OFR and I assume German-made Floyds, or Schaller licensed, though not many come with that.
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When you order a Carvin, you can add an OFR.
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Rasmus by Suhr? They are/were Gotoh units.
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Quote by Mister A.J.
When you order a Carvin, you can add an OFR.

Nope, those are licensed.
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Thank you for the responses, fellow members.

I'll definitely look into the Jackson and ESP brands. I owned an ESP years ago, a cheap little V, but it rocked.

Carvin make great guitars, but their price is quite steep.

Again, thank you. And when I say OFR, I generally refer to the german manufactured ones. Basically, I want the best floyd rose they make.
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Looked at the Jacksons, ridiculous price tags as always.

ESP, couldn't find any without EMG pickups.

I'm looking at the BC Rich Zoltan ASM model. I don't usually care for guitars that are musicians "custom" models, but it would meet all my needs. OFR, Rockfield Mafia pups, and I like the natural wood finish.

Anyone have any experience with these, or other higher end BC Rich guitars? I l
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How much you looking at spending?
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Quote by mardigian
Looked at the Jacksons, ridiculous price tags as always.

ESP, couldn't find any without EMG pickups.

I'm looking at the BC Rich Zoltan ASM model. I don't usually care for guitars that are musicians "custom" models, but it would meet all my needs. OFR, Rockfield Mafia pups, and I like the natural wood finish.

Anyone have any experience with these, or other higher end BC Rich guitars? I l


I'm pretty sure (positive) the Zoltan is a FR-X000 as well. To sum it up pretty much any mass produced guitar made nowadays $2,500usd and below have the Korean FR and not the German. The Korean is the new OEM OFR. They mostly advertise them as a Floyd Rose Original. As Tupac would say "That's just the way it is"
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Quote by mardigian
Looked at the Jacksons, ridiculous price tags as always.

ESP, couldn't find any without EMG pickups.

I'm looking at the BC Rich Zoltan ASM model. I don't usually care for guitars that are musicians "custom" models, but it would meet all my needs. OFR, Rockfield Mafia pups, and I like the natural wood finish.

Anyone have any experience with these, or other higher end BC Rich guitars? I l



http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/jackson-sl2h-custom-usa-guitar

$2400 is ridiculous...? For a top of the line, hand built guitar????? And you can find the on Ebay and Guitar Center used ALL DAY for like $1600
http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-JACKSON-WC-SL2H-USA-SOLOIST-MET-BLK-108541866-i2912414.gc

And some people consider Ibanez Edge trems better than Floyds, so they might be worth considering. Maybe.
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I would say that for what you want to spend and what features you're expecting that you would be better served getting a used, minty example of a top of the line US built guitar. That way you have your cake, and don't have to eat that extra $1000 you paid for a $200 bridge.
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$2400 isn't a ridiculous price for a handmade USA guitar, I agree.

I'm looking to stay under $1000, that's why I'm eyeing the Zoltan ASM from BC Rich.

In terms of quality and use, is their a distinct difference between the Korean and German floyds?
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Quote by mardigian
$2400 isn't a ridiculous price for a handmade USA guitar, I agree.

I'm looking to stay under $1000, that's why I'm eyeing the Zoltan ASM from BC Rich.

In terms of quality and use, is their a distinct difference between the Korean and German floyds?


I never noticed a real, tangible difference between them as far as sound goes. I don't own a guitar with a Korean OFR so I can't comment on durability, but most of the reviews that I've seen from guys that own both were good. Of course there are some who will swear that there is a difference, but I'd love to see them take the Pepsi challenge, so to speak.
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Did you know Floyd arose has his own line of guitars out?

http://www.floydrose.com/guitars/index.php

Also, I know some Fernandes models use Gotoh's Floyd Roses. I don't know how those compare, but...
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Quote by mardigian
$2400 isn't a ridiculous price for a handmade USA guitar, I agree.

I'm looking to stay under $1000, that's why I'm eyeing the Zoltan ASM from BC Rich.

In terms of quality and use, is their a distinct difference between the Korean and German floyds?


Under $1000????

You won't get an OFR for under $1000

The Korean Floyds use Zinc in some places. I have one on my Jackson and it worked fine until I had to retire the guitar for other reasons.
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When you order a Carvin, you can add an OFR.


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Ahem....

http://www.suhr.com/guitars/modern-satin-by-suhr/

24 Stainless Steel Frets.
German Original Floyd Rose.
Suhr Pickups.
Made in the USA.

Also, the street price is around $1900.


My experiences with Suhr, the street price for the most basic versions of the modern is about $1900. When you see all of their amazing finishes and other options, it's hard to settle for less than $2500.
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I bought a guitar that had an OFR professionally retrofitted. That method has its drawbacks, and it ain't cheap, but you can try that.
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Quote by jeleopard
Under $1000????

You won't get an OFR for under $1000

The Korean Floyds use Zinc in some places. I have one on my Jackson and it worked fine until I had to retire the guitar for other reasons.


The FR-x000's do NOT use zinc anywhere on them, you are thinking of the Floyd Rose Special's. The FR-x000's use the same metals as the German's do for the base-plate (hardened Rockwell steel), Steel saddles and a chrome plated brass sustain block. The FR Specials use a Hardened Rockwell steel base-plate and zinc saddles/sustain block.


I personally like the FR-x000's more than the Licensed Schallers and the Gotoh's. And if they are using the same metals as the German OFR's (like Floyd Rose says they do) then they should hold up great over time. But really only time will tell on that one.
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Just buy a second hand RG550 and be done with it.
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Quote by 4FunandProphet
I never noticed a real, tangible difference between them as far as sound goes. I don't own a guitar with a Korean OFR so I can't comment on durability, but most of the reviews that I've seen from guys that own both were good. Of course there are some who will swear that there is a difference, but I'd love to see them take the Pepsi challenge, so to speak.


i thought the schaller one was noticeably nicer. It's pretty hard to take a pepsi challenge since there are obvious differences between the two. just looking at the thing you can instantly tell which is which.
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New Esp Elite? dunno how much they are though?
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About the same as a used ESP.

Why not get a used ESP instead?
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Still think a used Charvel is pretty good if you can find one.
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Not under $1000, but US Masters guitars have OFRs as an option, and most models with one start in the $1500-2000 range.

Yes, the options they offer can explode your budget. I want a Hornet- their version of the SG- and options I'm considering made it go from $1700 to over $2200...and I don't want a tremolo, either.


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Just my two cents - ESP M-II - I picked up mine a few months ago. Got it used, NTB with EMG's and OFR for $1000.

Keep an eye out for used stuff in your area. I find these creeping up in my area all the time (usually with sellers trying to get about $1.25k) and you can always swap out the pups if you don't like them.

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